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PennsylvaniaMatt

(966 posts)
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 09:09 PM Nov 2013

Have You Ever Voted To Retain A Republican Judge?

Here in PA, I'm inclined to vote YES to retaining Ronald Castille, the Chief Justice of the PA Supreme Court, mainly because he delayed Tom Corbett's Voter ID law before the 2012 election, proving he can act in a non-partisan way. As a result of this, the Tea Party is urging people to vote against him. Castille also has the support of the PA Bar Association, the AFL-CIO, and former Governor Ed Rendell.

In this case, it is a simple Yes or No vote, and party labels are not on the ballot when a person makes their choice. Voting NO does not guarantee that a Democrat will take the place on the bench.

I'm curious to hear what others think.

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Have You Ever Voted To Retain A Republican Judge? (Original Post) PennsylvaniaMatt Nov 2013 OP
Nope all republicans are scum to me gopiscrap Nov 2013 #1
What happens if the Judge doesn't win? nt bluestate10 Nov 2013 #2
The seat is then open, and a new election is held.... PennsylvaniaMatt Nov 2013 #3
Not knowingly liberal N proud Nov 2013 #4
same here kydo Nov 2013 #8
Only when they're unopposed on the ballot Blue_Tires Nov 2013 #5
Right...In this case, no one is running against them... PennsylvaniaMatt Nov 2013 #6
Our Oregon judges are non-partisan and the issue doesn't arise. I no longer vote Republicsn ever. Shrike47 Nov 2013 #7
Nope warrior1 Nov 2013 #9
No, hell no. dballance Nov 2013 #10
Thanks for the info on Castille. femmocrat Nov 2013 #11
You're welcome...and McVay definitely has my vote! PennsylvaniaMatt Nov 2013 #17
Hell fucking NO!! justice1 Nov 2013 #12
Yup, the alternative on the ballot was a tea party crazee nadinbrzezinski Nov 2013 #13
I will never ever vote for a republican for anything. I won't even vote for a candidate Raine Nov 2013 #14
Not sure but isn't he the one who is 69 years old and can only Marie Marie Nov 2013 #15
They can be hit or miss (usually miss), but a few are fair Rstrstx Nov 2013 #16
Yes. Ms. Toad Nov 2013 #18
In my county in Mississippi often there are no Democratic candidates for local judges...If I know Rowdyboy Nov 2013 #19

PennsylvaniaMatt

(966 posts)
3. The seat is then open, and a new election is held....
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 09:15 PM
Nov 2013

I'm almost positive that party labels are not on the ballot when the question is asked regarding whether that judge should be retained.

kydo

(2,679 posts)
8. same here
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 09:25 PM
Nov 2013

I don't think I have ... I try to find info on the judges on the ballot and see how they ruled but I know when the voters cheat sheet that they hand out at church always supports repubs. So if their name appears on that with a check for yes retain then its probably a repub. Also I check the local repub media and when they label someone as an activist judge, well that's probably a good judge to keep.

key word is activist. Its bagger speak for a judge they don't want.

PennsylvaniaMatt

(966 posts)
6. Right...In this case, no one is running against them...
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 09:21 PM
Nov 2013

It is just a Yes or No question. Voting No does not guarantee that a Democrat will get that judicial spot.

justice1

(795 posts)
12. Hell fucking NO!!
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:34 PM
Nov 2013

I lost everything I own, because of a corrupt lawyer and judge. They are both Republicans, imagine that. It's how I ended up on DU. After trying to fight, I came to the conclusion the only way there would be change in this state, is if the Democrats on the national level, started investing in the state elections.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
14. I will never ever vote for a republican for anything. I won't even vote for a candidate
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:43 PM
Nov 2013

when I don't know what party they are in ... I HATE republicans that much!

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
15. Not sure but isn't he the one who is 69 years old and can only
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:51 PM
Nov 2013

serve for a year before forced retirement? If so, then how would his replacement be picked and would another Republican automatically get his slot? Sorry that I have more questions than answers on this. Besides this, NO I do not knowingly vote for a Republican and I wish all judges had their party affiliation listed - front and center because partisanship is becoming too common with judges.

Rstrstx

(1,399 posts)
16. They can be hit or miss (usually miss), but a few are fair
Mon Nov 4, 2013, 11:51 PM
Nov 2013

Which is the standard any should be held to. I find most federal judges in Central Texas tend to be much less conservative than the uber-fascist 5th Circuit.

Now as to whether I've ever voted for any, mmm, can't say I recall ever doing it. In fact I know most times if there is no D running I'll vote for the token libertarian candidate.

Ms. Toad

(34,069 posts)
18. Yes.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 01:00 AM
Nov 2013

I was a clerk for two years for a Republican judge and voted for him, and one other Republican on the bench at the time. I know them personally, know how they view the law, and trust both of them to act with integrity.

When the judge hired me, he hired me knowing that my faith does not permit me to participate in carrying out the death penalty. Although he does not share my feelings, he respected my conscientious objection to the death penalty and agreed to accommodate me on that issue, by assigning his other clerk the responsibility of writing the few death penalty opinions our particular court heard.

Due to the unusual circumstance that our second parent adoption case was decided against us within a week after I was hired, the loss meant our case would be heard on appeal by the court I'd just been hired into. We either had to forego an appeal, or had to come out to the judge before my first day of work. There is absolutely no protection for LGBT individuals in my state. He could have fired me on the spot, but he chose not to.

As for his judicial integrity, the way he worked was to suggest how he thought the case ought to turn out (based on oral arguments and his preliminary read of the briefs). Then he turned me loose to research and draft the opinion. If I reported to him that the law didn't support his initial opinion, we discussed it. He never once asked me to go against the law when the law did not support the outcome he preferred.

That isn't to say I agreed with all of the decisions I drafted on his behalf. There were times when the law allows a decision to go either way - and if it was a criminal matter, most of the time I would have preferred a different outcome.

The other Republican judge I voted for (on the bench of the same court) was a surprise to me. Before I worked with him at the court, I would never in a million years have predicted I would ever vote for him. After working with him - and seeing his respect for the law, even when it did not fall the way he would have wanted, I voted for him each time he ran for office after that.

As for the rest of the R's on the bench - still not in a million years. I watched each of them insist that their clerks find the most obscure cases, from outside of our jurisdiction when there were none in our jurisdiction, to justify the outcome they wanted- even when there was clear law in our jurisdiction to the contrary (and I drafted dissents or opinions on behalf of my judge pointing that out - often signed by the other Republican judge I have voted for).

So - for me the integrity of the law is important enough that my strongest concern in a judicial race is electing judges who respect it. Most of those are Democrats, but there are occasional D stinkers who also put end results above integrity - and no one who does that will get my vote. And there are occasional R judges who similarly value integrity.

Rowdyboy

(22,057 posts)
19. In my county in Mississippi often there are no Democratic candidates for local judges...If I know
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 01:16 AM
Nov 2013

the person and respect their intelligence I have been known to vote for a few Republican justice court and juvenile court judges. Don't remember ever voting for a Republican for the state supreme court but probably would under those conditions.

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