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Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) has been accused of plagiarising Wikipedia and other sources and the evidence has started disappearing from his official Senate website.
MSNBC Rachel Maddow recently noticed that Paul had taken the exact language from several Wikipedia pages and used it in several of his speeches without proper attribution. And over the weekend, BuzzFeeds Andrew Kaczynski found that Paul had copied 1,318 words from a 2003 case study by the Heritage Foundation without making it clear that he had not authored the material.
On Monday, Kaczynski pointed out that some of those speech transcripts had been scrubbed from Pauls Senate web page.
In the case of a Feb. 6 speech to the Heritage Foundation, Pauls current page only contains a video, but Google cache shows that the page recently also had the entire transcript.
BuzzFeed found at least three other pages which had transcripts deleted.
Speaking to ABCs George Stephanopoulos on Sunday, Paul admitted that he had made mistakes in citing sources but lashed out at his critics, who he called hacks and haters.
I will admit, sometimes we havent footnoted things properly, the Kentucky Republican said. Ive written scientific papers. I know how to footnote things. But weve never footnoted speeches. And if thats the standard Im going to be held to, yes, we will change and we will footnote things.
But the difference is, I take it as an insult and I will not lie down and say people can call me dishonest, misleading or misrepresenting, he added. And like I say, if, you know, if dueling were legal in Kentucky, if they keep it up, you know, it would be a duel challenge. But I cant do that, because I cant hold office in Kentucky then.
I think Im being unfairly targeted by a bunch of hacks and haters. And Im just not going to put up with people casting aspersions on my character.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/04/rand-paul-caught-scrubbing-transcripts-from-website-after-plagiarism-charges/
Scuba
(53,475 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Plagiarism is plagiarism - no excuses you entitled prick.
Cali_Democrat
(30,439 posts)louis-t
(23,297 posts)Oh.......
Old Codger
(4,205 posts)I would cast cast a lot of things on his character if he had one...
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:18 AM - Edit history (1)
Loved that Bible you wrote, too.
The Jefferson Bible: The Life and Morals of Jesus of Nazareth
...Thomas Jefferson believed that the ethical system of Jesus was the finest the world has ever seen. In compiling what has come to be called "The Jefferson Bible," he sought to separate those ethical teachings from the religious dogma and other supernatural elements that are intermixed in the account provided by the four Gospels. He presented these teachings, along with the essential events of the life of Jesus, in one continuous narrative.
http://www.angelfire.com/co/JeffersonBible/
...In 1895, the National Museum published Thomas Jefferson's Bible based on an edition provided by his grandson, Thomas Jefferson Randolph. Beginning in 1904 and lasting through the 1950's, every new member of Congress received a personal copy of the Jefferson Bible. The influence of Thomas Jefferson and the Bible version he drafted exists on both sides of the political spectrum today. Libertarians might draw on the independence of Jefferson's views from the oppressive theocratic monarchies of the time, while liberals can also observe the secularism apparent in his work...
http://aboutthomasjefferson.com/jefferson-bible/211/
Jefferson said on slavery, and it is reportedly written at the Jefferson Memorial:
God who gave us life gave us liberty. Can the liberties of a nation be secure when we have removed a conviction that these liberties are the gift of God?
Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just, that his justice cannot sleep forever.
Commerce between master and slave is despotism.
Nothing is more certainly written in the book of fate than that these people are to be free.
gopiscrap
(23,765 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)So yes, he did write scientific papers. But he wasn't good enough to become board certified, so what's a total asshole to do? Just make up your own board out of thin air.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)http://www.11points.com/Books/11_Eye-Opening_Highlights_From_a_Creationist_Science_Textbook
The Idiocracy won't build itself, you know. But with the help of Rand and his ilk writing 'scientific papers' for the youth of America, we're galloping on the road to it now.
Carl Sagan wrote The Demon Haunted World in 1996 as a personal statement, reflecting my love affair with science. But theres a second reason:
Science is more than a body of knowledge; it is a way of thinking. I have a foreboding of an America in my childrens or grandchildrens time when the United States is a service and information economy; when nearly all the key manufacturing industries have slipped away to other countries; when awesome technological powers are in the hands of a very few, and no one representing the public interest can even grasp the issues; when the people have lost the ability to set their own agendas or knowledgeably question those in authority; when, clutching our crystals and nervously consulting our horoscopes, our critical faculties in decline, unable to distinguish between what feels good and whats true, we slide, almost without noticing, back into superstition and darkness...
It has come to pass, even worse than he wrote:
The Demon-Haunted World by Carl Sagan - a review
Carl Sagan may have believed in extraterrestrials, but he knew that belief is meaningless without testable evidence...
Oh, and the dumbing down of America was "most evident in the slow decay of substantive content in the enormously influential media, the 30-second soundbites (now down to 10 seconds or less), lowest common denominator programming, credulous presentations on pseudoscience and superstition, but especially a kind of celebration of ignorance." And that was before Rupert Murdoch launched the Fox News channel...
Nor is he afraid of going back to the things that matter, arguing in the next essay that Thomas Jefferson "believed that the habit of scepticism is an essential prerequisite for responsible citizenship. He argued that the cost of education is trivial compared to the cost of ignorance, of leaving government to the wolves..."
Meanwhile, according to the most recent New York Review of Books, a Texas legislator is quoted offering this reasoned argument on the state's responsibility for education: "Where did this idea come from that everybody deserves free education, free medical care, free whatever? It comes from Moscow, from Russia. It comes straight out of the pit of hell."
Are we in such a very different world?
http://www.theguardian.com/science/2012/jul/20/demon-haunted-world-carl-sagan-review
Unrepentant Fenian
(1,078 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,240 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)Is he going to duel whoever is scrubbing the website, too?
shraby
(21,946 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Some things are, some are not.
364 Billion web pages saved over time.
http://archive.org/web/web.php
NOTE the Save Page Now feature!!
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)It is also a form of admission to go in later and change them.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)but nice try
blackspade
(10,056 posts)He is one of these guys who just skates through life on the backs of others.
MarianJack
(10,237 posts)What a knob!
PEACE!
Botany
(70,581 posts)If in the course of giving a speech one can attribute another person's work and
or words so as to give the person who did the work credit for said work but you
can't give footnotes ..... now if you have a transcript of that speech you can have
it with footnotes but then you must also attribute the author of the work when you
are giving the speech too.
Attribution is for when you are speaking and footnotes are for when you are writing.
I will admit, sometimes we havent footnoted things properly, the Kentucky Republican said.
Ive written scientific papers. I know how to footnote things. But weve never footnoted speeches.
And if thats the standard Im going to be held to, yes, we will change and we will footnote things.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)He says you stole his hair.
surrealAmerican
(11,364 posts)... otherwise the actual author(s) could sue for copyright violations.
Dopers_Greed
(2,640 posts)-Plagiarized others' material for speeches and op-eds
-Challenged people who caught this to a duel
-Scrubbed transcripts
barbtries
(28,811 posts)of condoleeza rice saying just don't impugn my integrity. What integrity!? What fucking character?!
Myrina
(12,296 posts)Bwaaahahahahahahahahahahahaaaa
salimbag
(173 posts)I just asked the copy and paste boy for a list of his "scientific papers" on Facebook. Curious if there will be any response.
LibGranny
(711 posts)own speeches, books, etc. He probably began plagiarizing in college since it seems to come so easily to him!
JimboBillyBubbaBob
(1,389 posts)...put up with it."
Oh yeah!!??
What are you going to do about it?
A fistfight, more name calling, kick dirt on them during recess?
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!! Big Baby...
arthritisR_US
(7,291 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)DeSwiss
(27,137 posts)JEFF9K
(1,935 posts)... In true conservative style, he can sound like a hawk while being a chicken.
lpbk2713
(42,766 posts)... and then weaseling out of it. What a sanctimonious POS.
Only used car dealers are probably more honorable.