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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMSNBC says McCauliffe has the lead, YAY, but
they show numbers that indicate the opposite. In their graphic it's something like McCauliffe 40, Nutjob, 52.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)I hope we win New Jersey too. How on Earth could voters go just a few weeks ago and do the right thing and then the same voters go today and vote for Christie. Why didn't "we" do a better job at trying to get this Governorship? Basically we are going to have 1 win and the Republicans are going to have one win. Everybody is even. No celebrating for anyone.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)alp227
(32,020 posts)Charlottesville City (U of Virginia) 82% (!!) for McAuliffe
Chesterfield County (Virginia State U) 49% Cooch
Fairfax County (George Mason U) 57% for Mac
Hampton City (U of Hampton) 68% for Mac
Harrisonburg City (James Madison U) 54% for Mac
Lexington (VMI; Washington and Lee U) 61% for Mac (even where the VA Military Institute is?)
Montgomery County (Virginia Tech) 56% for the Cooch
Norfolk City (Norfolk State U; Old Dominion U) 70% Mac
Radford City (Radford U) 50% Mac
Richmond City (VCU; U of Richmond) 70% for Mac
Williamsburg City (Coll of William & Mary) 63% Mac
Wise County (UVA Wise) 69% Cooch
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,969 posts)It'll change.
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Very Repuke-ian down there.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)city areas, I guess.
chillfactor
(7,575 posts)so at this point I am not panicking
Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)mucifer
(23,542 posts)JI7
(89,249 posts)that have lower population so they get their numbers in earlier . the heavy Dem areas are usually much more populated and tend to come in last because it takes them longer .
this is why you often see places like California showing republicans ahead at first.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Whew, I knew that stuff, but SOOOOOO want Dems to make a clean sweep in VA this year, I kind of freaked.
Grateful for Hope
(39,320 posts)I am in NY, and even early returns in NY have shown conservatives have the lead.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)Grateful for Hope
(39,320 posts)calimary
(81,242 posts)I won't calm down til I see a LEAD, and an ever-increasing lead at that. And we need that Attorney General's job filled by one of ours, too!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)November. Then BOOM.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)msanthrope
(37,549 posts)chillfactor
(7,575 posts)McAuliffe 11% behind
Grateful for Hope
(39,320 posts)The early returns are usually pretty meaningless.
Schema Thing
(10,283 posts)lynne
(3,118 posts)spooky3
(34,450 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)Tarheel_Dem
(31,233 posts)lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)believe that Dennis could win in Virginia?
NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)All they had to do was go after KC for his anti-woman and fundamentalist views and they would have run away with it.
But if we wanted to get more progressives on the stage for 2016, then running one in such a highly-publicized race would have not only given them a national spotlight but would have given real progressive values a major platform.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)NuclearDem
(16,184 posts)That a real progressive could've carried this given KC's ultra-right positions.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)Democratic power base at this time is mostly moderate, so it would be tough I think for a progressive
By power base, I mean money backing.
spooky3
(34,450 posts)has a chance as a governor during these "off-year" elections, when turnout is low and tends to be disproportionately right wing.
When was the last time VA elected a progressive governor?
It is a purple state, because the urban areas are growing more rapidly than the rural areas. So the future may be different, but for now, Dem governor candidates have to be moderate and do a ton of fund-raising and retail politicking--hand-shaking, appearances at the mall, etc.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)spooky3
(34,450 posts)the rural counties. Don't lose hope!
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)spooky3
(34,450 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)pull it out.
spooky3
(34,450 posts)lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)say it is for McAuliffe
StevieM
(10,500 posts)grow wider.
The question I have is this: Does McAuliffe win by 2.5 points, or does he win by 3 points? The reason that matters is because the AG race is super tight, and that extra half a point for the Dems will make the difference between victory and defeat. It looks like the winner will come out on top by a margin of less than one quarter of one percentage point.
Jester Messiah
(4,711 posts)The only thing McA has going for him is that he's running against a lunatic theo-fascist. He's far too friendly with the big-money types. Serious reservations.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)I'm freaking out. Could all the polls have been wrong and that nut job win the election??????
The MSM Is doing this to gush over Christie and create rating before norhtern Virginia comes in.
The Democrats have won LT governor In Virginia.And of course nobody Is mentioning it besides on bottom of screen.
NBC will have egg on faces on their exit polls If that happened.
MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)I think you are!
Beacool
(30,247 posts)What parts of VA have already reported in, the red areas?
spooky3
(34,450 posts)StevieM
(10,500 posts)spooky3
(34,450 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)I was almost in disbelief that after McAuliffe had been up in the polls since spring that Cuccinelli could still pull it off. Now I can have my salad and my chicken cutlet without getting indigestion.
spooky3
(34,450 posts)Now, let's share a little virtual champagne!!!
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Brought enough for everybody.
spooky3
(34,450 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)MoonRiver
(36,926 posts)spooky3
(34,450 posts)have reported few results. About half of Arl. Co. has reported. These areas have tons of blue voters. Fairfax is huge.
Also Mark Warner was just on MSNBC and I was surprised how confident he was in talking as if McAuliffe has already won. It is not like him to go out on any limb, especially in making statements that could embarrass him if he turns out to be wrong, and that he has no obligation to say. And, the libertarian candidate seems to be getting a pretty high %, which probably hurts Cuccinelli more than McAuliffe.
So not to worry--yet!
The Rs' robo-calls were shameless this week--outright lies and smears. Desperation.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)The Cooch is up by 3%.
RBInMaine
(13,570 posts)spooky3
(34,450 posts)Not only is most of Fairfax Co. unreported, only 1/10 Charlottesville precincts' votes are in, and Alexandria City and Arl. Co (bluer than Fairfax) are not fully reported yet. Tidewater (Norfolk, Suffolk) also hasn't fully reported, and VA Beach, which leans red, shows most of its votes are in and the race is pretty tight there.
NCarolinawoman
(2,825 posts)It was after the final votes from a county in N. Virginia. By about 8000 votes, I believe.
Back in 2006. I had sent him some money. We were all energized by Howard Dean. (I had been a Wes Clark supporter.)
Beacool
(30,247 posts)61% reporting and the Cooch is still 3% ahead. This is a nail biter.
StevieM
(10,500 posts)And the 3 point lead was actually 2.3 points and it's now down to 1.93 points. Check that--since I started writing it is down to 0.92 points.
The real contest is in the Attorney General's race. We are down by 3.5 points. That one will be a real nail-biter, but I think we will pull it out.
Also, remember that 1/5 of the precincts left to report does not necessarily mean 1/5 of the vote. 20% of the precincts can mean 40% of the vote, depending on where the outstanding vote is coming from.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)It's still a nail biter.
pinboy3niner
(53,339 posts)They were stating "McAuliffe ahead" (based on their exit polling), while at the same time showing onscreen the very early actual precinct results reported to the Board of Elections--which naturally showed McAuliffe behind in those early rural votes.
Chris Matthews mentioned later why there was that discrepancy, but they really need to do a better job of labeling and specifying exactly what data they're talking about or presenting onscreen.
spooky3
(34,450 posts)The R candidate (Jackson) is even nuttier than Cuccinelli.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)I can't believe that so many IDIOTS in VA voted for this RW kook. If he does win, they deserve what they get!!!!!
spooky3
(34,450 posts)have not reported even half of their votes (except Arlington Co.). The red areas are mostly fully reported by now. That remaining 25% is in the bluer areas. Don't lose hope!
Beacool
(30,247 posts)Right now Cooch is up only by 1% with 80% of the votes counted.
spooky3
(34,450 posts)that FFX Co.'s votes were mostly still not counted, etc. It pained him so much that he had to lie and say that it's NoVA versus the rest of the state, when his OWN MAP shows all the urban areas are blue, not just NoVA.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)spooky3
(34,450 posts)check them out for yourself if you like
Beacool
(30,247 posts)But thanks anyway.
spooky3
(34,450 posts)Beacool
(30,247 posts)I couldn't take the pressure. I had to get up and make myself a salad (I haven't had dinner yet).
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,969 posts)spooky3
(34,450 posts)his OWN map shows that all of the urban areas are blue throughout the state, and rural/exurban areas are red.
No surprise there.
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)I'm REALLY, REALLY worried! I can't believe the numbers I'm seeing. McAuliffe has polled ahead all along, so WHAT'S going on? Anyone think "funny business?" I know Cooch purged voters, could more have been done. Am I into conspiracy thoughts right now?
Someone, please HELP me, I need reassurance because I have a huge pit in my gut! I told my husband some time ago that McAullife could very well lose, but I began to think otherwise lately.
Are the people in VA really going to give it to Cooch? OMG. I'm freaking!
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)spooky3
(34,450 posts)as are two very blue Tidewater Counties
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)the government shutdown lunacy. And Cooch in general lunacy.
spooky3
(34,450 posts)WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)LOL I cannot believe it's this close...
spooky3
(34,450 posts)Still 50+ precincts in FFX Co, plus many in Portsmouth and Suffolk, all blue, to be counted. Also, it appears from my county's results that they have NOT counted the absentee and provisional ballots. WaPo said that these tend blue.
WorseBeforeBetter
(11,441 posts)Crazy.
NYT has called it.
spanone
(135,831 posts)Rosco T.
(6,496 posts)McCauliffe
Beacool
(30,247 posts)They are still wondering what the margin will be.
Beacool
(30,247 posts)They are at McAuliffe's headquarters now. Thank you Northern VA for pulling it off for the Democrat!!!!!
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)Called For McAuliffe FINALLY! I give mucho thanks to somebody!
and from Florida...
Beacool
(30,247 posts)And relieved............
ChiciB1
(15,435 posts)Democrats in Congress should NOW start pushing back on Repukes and make their voices heard!
We NEED the wimpy ones to start standing up for "we the people" with some fire in their belly! Bang the drums and kick some ass!
It's way past time!