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CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:37 PM Nov 2013

What's up with this love of dueling?

I remember Zell Miller (on live TV even) challenging Chris Matthews to a duel.

Now Rand Paul is all full of regret because he can't challenge (Rachel, perhaps) to a duel.

is wrong with these people?

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What's up with this love of dueling? (Original Post) CatWoman Nov 2013 OP
They lack proper communication skills and can only retort with violence NightWatcher Nov 2013 #1
My name is Randigo Montoya... CJCRANE Nov 2013 #2
little men speaking big talk they know beachbum bob Nov 2013 #3
They think they're channeling Aaron Burr???? Manifestor_of_Light Nov 2013 #4
My Opinion atreides1 Nov 2013 #5
There is a history to it quinnox Nov 2013 #6
It's an honorable way of settling disputes. PeteSelman Nov 2013 #7
Ding Ding we have a winner! Because he's a total wuss a close second....nt okaawhatever Nov 2013 #16
Duel---what is this duel you talk about? trumad Nov 2013 #8
The little head's doing the thinking for the big one. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2013 #9
Simpletons like simple solutions. FSogol Nov 2013 #10
And when did men start challenging women to duels? Is that a good sign Coyotl Nov 2013 #11
It's to cement Paul's "patriotic" image meanit Nov 2013 #12
Oh it's the"Hold me back!" mentality. nolabear Nov 2013 #13
The first Democratic President killed a man in a duel. FarCenter Nov 2013 #14
Did Rand Paul take a dueling glove and slap it across Rachel Maddow's face? Vashta Nerada Nov 2013 #15
A few dogwhistle tweets for the base: Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #17
Nothing, just some really big egos on some really small minded men. Rex Nov 2013 #18
Rachel would totally take him out. I read somewhere she met her girlfriend at a NRA women's day okaawhatever Nov 2013 #19
+1 ! N/T GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #22
They know that dueling is illegal, so it is safe to make the challenge. GreenStormCloud Nov 2013 #20
My '64 Super Sport has duals, I love the sound. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2013 #21
They want to go back to the 1800s and therefore use 1800 era terms. shraby Nov 2013 #23
HAHAHAHAHAHA CatWoman Nov 2013 #24

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. They lack proper communication skills and can only retort with violence
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:38 PM
Nov 2013

or monosyllabic grunts when legitimately criticized.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
3. little men speaking big talk they know
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:42 PM
Nov 2013

can't be done. If I was maddow, I would challenge him on something like a face to face debate on anything. 99% guarantee he would run away from it. Just like hannity running from Big Ed.

 

Manifestor_of_Light

(21,046 posts)
4. They think they're channeling Aaron Burr????
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:42 PM
Nov 2013

I've got the novel "Burr" by Gore Vidal. It's pretty good.

is right.

atreides1

(16,076 posts)
5. My Opinion
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:43 PM
Nov 2013

Both Miller and Paul only talk big, because they know it's illegal!

I believe that if it was a viable way to "solve" a problem, both of them would be singing another tune.

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
6. There is a history to it
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:43 PM
Nov 2013

They used to settle debts of honor by dueling at one time. Yea, it is macho bullshit, but it did happen back then.

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
7. It's an honorable way of settling disputes.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:51 PM
Nov 2013

These guys are enamored of that whole Victorian age. It reflects their view on all sorts of issues.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
11. And when did men start challenging women to duels? Is that a good sign
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:56 PM
Nov 2013

that the rednecks are succumbing to women's liberation?

meanit

(455 posts)
12. It's to cement Paul's "patriotic" image
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:57 PM
Nov 2013

with his delusional, drooling idiot followers. Like he's some kind of "Aaron Burr" or some shit like that.
He'll probably start running around in a white wig soon. What an asshole.

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
13. Oh it's the"Hold me back!" mentality.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:57 PM
Nov 2013

"If I wasn't such a gentleman...if you weren't smaller/younger/a girl...if it wasn't illegal..." In other words I'm a blowhard.

How about a verbal duel, Sparky? She could beat you with one lip tied behind her back.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
14. The first Democratic President killed a man in a duel.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:58 PM
Nov 2013
The controversy surrounding their marriage remained a sore point for Jackson, who deeply resented attacks on his wife’s honor. By May 1806, Charles Dickinson had published an attack on Jackson in the local newspaper, and it resulted in a written challenge from Jackson to a duel. Since Dickinson was considered an expert shot, Jackson determined it would be best to let Dickinson turn and fire first, hoping that his aim might be spoiled in his quickness; Jackson would wait and take careful aim at Dickinson. Dickinson did fire first, hitting Jackson in the chest. Under the rules of dueling, Dickinson had to remain still as Jackson took aim and shot and killed him. However, the bullet that struck Jackson was so close to his heart that it could never be safely removed. Jackson's behavior in the duel outraged men of honor in Tennessee, who called it a brutal, cold-blooded killing and saddled Jackson with a reputation as a fearful, violent, vengeful man. He became a social outcast.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Andrew_Jackson

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
15. Did Rand Paul take a dueling glove and slap it across Rachel Maddow's face?
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 05:59 PM
Nov 2013

It's not a duel until that happens.

To answer your question, I have no idea what's with the love of dueling.

Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
17. A few dogwhistle tweets for the base:
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 06:01 PM
Nov 2013

1. Harkens back to a time when America "still did things the right way"

2. Macho bravado (even though it's SO fake, they think this is what being a man is all about)

3. The age-old American tradition of guns, and solving nonviolent disputes with guns

4. All republicans think liberals need to be shot anyways..

okaawhatever

(9,461 posts)
19. Rachel would totally take him out. I read somewhere she met her girlfriend at a NRA women's day
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 06:05 PM
Nov 2013

event. Her father was military so she may have learned young how to handle a weapon, especially if he had them in the house.


I say the challenge can be taken up with a life-like target depicting their likeness. I'd love to see it. Rachel could mop the floor with him but literally and figuratively.

GreenStormCloud

(12,072 posts)
20. They know that dueling is illegal, so it is safe to make the challenge.
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 06:08 PM
Nov 2013

If the Code Duello were brought back, they would shut up in a hurry.

CatWoman

(79,301 posts)
24. HAHAHAHAHAHA
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 08:13 PM
Nov 2013

Tweety just played the clip of Miller challenging him and says Rand Paul even plagiarized Zell

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