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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCan a 'Country Mouse" ever really move back to the City...and get a "real job"?
Been an eye opening day for me and I am not sure how to deal with it...so here I am, speaking to my anonymous group pf friends that I have cultivated for the past few years...
See, all this time I have identified myself as a Journalist - with big ideas and thoughts about ethics, integrity and the recent shield laws vs. whistle-blowers. That much is true, I am really invested personally in journalistic integrity and the whole idea of breaking big stories and speaking truth to power.
But the reality is that I have been living in a small town for the past 20 years and I grew up here as a college student and the largest publication I ever worked for maybe had 15-20K circulation at its peak...
Sure, I covered City Council issues and labor disputes, current events, etc...but I covered features a lot more.
I've been blogging and posting so much over the past few years maybe I have become too conversational in my tone. I recall my Mg Ed when I was in my late 20s giving me a lecture for hugging a distraught wife of a drowning victim as she relayed info to me about the obituary... "that was unprofessional" he said. I told him if "professional" meant giving up being HUMAN -I'd gladly be UN professional. My tone in writing has always been more conversational than literary, so there's that.
So I am finally finishing my BA in JRN/COM and feeling really good because I have experience the younger people in my classes do not. I am excelling in my grades, discussions, etc. I have done the salary research and figured I was limiting myself to thinking I would only be worth a 30K/year job with the local rag, and raised my hopes to a senior reporter position, and maybe even moving off this mountain and re-entering the mainstream...
I send my resume and cover letter to a colleague who is my senior by about 20 years. He was the old grizzled reporter who sat next to me in the newsroom as a rookie, and has remained a friend and mentor over the years... He tells me my letter is "too girly" and unprofessional. Thank god he cleaned it up, but no I am doubting ALL my writing, wondering if I can even think of competing in the big nasty wold out there. Maybe it is a good thing to stay in the little fishpond, even if the pay sucks
Tikki
(14,557 posts)Sounds like you want to give it a try
the old pros and cons list and
be extra diligent on what you can actually handle money wise and emotionally.
Just because times seem difficult doesn't mean that one big break can't happen to you
GOOD LUCK whatever you do...
Tikki
keep us posted..
I guess I am doubting my age and ability to adapt more than anything...
Tikki
(14,557 posts)ex:
If you really know what Henry Kissinger was all about, than if you ever have to
write on that time period, those places or that person.. even under today's circumstances..it gives you a chance to
paint a more complete picture with just the correct amount of words
That is what age and experience have going for you.
Tikki
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)if you move to a large market, to a not so friendly, competitive fish pond.
And you hugged somebody. I sent the whole collection of photos from a vigil to the family, So we are not human I guess.
You might want to try for a market like San Diego. It is still friendly, but...
That said, the pay sucks regardless.
Oh and if you move to a larger fish pond... get a GPS.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)but maybe not. ...(I just know I don't wanna be in the snow anymore!)
Been looking at Sonoma Co for a while now...
maybe I should just try to get in with an Entertainment blog (wine tasting, food, and music- yay!) or even PR for a winery (more wine, food and events!)
I agree that the bigger the pond the more hostile and competitive people are. I am way too soft and friendly for that shit... :/
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)from LA, and they were acting like we are from LA, move over.
They were shocked I tell you, that we all stuck together.
Sonoma, the wine blog looks like a good possible market, but a lot of those are freelance. That said, it could be fun. (And do get a GPS, will save your life)
Oh and forgot, those actually like a more conversational tone.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)I will add them to my list of prospects
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)Revanchist
(1,375 posts)Are you happy where you are? Do you think you would enjoy living in a larger city? If the move results in you being miserable then the monetary aspects should factor into the equation at all. Have you tried making a pro and con list for both locations to help put the situation into better perspective and will the pay increase cover the cost of living changes?
In the end the first question you should ask yourself isn't can I do it but should be will I be happy if I do it?
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)came up here as a single mom at 22, knowing I'd be living on a fixed income and that it was safer to be in poverty in a small rural place than in the East Bay where I grew up.
I have visited Sonoma my whole life and always wanted to end up there, it's like a perfect blend of small rural towns and urban sprawl... and the weather is milder which is HUGE for me because I have terrible arthritis and the cold winters are really taking their toll now I am feeling my age...
yes, cost of living is higher, but I *should* qualify for a higher rate of pay as a 'senior' reporter and not some greenhorn right out of school. I have worked in the field in newsrooms and as a freelancer, that should count for something. Another reason for wanting to move is having more options available for myself and for my kids...the market here is WAY limited. Only a 20K population and the daily newspaper is now reduced to 3x/week and has 2 reporters where it once had 7... I would have to move to Reno to find something that pays a livable wage...but Reno sucks.
I believe I'll be happy if I move, but won't even consider it unless I get a job offer that is paying a livable wage ($60K? I'd like to someday make that much) The reality is that I have been so used to living in poverty and sold myself short for so long, I don't think I really KNOW what I am worth...and I have never had the chance to really prove it to myself.
Meanwhile, I get to endure the next 6 months of winter here and finish school...just try and stay focused I guess and see how the market changes....
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)i've been i guess what would be considered "upper middle class".
i've never been a professional. i was an assistant manager in a new york department store beauty salon. i was an administrative assistant in a large ad agency. i've also been a bartender.
i went to school in my late 30s to learn computer programming -- got a few certificates in computer languages and systems design, but never took a job doing either. i did word processing in the legal department of new york telephone company for 9 years. i was a "temp" or "outside consultant". i made great money with the overtime and all the attorneys liked me. when NYT started cutting back i got a permanent job with a famous new york law firm. during those 11 or so years i made between $50 and $60,000 a year but that was with a lot of overtime. we left ny in late '89 and i never worked again because of health problems. sometimes i think some of the health problems came from working the hours i did in closed in buildings with recycled air.
i was a single mom for 3-1/2 years. the most i ever made was $150 a week. i got $40.00 a week in child support and alimony when he paid it. i owned a car -- actually paid one off and bought a new one, but i lived in a dump of an apartment. fortunately my grandmother took care of my son so i didn't have to pay for child care. i wasn't able to save much. my first time on a plane was in '69 when i guy i was dating took me to puerto rico. i couldn't afford a vacation on my own.
my first few years with john were a struggle. he had child support, alimony and $5,000 in his ex wife's charge cards. we stayed in my dump of an apartment for a few years.
i'm ranting on here. anyway he worked for IBM and was able to work his way up. so every year we did a little better. we bought our first house in '89 when we moved to phoenix. i was 48. there was no way we could afford anything in new york.
around the time i hit 60-62 i started to feel like we were financially secure. i'm 72 now -- i've been widowed for almost 18 months and financially i'm okay. i'm collecting john's pension and his 401k and social security survivor benefits. before john died we had an income of approximately $180,000 a year. that's why i said "upper middle class". phoenix has gotten more expensive but it's still affordable. the real estate taxes are low. my friend in ny laughs when i complain about how much i paid for something. she said "it's like we live in 2 different worlds". she pays $3,000 rent for a 1 bedroom apartment -- no doorman -- no amenities.
had i not met john i probably would have pursued more of a career, but what the hell i didn't have all that responsibility doing word processing and i was making good money.
anyway li, you're still in your 40s. don't give up. follow your dream. if it doesn't come true, at least you tried.
i forgot to mention the poor part. when my son was 22 months old my POS ex husband got into trouble with the law. he went to prison for 2-1/2 years and i was on public assistance.
FirstLight
(13,360 posts)I know that technically I am still young/middle age...but there are certainly those days when I feel like I am at the end of my good years...but I have colleagues and friends who are still working and make a real impact on the world at 68+ so you are right, i guess I have all the time in the world.
We've been on public assistance for the better part of 5+years and I've bounced off & on my whole adult life...I am just DONE being so dirt poor and having to report everything that I do...
Anyway, I posted some of my "side stuff" earlier too and in the marketplace, maybe that will help take the edge off the Holidays :/
Wands
http://www.democraticunderground.com/122015858
Word processing
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1120342
DesertFlower
(11,649 posts)he died of a brain tumor. he was still considered very valuable at work and probably would have worked until he was 70 or older. he loved what he did. he used to say "i can't believe they pay me for this".
my sister in law is 62 and runs the cardiac department at memorial sloan kettering. she also teaches part time. she has no intention of retiring.