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MSNBC says McCauliffe has the lead, YAY, but (Original Post) MoonRiver Nov 2013 OP
McCauliffe is going to win. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #1
Election yeoman6987 Nov 2013 #21
Christie will win in New Jersey. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #25
The little TeaPuke rural areas come in first. The blue urban areas later. RELAX. RBInMaine Nov 2013 #2
The areas in the state with the major universities usually voted for Mac. alp227 Nov 2013 #40
Only the rural counties have reported so far. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2013 #3
It's the early returns from the low-population, rural southern part of the state. Arugula Latte Nov 2013 #4
Early numbers are crap. Wait an hour or so. nt onehandle Nov 2013 #5
It was reported on another thread that rural areas report first. Takes longer to count the bigger.. Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #6
I saw that post as well.... chillfactor Nov 2013 #10
Agreed! Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #22
11% has been counted. mucifer Nov 2013 #7
numbers are probably what are coming in first which are often more conservative areas JI7 Nov 2013 #8
OK, thanks for the reassurance guys! MoonRiver Nov 2013 #9
I think they will win - and big time. Calm down. Grateful for Hope Nov 2013 #13
Gonna be a good night for the good guys! MoonRiver Nov 2013 #16
I really do believe this. Grateful for Hope Nov 2013 #19
Yeah, MoonRiver. Me too! I'm still freaking! calimary Nov 2013 #78
More populated areas get counted later. Hence Romneys lead most of the night last JaneyVee Nov 2013 #11
And how sweet it was! MoonRiver Nov 2013 #14
And Ann had had her hair done..... msanthrope Nov 2013 #52
at this point...13% reporting... chillfactor Nov 2013 #12
Polls closed less than an hour ago. Grateful for Hope Nov 2013 #15
first rodeo I take it? Schema Thing Nov 2013 #17
Here's link to results showing what counties are reporting - lynne Nov 2013 #18
Thank you. Maybe you would want to make this a thread of its own? spooky3 Nov 2013 #32
This is a race where we should've run a hardcore progressive. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #20
Why? Because Tim Kaine & Mark Warner were so uber-"progressive"? Tarheel_Dem Nov 2013 #23
What is a "hardcore progressive". What comes to mind to me is Dennis Kucinich. Now do you really lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #24
This was essentially a given for the Democrat in this race. NuclearDem Nov 2013 #27
I respectfully disagree, especially when we are dealing with southern states, nothing is a given lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #28
Fair enough. It is a southern state, but I still stand by my thought NuclearDem Nov 2013 #29
Obviously, I think it would be great if your theory is right, but the other problem is the lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #33
I live in VA (maybe you do too) and IMHO there is NO way that a progressive spooky3 Nov 2013 #30
Actually, I am getting very concerned now, and this looks like it is going down to the line lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #41
it could--but the big purple and blue counties tend to report results later than spooky3 Nov 2013 #43
Definitely not, and I really think we will pull this out, but it will be thanks to the women lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #47
Also, blue Portsmouth (in the Tidewater area) has reported only 1 of 32 precincts. spooky3 Nov 2013 #53
I think McAuliffe will win by a decent margin. The AG race should be tight--hopefully we will StevieM Nov 2013 #65
I agree with you. spooky3 Nov 2013 #70
88% of the vote, and .2% difference, that is not what I call decent margin. Hopefully, the 12% will lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #76
I see what you are saying, but many Democratic areas really do come in late, so the margin should StevieM Nov 2013 #83
Damn well agreed. Jester Messiah Nov 2013 #26
I just walked through the door and saw that. Beacool Nov 2013 #31
Nope Robbins Nov 2013 #34
So hoping you are correct! MoonRiver Nov 2013 #36
Great about the Lt. governor. Beacool Nov 2013 #37
yes, to an extent spooky3 Nov 2013 #39
Yeah, he's kind of conservative. I would have preferred Aneesh Chopra. Maybe in 2017 (eom) StevieM Nov 2013 #75
MSNBC is calling McAuliffe the WINNER! spooky3 Nov 2013 #79
Thank you for holding my hand tonight, my friend. Beacool Nov 2013 #88
Anytime--I know you'll be there for all of us in 2016! spooky3 Nov 2013 #92
Here you go!!! Beacool Nov 2013 #93
thanks, honey! spooky3 Nov 2013 #94
You're welcome. Beacool Nov 2013 #95
This is going to go right down to the line. This is going to be a squeaker lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #42
Now MSNBC and CNN are saying it is Too Close To Call. MoonRiver Nov 2013 #35
Maybe. But Alexandria City, Fairfax Co, Charlottesv., and most of the Tidewater areas spooky3 Nov 2013 #38
CNN shows that 50% of the returns are in. Beacool Nov 2013 #45
This is GOOD news if he's only up by 3 at this point with so much of the northern vote still out. RBInMaine Nov 2013 #48
Anyone who's worried should go to the election link posted above-- spooky3 Nov 2013 #50
I remember when Jim Webb won in that sqeaker, at the end of the evening. NCarolinawoman Nov 2013 #46
Well, let's just hope that history repeats itself. Beacool Nov 2013 #49
I don't think so. Northern Virginia comes in last and I think McAuliffe will win comfortably StevieM Nov 2013 #60
OK, I'm sure that you are correct. Beacool Nov 2013 #63
MSNBC caused confusion by using 2 different sets of data that weren't clearly labeled pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #44
Yay--MSNBC is calling the Lt. Gov. race for the Dems. spooky3 Nov 2013 #51
that's a big win for the dems Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #54
Yes, but 75% of the returns are in and Cuccinelli is still 3% ahead. Beacool Nov 2013 #55
yes, but as I have said several times in this thread, the biggest blue/bluish counties spooky3 Nov 2013 #56
I'm trying, I'm just nervous. Beacool Nov 2013 #59
Take heart! Chuck Todd was practically in tears when he had to say spooky3 Nov 2013 #64
He,he, he.......... Beacool Nov 2013 #85
http://electionresults.virginia.gov/resultsCTY.aspx?type=SWR&rid=315&osn=4&map=CTY spooky3 Nov 2013 #58
The link didn't work. Beacool Nov 2013 #66
see if this does spooky3 Nov 2013 #67
Thanks, now it works. Beacool Nov 2013 #84
Lead down to 1.3% Roland99 Nov 2013 #57
Cooch's lead less than a percentage point now Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2013 #61
dopey Chuck Todd just claimed that it was No VA versus the rest of the state - FALSE spooky3 Nov 2013 #62
Weeeelllll To Me, Right Now... ChiciB1 Nov 2013 #68
McAuliffe trailing by 1.2% with 82% precincts reporting... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2013 #69
thanks -- Fairfax (huge purply blue co.) still is mostly unreported spooky3 Nov 2013 #71
.4% with 85%. I can't believe it's this close, what with... WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2013 #73
per that map, lead is now down to 0.4 percentage points, 85% of precincts reporting spooky3 Nov 2013 #72
Ha, we posted at the same time! WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2013 #74
VA bd of elections site says .03 percentage point difference with 87.64% of the vote in spooky3 Nov 2013 #77
+ .5 McAuliffe with 93% reporting. WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2013 #86
fairfax coming in....!!!!!! msnbc projecting mcaulife spanone Nov 2013 #80
MSNBC just called it... Rosco T. Nov 2013 #81
It looks like Fox called it too. Beacool Nov 2013 #87
CNN just called it too!!!! Beacool Nov 2013 #90
WHEW!!! Sure Was Worried! ChiciB1 Nov 2013 #82
I'm thrilled!!!! Beacool Nov 2013 #89
Meeeeee Tooooooo! ChiciB1 Nov 2013 #91
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
21. Election
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:54 PM
Nov 2013

I hope we win New Jersey too. How on Earth could voters go just a few weeks ago and do the right thing and then the same voters go today and vote for Christie. Why didn't "we" do a better job at trying to get this Governorship? Basically we are going to have 1 win and the Republicans are going to have one win. Everybody is even. No celebrating for anyone.

alp227

(32,020 posts)
40. The areas in the state with the major universities usually voted for Mac.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:26 PM
Nov 2013
http://electionresults.virginia.gov/resultsCTY.aspx?type=SWR&rid=315&osn=4&map=CTY

Charlottesville City (U of Virginia) 82% (!!) for McAuliffe
Chesterfield County (Virginia State U) 49% Cooch
Fairfax County (George Mason U) 57% for Mac
Hampton City (U of Hampton) 68% for Mac
Harrisonburg City (James Madison U) 54% for Mac
Lexington (VMI; Washington and Lee U) 61% for Mac (even where the VA Military Institute is?)
Montgomery County (Virginia Tech) 56% for the Cooch
Norfolk City (Norfolk State U; Old Dominion U) 70% Mac
Radford City (Radford U) 50% Mac
Richmond City (VCU; U of Richmond) 70% for Mac
Williamsburg City (Coll of William & Mary) 63% Mac
Wise County (UVA Wise) 69% Cooch
 

Arugula Latte

(50,566 posts)
4. It's the early returns from the low-population, rural southern part of the state.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:45 PM
Nov 2013

Very Repuke-ian down there.

Tarheel_Dem

(31,233 posts)
6. It was reported on another thread that rural areas report first. Takes longer to count the bigger..
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:46 PM
Nov 2013

city areas, I guess.

JI7

(89,249 posts)
8. numbers are probably what are coming in first which are often more conservative areas
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:46 PM
Nov 2013

that have lower population so they get their numbers in earlier . the heavy Dem areas are usually much more populated and tend to come in last because it takes them longer .

this is why you often see places like California showing republicans ahead at first.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
9. OK, thanks for the reassurance guys!
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:47 PM
Nov 2013

Whew, I knew that stuff, but SOOOOOO want Dems to make a clean sweep in VA this year, I kind of freaked.

Grateful for Hope

(39,320 posts)
13. I think they will win - and big time. Calm down.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:51 PM
Nov 2013

I am in NY, and even early returns in NY have shown conservatives have the lead.

calimary

(81,242 posts)
78. Yeah, MoonRiver. Me too! I'm still freaking!
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:39 PM
Nov 2013

I won't calm down til I see a LEAD, and an ever-increasing lead at that. And we need that Attorney General's job filled by one of ours, too!

 

JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
11. More populated areas get counted later. Hence Romneys lead most of the night last
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 08:50 PM
Nov 2013

November. Then BOOM.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
24. What is a "hardcore progressive". What comes to mind to me is Dennis Kucinich. Now do you really
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:02 PM
Nov 2013

believe that Dennis could win in Virginia?

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
27. This was essentially a given for the Democrat in this race.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:07 PM
Nov 2013

All they had to do was go after KC for his anti-woman and fundamentalist views and they would have run away with it.

But if we wanted to get more progressives on the stage for 2016, then running one in such a highly-publicized race would have not only given them a national spotlight but would have given real progressive values a major platform.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
29. Fair enough. It is a southern state, but I still stand by my thought
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:12 PM
Nov 2013

That a real progressive could've carried this given KC's ultra-right positions.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
33. Obviously, I think it would be great if your theory is right, but the other problem is the
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:19 PM
Nov 2013

Democratic power base at this time is mostly moderate, so it would be tough I think for a progressive

By power base, I mean money backing.





spooky3

(34,450 posts)
30. I live in VA (maybe you do too) and IMHO there is NO way that a progressive
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:13 PM
Nov 2013

has a chance as a governor during these "off-year" elections, when turnout is low and tends to be disproportionately right wing.

When was the last time VA elected a progressive governor?

It is a purple state, because the urban areas are growing more rapidly than the rural areas. So the future may be different, but for now, Dem governor candidates have to be moderate and do a ton of fund-raising and retail politicking--hand-shaking, appearances at the mall, etc.

spooky3

(34,450 posts)
43. it could--but the big purple and blue counties tend to report results later than
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:35 PM
Nov 2013

the rural counties. Don't lose hope!

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
65. I think McAuliffe will win by a decent margin. The AG race should be tight--hopefully we will
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:12 PM
Nov 2013

pull it out.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
76. 88% of the vote, and .2% difference, that is not what I call decent margin. Hopefully, the 12% will
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:38 PM
Nov 2013

say it is for McAuliffe

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
83. I see what you are saying, but many Democratic areas really do come in late, so the margin should
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:45 PM
Nov 2013

grow wider.

The question I have is this: Does McAuliffe win by 2.5 points, or does he win by 3 points? The reason that matters is because the AG race is super tight, and that extra half a point for the Dems will make the difference between victory and defeat. It looks like the winner will come out on top by a margin of less than one quarter of one percentage point.

 

Jester Messiah

(4,711 posts)
26. Damn well agreed.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:06 PM
Nov 2013

The only thing McA has going for him is that he's running against a lunatic theo-fascist. He's far too friendly with the big-money types. Serious reservations.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
31. I just walked through the door and saw that.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:14 PM
Nov 2013

I'm freaking out. Could all the polls have been wrong and that nut job win the election??????

Robbins

(5,066 posts)
34. Nope
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:21 PM
Nov 2013

The MSM Is doing this to gush over Christie and create rating before norhtern Virginia comes in.

The Democrats have won LT governor In Virginia.And of course nobody Is mentioning it besides on bottom of screen.

NBC will have egg on faces on their exit polls If that happened.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
88. Thank you for holding my hand tonight, my friend.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:52 PM
Nov 2013


I was almost in disbelief that after McAuliffe had been up in the polls since spring that Cuccinelli could still pull it off. Now I can have my salad and my chicken cutlet without getting indigestion.

spooky3

(34,450 posts)
92. Anytime--I know you'll be there for all of us in 2016!
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:13 PM
Nov 2013


Now, let's share a little virtual champagne!!!

spooky3

(34,450 posts)
38. Maybe. But Alexandria City, Fairfax Co, Charlottesv., and most of the Tidewater areas
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:23 PM
Nov 2013

have reported few results. About half of Arl. Co. has reported. These areas have tons of blue voters. Fairfax is huge.

Also Mark Warner was just on MSNBC and I was surprised how confident he was in talking as if McAuliffe has already won. It is not like him to go out on any limb, especially in making statements that could embarrass him if he turns out to be wrong, and that he has no obligation to say. And, the libertarian candidate seems to be getting a pretty high %, which probably hurts Cuccinelli more than McAuliffe.

So not to worry--yet!

The Rs' robo-calls were shameless this week--outright lies and smears. Desperation.

 

RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
48. This is GOOD news if he's only up by 3 at this point with so much of the northern vote still out.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:38 PM
Nov 2013

spooky3

(34,450 posts)
50. Anyone who's worried should go to the election link posted above--
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:48 PM
Nov 2013

Not only is most of Fairfax Co. unreported, only 1/10 Charlottesville precincts' votes are in, and Alexandria City and Arl. Co (bluer than Fairfax) are not fully reported yet. Tidewater (Norfolk, Suffolk) also hasn't fully reported, and VA Beach, which leans red, shows most of its votes are in and the race is pretty tight there.

NCarolinawoman

(2,825 posts)
46. I remember when Jim Webb won in that sqeaker, at the end of the evening.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:36 PM
Nov 2013

It was after the final votes from a county in N. Virginia. By about 8000 votes, I believe.

Back in 2006. I had sent him some money. We were all energized by Howard Dean. (I had been a Wes Clark supporter.)

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
49. Well, let's just hope that history repeats itself.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:43 PM
Nov 2013

61% reporting and the Cooch is still 3% ahead. This is a nail biter.

StevieM

(10,500 posts)
60. I don't think so. Northern Virginia comes in last and I think McAuliffe will win comfortably
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:07 PM
Nov 2013

And the 3 point lead was actually 2.3 points and it's now down to 1.93 points. Check that--since I started writing it is down to 0.92 points.

The real contest is in the Attorney General's race. We are down by 3.5 points. That one will be a real nail-biter, but I think we will pull it out.

Also, remember that 1/5 of the precincts left to report does not necessarily mean 1/5 of the vote. 20% of the precincts can mean 40% of the vote, depending on where the outstanding vote is coming from.

pinboy3niner

(53,339 posts)
44. MSNBC caused confusion by using 2 different sets of data that weren't clearly labeled
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:35 PM
Nov 2013

They were stating "McAuliffe ahead" (based on their exit polling), while at the same time showing onscreen the very early actual precinct results reported to the Board of Elections--which naturally showed McAuliffe behind in those early rural votes.

Chris Matthews mentioned later why there was that discrepancy, but they really need to do a better job of labeling and specifying exactly what data they're talking about or presenting onscreen.

spooky3

(34,450 posts)
51. Yay--MSNBC is calling the Lt. Gov. race for the Dems.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 09:50 PM
Nov 2013

The R candidate (Jackson) is even nuttier than Cuccinelli.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
55. Yes, but 75% of the returns are in and Cuccinelli is still 3% ahead.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:00 PM
Nov 2013

I can't believe that so many IDIOTS in VA voted for this RW kook. If he does win, they deserve what they get!!!!!

spooky3

(34,450 posts)
56. yes, but as I have said several times in this thread, the biggest blue/bluish counties
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:03 PM
Nov 2013

have not reported even half of their votes (except Arlington Co.). The red areas are mostly fully reported by now. That remaining 25% is in the bluer areas. Don't lose hope!

spooky3

(34,450 posts)
64. Take heart! Chuck Todd was practically in tears when he had to say
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:12 PM
Nov 2013

that FFX Co.'s votes were mostly still not counted, etc. It pained him so much that he had to lie and say that it's NoVA versus the rest of the state, when his OWN MAP shows all the urban areas are blue, not just NoVA.

spooky3

(34,450 posts)
58. http://electionresults.virginia.gov/resultsCTY.aspx?type=SWR&rid=315&osn=4&map=CTY
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:04 PM
Nov 2013

check them out for yourself if you like

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
84. Thanks, now it works.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:46 PM
Nov 2013

I couldn't take the pressure. I had to get up and make myself a salad (I haven't had dinner yet).

spooky3

(34,450 posts)
62. dopey Chuck Todd just claimed that it was No VA versus the rest of the state - FALSE
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:10 PM
Nov 2013

his OWN map shows that all of the urban areas are blue throughout the state, and rural/exurban areas are red.

No surprise there.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
68. Weeeelllll To Me, Right Now...
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:14 PM
Nov 2013

I'm REALLY, REALLY worried! I can't believe the numbers I'm seeing. McAuliffe has polled ahead all along, so WHAT'S going on? Anyone think "funny business?" I know Cooch purged voters, could more have been done. Am I into conspiracy thoughts right now?

Someone, please HELP me, I need reassurance because I have a huge pit in my gut! I told my husband some time ago that McAullife could very well lose, but I began to think otherwise lately.

Are the people in VA really going to give it to Cooch? OMG. I'm freaking!

spooky3

(34,450 posts)
71. thanks -- Fairfax (huge purply blue co.) still is mostly unreported
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:18 PM
Nov 2013

as are two very blue Tidewater Counties

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
73. .4% with 85%. I can't believe it's this close, what with...
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:25 PM
Nov 2013

the government shutdown lunacy. And Cooch in general lunacy.

spooky3

(34,450 posts)
77. VA bd of elections site says .03 percentage point difference with 87.64% of the vote in
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:38 PM
Nov 2013

Still 50+ precincts in FFX Co, plus many in Portsmouth and Suffolk, all blue, to be counted. Also, it appears from my county's results that they have NOT counted the absentee and provisional ballots. WaPo said that these tend blue.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
90. CNN just called it too!!!!
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:56 PM
Nov 2013

They are at McAuliffe's headquarters now. Thank you Northern VA for pulling it off for the Democrat!!!!!

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
82. WHEW!!! Sure Was Worried!
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:44 PM
Nov 2013

Called For McAuliffe FINALLY! I give mucho thanks to somebody!
and from Florida...

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
91. Meeeeee Tooooooo!
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:02 PM
Nov 2013

Democrats in Congress should NOW start pushing back on Repukes and make their voices heard!

We NEED the wimpy ones to start standing up for "we the people" with some fire in their belly! Bang the drums and kick some ass!

It's way past time!

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