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A blowout in VA would have repudiated the teabaggers. A close race like this means they stay alive. (Original Post) Stinky The Clown Nov 2013 OP
They still lost. Lex Nov 2013 #1
They'll think that they would have won if only the candidate was even more crazy Trekologer Nov 2013 #24
Well, that's Chucky Todd's take on it. My take is that had the Dems run a better candidate spooky3 Nov 2013 #2
good point! and even with a less vibrant DEM candidate, we still beat a tea party darling in an off Divine Discontent Nov 2013 #18
Which is good for Democrats. As long as establishment repubs and teabaggers infight, Dems win n/t Blaukraut Nov 2013 #3
I agree. As long as Democrats win tonight, having close races is beneficial long term bluestate10 Nov 2013 #22
Yep ... 1StrongBlackMan Nov 2013 #31
Is that bad? StrayKat Nov 2013 #4
Stinky, they will not go quietly into that good night. Faygo Kid Nov 2013 #5
I have to confess . . . . I was really hopeful that Cooch would get his ass kicked. Stinky The Clown Nov 2013 #15
Might that actually help us in the long run? Anything to see the repukes put up weak candidates madinmaryland Nov 2013 #23
i want the teabaggers alive thru 2014 scheming daemons Nov 2013 #6
Chris Christie is a loser then. Dawson Leery Nov 2013 #7
We'll find out next year. GOP will kill tea party. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #8
they don't get to claim Moral Victory on this one NightWatcher Nov 2013 #9
Good. They can keep losing. JaneyVee Nov 2013 #10
"Cuccinelli was too liberal." baldguy Nov 2013 #11
Teabaggers like roaches will always be here to annoy us. hrmjustin Nov 2013 #12
let the Poison continue... The more insanity the more this will spread... busterbrown Nov 2013 #13
I'm Going To Try To Stay Positive... ChiciB1 Nov 2013 #14
I can't see how you can say that considering all the underhanded shit Cuchinelli pulled CatWoman Nov 2013 #16
1,000 malaise Nov 2013 #17
"kicked his ass"? onenote Nov 2013 #32
don't forget the cooch tried to slant the race his way by dumping voters from the rolls kydo Nov 2013 #19
They'll run someone even more conservative next time. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 2013 #20
T-baggers and the far right are what cost them. Exit polls showed moderates favored T-Mac and Erose999 Nov 2013 #21
So the infighting in their party gets worse. Motown_Johnny Nov 2013 #25
The biggest problem will be the media making it seem like the tea bagger won lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #26
A Win Is A Win iloveObama12 Nov 2013 #27
In some ways this was a blowout... Agschmid Nov 2013 #28
The upside of that means they will just get crazier... truebluegreen Nov 2013 #29
A very respectable margin of victory ............. and the Obamacare referendum FAILS. Coyotl Nov 2013 #30
That's spin. onenote Nov 2013 #33

spooky3

(34,481 posts)
2. Well, that's Chucky Todd's take on it. My take is that had the Dems run a better candidate
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:43 PM
Nov 2013

it would have been a D blowout. Coulda woulda shoulda, and all that.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
18. good point! and even with a less vibrant DEM candidate, we still beat a tea party darling in an off
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:49 PM
Nov 2013

year election! woohoo! good if they're still alive as a 'tea party' because they can just keep on losing! lol



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bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
22. I agree. As long as Democrats win tonight, having close races is beneficial long term
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:53 PM
Nov 2013

to Democrats across the country. Teabaggers will take the close races as assurance that their views are acceptable to voters, which will prove to be toxic for the republican party candidates across the country in 2014.

BTW, President Obama need to get the health care implementation fuck up solved fast. I think the President coming to Virginia was a negative for Democrats, given circumstances his visit didn't help Democrats and fired up teabaggers. If things don't change, Democratic candidates across the country would be better off not to invite the President to speak at their rallies unless they are in deep blue states of districts. If health care implementation gets cleaned up by the end of November and people across the country see the benefits, then having the President come in September through Election Day in 2014 will be a good decision for most Democratic candidates.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
31. Yep ...
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:47 PM
Nov 2013

That's my take on it.

As long as the tea-party is around, the House is in play for 2014.

If the VA election had been a blow out, establishment republicans could have told the tea-party to sit down and shut up. By losing by less than 10, with a libertarian candidate pulling votes away from cooch, the tea-party can/will argue the election had nothing to do with them ... it was that damned libertarian guy.

Faygo Kid

(21,478 posts)
5. Stinky, they will not go quietly into that good night.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:43 PM
Nov 2013

And we were naive to think they might do so. They are passionate - jaw-droppingly awful, but passionate.

We have just begun the fight.

Stinky The Clown

(67,819 posts)
15. I have to confess . . . . I was really hopeful that Cooch would get his ass kicked.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:48 PM
Nov 2013

The fact he hung in there could, in fact, make the teabaggers even MORE passionate and MORE crazy.

madinmaryland

(64,933 posts)
23. Might that actually help us in the long run? Anything to see the repukes put up weak candidates
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:16 PM
Nov 2013

that are far out of the mainstream of the country is all the better. I want to see the republican party split and see the split be VERY ugly. FUCK THEM.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
8. We'll find out next year. GOP will kill tea party.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:44 PM
Nov 2013

You don't win nationally or even many statewide contests as a tea bagger.

ChiciB1

(15,435 posts)
14. I'm Going To Try To Stay Positive...
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:47 PM
Nov 2013

IT'S A START IN THE "CORRECT" DIRECTION! Not gonna say "right" fer nuttin'!

CatWoman

(79,302 posts)
16. I can't see how you can say that considering all the underhanded shit Cuchinelli pulled
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:48 PM
Nov 2013

i.e., throwing THOUSANDS off the voter rolls.

Yet Terry Mac still kicked his ass

onenote

(42,767 posts)
32. "kicked his ass"?
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:58 PM
Nov 2013

Too much celebratory bubbly?
I worked for Terry M and supported him with my checkbook. But the fact is that he didn't kick anyone's ass. He is going to end up with less than 48 percent of the vote and a victory margin of less than 2 percent. Compare that to McDonnell's 17 percent win over Creigh Deeds or Tim Kaine's 5 plus percent win over Kilgore. Compare it to Northam's Lt. Gov. 10 percent win over certifiably nutjob Jackson for Lt. Gov. Or Christie's 20 plus point win over Buono in NJ.

We survived. And I'll take it. But I refuse to pretend that this some bellweather moment. We have to do better.

Erose999

(5,624 posts)
21. T-baggers and the far right are what cost them. Exit polls showed moderates favored T-Mac and
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 10:51 PM
Nov 2013

independents favored T-mac or the libertarian candidate. And the libertarian got 11 and 12% of the vote in some of the light red counties.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
28. In some ways this was a blowout...
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:20 PM
Nov 2013

Yes not by the measured % of vote received... but historical precedent says the Reps should have won that race handily... and they did not.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
29. The upside of that means they will just get crazier...
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:44 PM
Nov 2013

which will continue to hurt them...IF the effin' Democrats show up.

onenote

(42,767 posts)
33. That's spin.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:06 AM
Nov 2013

Maybe spin is what we need to do, but a win of less than 2 points is not "very respectable" particularly when the repub nominee was as bad as Cooch.

And when you win with less than 48 percent of the vote, I'm not sure you can claim to have won a referendum on anything much.

Sorry to seem like Debbie Downer, but I've lived in Virginia my entire life and we got very very lucky today.

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