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Rand Paul says he wants to kill journalists. (Original Post) riqster Nov 2013 OP
Because debates are so uncivilized Blue Owl Nov 2013 #1
The Fountainhead coldbeer Nov 2013 #24
I disagree, I think he wants to kill Drale Nov 2013 #2
Yep. jsr Nov 2013 #3
Just like most Libertarians, he has the mentality and temperament of a child. nt onehandle Nov 2013 #4
Agree with this. KatyMan Nov 2013 #9
Paul strikes me as an alligator mouth with a hummingbird ass. 11 Bravo Nov 2013 #5
A fine example of the "chosen one" some wants to run for president. He should have remained Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #6
He probably stole the idea to duel with them. eom Blanks Nov 2013 #7
Did not think of that, probably could find this line somewhere, ha, thanks for the laugh. Thinkingabout Nov 2013 #18
We don't even have any functioning journalists anymore... CoffeeCat Nov 2013 #8
Perhaps he's expressing his desire to be killed BY journalists? hughee99 Nov 2013 #10
My money would be on Racael Maddow if it ever actually JEB Nov 2013 #28
And Paul doesn't seem to be good at anything else, I don't see why dueling would be his forte. hughee99 Nov 2013 #32
Like he would ever fight a duel. Ganja Ninja Nov 2013 #11
Hey! Stop maligning weasels like that!! lastlib Nov 2013 #14
this is silly stuff and it's essentially dishonest as well cali Nov 2013 #12
boiled down, he wants to have a go at shooting Rachel Maddow Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #29
Certainly sounds like he might feel like killing people. DLnyc Nov 2013 #13
I appreciate your viewpoint, but disagree in cases of violence-related speech. riqster Nov 2013 #19
I agree he should be called on implying that would like to kill a journalist. DLnyc Nov 2013 #22
"Clearly" trying to intimidate journalists? onenote Nov 2013 #30
He's trying all right. I did NOT say I thought he'd succeed. riqster Nov 2013 #33
No, he's not trying. onenote Nov 2013 #35
Maybe he is trying, maybe not. DLnyc Nov 2013 #38
oh you do, do you? cali Nov 2013 #34
Agree. It is a threat against the life of the person and should be treated as a criminal act. Coyotl Nov 2013 #15
that's just ridiculous and it's frightening to see DUers express this nonsense cali Nov 2013 #16
+1 onenote Nov 2013 #31
I'm no longer a journalist, BUT Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #17
well he can't do that on Faux, there's not a single journalist on that channel. spanone Nov 2013 #20
+1 Lizzie Poppet Nov 2013 #40
Face it. He wants their pistol empty. Spitfire of ATJ Nov 2013 #21
That the only way Paul will duel them. Of course, Paul would want to have an Uzi bluestate10 Nov 2013 #37
Female journalist RayStar Nov 2013 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #25
He'd rather have his paid thugs stomp anyone who disagrees with him. Tanuki Nov 2013 #26
Becarful what you wish for Mr. Paul. BillyRibs Nov 2013 #27
Rand Paul assumes that some of those journalists aren't crack marks people. nt bluestate10 Nov 2013 #36
Or expert swordsmen/women... Lizzie Poppet Nov 2013 #41
yup...he needs to be removed from public office! gopiscrap Nov 2013 #39

coldbeer

(306 posts)
24. The Fountainhead
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 02:36 PM
Nov 2013

This is a Ayn Rand movie.

Gary Cooper and Patricia Neal. It is about Paul Ryan and his killing the
poor people. This movie is from 1949! Ayn Rand wrote the book.
It is about an Architect (Gary Cooper) who says my way or no way. When
they built against his rules he he dynamited (blew up) the project and went
to court. Paul Ryan has watched this movie! He thinks he's Gary Cooper.
Cooper was just an actor.
This is 2013 and Paul Ryan is trying to be Gary Cooper. This movie sucks
John Wayne would never have played that role. I am not kiddding, the movie
has a moxie. Barbara Stanwych presented Mayer of MGM fame the
script in 1941 and she expected the role played by Patricia Neal. 7 years later
Stanwych is pissed.
This is a terrible movie cued on happenstance, just like the tea party,
always playing the what-if scenario.
You want to expose Paul Ryan just watch "The Fountainhead"

Drale

(7,932 posts)
2. I disagree, I think he wants to kill
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:33 PM
Nov 2013

women who speak their mind. He love journalist who make him look good.

KatyMan

(4,248 posts)
9. Agree with this.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:17 PM
Nov 2013

Not just libertarians, but conservatives in general aren't much more than teenagers intellectually. Me Me Me Mine Mine Mine Gimme
Gimme Gimme....

11 Bravo

(23,960 posts)
5. Paul strikes me as an alligator mouth with a hummingbird ass.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:40 PM
Nov 2013

He might, however, wish to hire someone else to dispatch journalists with whom he disagrees.

Thinkingabout

(30,058 posts)
6. A fine example of the "chosen one" some wants to run for president. He should have remained
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 12:54 PM
Nov 2013

Silent or maybe it wasn't any written or stated material for him to use in his defense.
Don't expect him to have original thoughts, wonder how he wrote when he was in college.

CoffeeCat

(24,411 posts)
8. We don't even have any functioning journalists anymore...
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:16 PM
Nov 2013

...so what in Rand Paul whining about?

If Rand Paul can't handle the corporate-owned reporters who don't challenge anything or investigate anything--then he really is a wimp on steroids.

What an idiot.

hughee99

(16,113 posts)
10. Perhaps he's expressing his desire to be killed BY journalists?
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:20 PM
Nov 2013

I don't see why it's assumed that Paul would win.

 

JEB

(4,748 posts)
28. My money would be on Racael Maddow if it ever actually
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 02:54 PM
Nov 2013

came to a duel. She obviously has a much cooler head under fire.

Ganja Ninja

(15,953 posts)
11. Like he would ever fight a duel.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:22 PM
Nov 2013

What a joke. Tell you what Rand why don't you take some of them out to a bar and then challenge them to a fistfight out back. Let me know how it works out for you, you little weasel.

lastlib

(23,719 posts)
14. Hey! Stop maligning weasels like that!!
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:27 PM
Nov 2013

That is highly insulting to the whole Mustelidae family!! Weasels not only fight their own fights, they have a backbone--NO comparison to Rand Paul!

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
12. this is silly stuff and it's essentially dishonest as well
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:22 PM
Nov 2013

I see this kind of shit all the time from the right wing.

Wingers are busy saying that Obama loves to kill because of a supposed comment he made that's quoted in a new book

I hate dumb dog shit like that which pours ceaselessly from this awful, awful blog.

Rand Paul is an asshole. This comment of his is assholic but it's nothing compared to the comments he's made about civil rights

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
29. boiled down, he wants to have a go at shooting Rachel Maddow
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 02:57 PM
Nov 2013

no matter what your precious "standards" are even though you completely mangled what I've posted on numerous occasions to fit your agenda, somehow you are rising to the defense of Rand.

WHATEVAHS!!!!!

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
13. Certainly sounds like he might feel like killing people.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:23 PM
Nov 2013

With all due respect, he did NOT actually say that he wanted to kill anyone. The guy is pretty pathetic, he (and/or his writers) certainly lifted a bunch of stuff straight from Wikipedia, he certainly said "if dueling were legal in Kentucky, if they keep it up, you know, it would be a duel challenge." So he implied that he would like to kill someone (or perhaps get killed by someone). But it's pretty misleading, IMHO, to say "Rand Paul says he wants to kill journalists." He just did not say that. The article headline implies he said that, but he didn't.

Perhaps this seems quibbly to you, but I think it is a poor strategy to start using sloppy language and inaccurate statements to respond to sloppy language and plagiarism. It leads, IMHO, to a sort of circular degeneration of discourse.

With all due respect.


riqster

(13,986 posts)
19. I appreciate your viewpoint, but disagree in cases of violence-related speech.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 02:10 PM
Nov 2013

He is clearly trying to intimidate journalists with his remarks, and is using "dueling" as part of that speech. He needs called on it.

Minimizing threatening speech does the recipients no favors. Those threatened face bigger risks (their lives) than do a political party or group.

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
22. I agree he should be called on implying that would like to kill a journalist.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 02:23 PM
Nov 2013

I just think the article would have made the point better by saying (accurately) "Rand Paul implies that he wants to kill journalists" as opposed to saying (inaccurately) "Rand Paul says he wants to kill journalists".

onenote

(43,404 posts)
30. "Clearly" trying to intimidate journalists?
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 02:58 PM
Nov 2013

If you know a journalist that would be intimidated by Paul's statement then you don't actually know a journalist.

riqster

(13,986 posts)
33. He's trying all right. I did NOT say I thought he'd succeed.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 03:45 PM
Nov 2013

Threats of violence are despicable, whether or not they are successful.

onenote

(43,404 posts)
35. No, he's not trying.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 03:59 PM
Nov 2013

What he's doing is feeding red meat to his followers. It's actually not in his interest to "intimidate" journalists. Its in his interest to be able to label journalists as lapdogs for those that oppose his "truth tellling" -- and playing that role for his sheeple.

DLnyc

(2,479 posts)
38. Maybe he is trying, maybe not.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 04:13 PM
Nov 2013

Last edited Mon Nov 4, 2013, 10:20 PM - Edit history (1)

I think it sounds like his handlers told him to show personal outrage about his ethics being questioned, and perhaps he latched on to the "duel" image as his idea of what intense outrage might look like. When you say he "clearly" is trying to intimidate journalists, I guess that "clarity" is kind of in the eye of the beholder. I don't find it that clear at all.

Don't get me wrong, I think the guy is a first-class asshole and I don't doubt that he is capable of threatening his critics with violence. But I think, for instance, that calling his words &quot t)hreats of violence" is a bit of a stretch. I think it is more effective to criticize these characters on what they actually say, which tends to be outrageously bad, rather than resort to statements that might seem like a stretch. IMHO.

That said, though, I think it says something about his mindset that he would come up with an image that, particularly in Kentucky, connects to a remarkably violent and bloody past. I wouldn't be surprised if he actually is fantasizing about killing his detractors. I just don't feel that he actually said he wanted to, in this particular instance.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
34. oh you do, do you?
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 03:49 PM
Nov 2013

I'm sure you'll defend this:

You'll claim the President never said any such thing or you'll say that it was taken out of context.

for the record, I think that the President probably meant it in a bitter, ironic way.

And it's beyond ridiculous to claim that he was trying to intimidate journalists with that stupid comment about dueling and YOU provide not a shred of evidence for your claim and neither does that asswipe turdo Mr. Bluntly Stupid.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/business_insider/2013/11/03/double_down_obama_said_he_s_really_good_at_killing_people.html

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
15. Agree. It is a threat against the life of the person and should be treated as a criminal act.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:30 PM
Nov 2013

Plus, it can be seen as encouraging others to commit violence against a person.

It is an intolerable idiocy from an idiot that does not deserve our tolerance of his impunity.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
16. that's just ridiculous and it's frightening to see DUers express this nonsense
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:33 PM
Nov 2013

good fucking grief. It wasn't a threat against anyone. It was a stupid remark. And it's the kind of remark nearly all of us have uttered at one time or another.

And no, I'm defending Paul. I'm defending reason and the Constitution.

Gad.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
17. I'm no longer a journalist, BUT
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 01:35 PM
Nov 2013

I'll call his punk-ass bluff all day, everyday...

If any of Paul's people are reading this, please register for an account and send me a PM proposing a T/D/P...

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
37. That the only way Paul will duel them. Of course, Paul would want to have an Uzi
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 04:05 PM
Nov 2013

as his weapon of choice, fully loaded with extended clip. What a pathetic asshole Rand Paul is.

RayStar

(417 posts)
23. Female journalist
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 02:35 PM
Nov 2013

He just wants to duel with a extremely intelligent journalist who make him look ever dumb. It was FUNNY!

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