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The Democratic Party of New Jersey Elected Chris Christie. (Original Post) onehandle Nov 2013 OP
I would like to see links or names of any Democrats who did this lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #1
So you want a list of basically every elected D in the state? davepc Nov 2013 #33
I found the links. I was not aware of this, I am now, it is as simple as that, and I am disgusted lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #41
I don't get it. texanwitch Nov 2013 #2
amen DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #7
The guy is running for president. texanwitch Nov 2013 #23
There just might be "something in the water" Art_from_Ark Nov 2013 #16
I was just kidding about the water. texanwitch Nov 2013 #25
NJ politics have always been corrupt. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #43
I'm a NJ resident in NC now tabbycat31 Nov 2013 #47
+ 100000000000000000000 russspeakeasy Nov 2013 #3
Christie is an interesting personality, but is conservative, and should have been voted out of power Divine Discontent Nov 2013 #4
I don't want to sound unpleasant...but "Democrat" doesn't equal "Progressive" brooklynite Nov 2013 #26
true! sad that many supported the anti-gay anti-choice, anti-wage candidate Divine Discontent Nov 2013 #30
Unpleasant is not the same thing as interesting quakerboy Nov 2013 #48
Well the irony is that hubris will be Christie's downfall. He is tolerable when he is humble but he grantcart Nov 2013 #5
I'm in full favor of primarying democrats who act too much like republicans. liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #6
That seems to be most of the Democratic Party. RC Nov 2013 #20
Take Jay Inslee, new democratic governor of Washington State Phlem Nov 2013 #29
are you serious? Inslee is on board with the liquor control board's recommendations? liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #32
yep. Phlem Nov 2013 #45
Here a bit more info Phlem Nov 2013 #46
Good luck. BumRushDaShow Nov 2013 #8
Are you aware of any that did so? pnwmom Nov 2013 #9
Link from another thread BumRushDaShow Nov 2013 #10
Thanks. What idiots. n/t pnwmom Nov 2013 #11
You have to watch HBO's "Boardwalk Empire" BumRushDaShow Nov 2013 #12
He was going to win anyway. joshcryer Nov 2013 #13
Exactly what I said at Drinking Liberally earlier. onehandle Nov 2013 #15
I'm not saying it was right. joshcryer Nov 2013 #17
We have given too much to them in the past 30 yrs. When will it stop? How far to the right liberal_at_heart Nov 2013 #18
No they should not. joshcryer Nov 2013 #19
PREACH! JaneyVee Nov 2013 #14
lololol. riggghhhhhht. Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #21
So you support Democrats endorsing a guy who vetoed a minimum wage increase NuclearDem Nov 2013 #49
The love affair with 'moderate' Republicans by some Dems, continues. The question is, what is this sabrina 1 Nov 2013 #22
+ 1,000,000,000 What You Said !!! - K & R !!! WillyT Nov 2013 #24
Democrats supporting an anti-gay, anti-abortion, anti-minimum wage governor, screw them lostincalifornia Nov 2013 #27
All politics is local question everything Nov 2013 #28
Do you think they endorsed Christie because they were all "mavericky?" merrily Nov 2013 #31
Following orders. davepc Nov 2013 #34
Despicable. Buono was abandoned by the party. SchmerzImArsch Nov 2013 #35
Absolutely right. Compare the actions in the two governor's races, from Obama on down. Jim Lane Nov 2013 #37
Scumsucking centrist traitor Reagan Democrats. Zorra Nov 2013 #36
If the "party" isn't good enough for Bernie RandiFan1290 Nov 2013 #38
There is a myth in the metro NY/NJ area that he is good at his job. stevenleser Nov 2013 #39
I just heard on the local news here that Christie received Skidmore Nov 2013 #40
Lets just cut to the chase... adavid Nov 2013 #42
Half of NJ voters are registered as unaffiliated -- they can't vote in primaries. FarCenter Nov 2013 #44

davepc

(3,936 posts)
33. So you want a list of basically every elected D in the state?
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 02:29 AM
Nov 2013

The downstate machine cut their deals, they got out of the way so Christie could have an easy victory. They'll get their quid-pro-quo soon enough.

lostincalifornia

(3,639 posts)
41. I found the links. I was not aware of this, I am now, it is as simple as that, and I am disgusted
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:21 AM
Nov 2013

at those "democrats"

texanwitch

(18,705 posts)
2. I don't get it.
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:45 PM
Nov 2013

Why democrats would vote for the gas bag.

If this jack ass get elected president, can we blame New Jersey the way Texas was blamed for Bush.

Fair is fair.

Must be something in the water.

texanwitch

(18,705 posts)
23. The guy is running for president.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:45 AM
Nov 2013

That is why he lost all that weight.

He would appear to be the sane one running in the Republican party.

I didn't like the way he was yelling at that teacher the other day.

He is a bully.

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
16. There just might be "something in the water"
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:08 AM
Nov 2013

New Jersey has more Superfund sites (116) than any other state.

http://scorecard.goodguide.com/env-releases/land/rank-states.tcl

A Suferfund site is defined as "an uncontrolled or abandoned place where hazardous waste is located, possibly affecting local ecosystems or people."

JoePhilly

(27,787 posts)
43. NJ politics have always been corrupt.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:44 AM
Nov 2013

Here's the simplified version.

Christie's response to Sandy is perceived as strong in NJ. That issue trumps all others. In state Dems in NJ want to keep their jobs, and their connections. They decide its in their own PERSONAL best interest to get behind Christie while the shadow of Sandy remains.

NJ politicians tend to put themselves first, then they look at the issues. Just look at Christie as an example. People in NJ tend to know and accept all this. Everyone, even the voters, play both ends against the middle.

So, in a sense you are right, it is in the political water, so to speak.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
4. Christie is an interesting personality, but is conservative, and should have been voted out of power
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:46 PM
Nov 2013

in a Democratic state. I agree.

One has to wonder if TPTB wanted him to win simply so he would be the '16 nominee on the other side. I don't think that is fair to those in NJ who are harmed by his Republican policies. Heck, voters in NJ rejected his minimum wage veto tonight!



Get it here -> http://www.zazzle.com/youre_not_in_the_1_why_vote_like_you_are_bumpe_bumper_sticker-128479630785214922?rf=238107662556833486

brooklynite

(94,974 posts)
26. I don't want to sound unpleasant...but "Democrat" doesn't equal "Progressive"
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:50 AM
Nov 2013

DU is NOT representative of the Party at large, and most Democrats are not as politically engaged as those who frequent political blogs. Christie won in large part because self-identified Democrats voted for him.

Divine Discontent

(21,056 posts)
30. true! sad that many supported the anti-gay anti-choice, anti-wage candidate
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 01:50 AM
Nov 2013

and that no one seemed to give the Democratic candidate a helping hand, from the White House on down...

quakerboy

(13,923 posts)
48. Unpleasant is not the same thing as interesting
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 11:25 PM
Nov 2013

But that seems to be a distinction that New Jersey has not mastered yet. Granted I make this sweeping generalization from my west coast safe haven, and with really only 4 points of reference, so maybe I am missing some key bit that would make sense of the whole thing.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
5. Well the irony is that hubris will be Christie's downfall. He is tolerable when he is humble but he
Tue Nov 5, 2013, 11:49 PM
Nov 2013

unleashes his "inner ass" when he gets full of himself.


A landslide win will make him a legend in his own feeble mind and he will uncase his insufferable angry bloviating inner bear.


I would like to think that Democrats set this up with that in mind but I am doubtful.

 

RC

(25,592 posts)
20. That seems to be most of the Democratic Party.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:34 AM
Nov 2013

When a real Democratic runs, they get ignored for not being conservative {read DLC} enough.

Phlem

(6,323 posts)
29. Take Jay Inslee, new democratic governor of Washington State
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 01:49 AM
Nov 2013

Not a year into his term and he's killing medical marijuana in Washington State. How very Republican of him.

What do you do when these guys get into office and do an about face 1st day on the job?

I've had enough of the DLC turned DNC speaking for an actual Democratic populace. The suits cannot run the show else we get what we deserve.

Take back the DNC now!

-p

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
32. are you serious? Inslee is on board with the liquor control board's recommendations?
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 02:24 AM
Nov 2013

I did not know that. I voted for that jerk. I won't vote for him when he runs for re-election.

BumRushDaShow

(129,987 posts)
12. You have to watch HBO's "Boardwalk Empire"
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:05 AM
Nov 2013

NJ politics is as corrupt now as it was back in the 1920s.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
15. Exactly what I said at Drinking Liberally earlier.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:08 AM
Nov 2013

They were looking for political favors.

Primary them.

joshcryer

(62,287 posts)
17. I'm not saying it was right.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:10 AM
Nov 2013

But if they get their favors they won't get primaried. It's the ugly side of politics. Arguably the ugliest, since it's legal. (As long as they don't say it openly.)

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
18. We have given too much to them in the past 30 yrs. When will it stop? How far to the right
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:11 AM
Nov 2013

are we going to let them pull us? It doesn't matter if he was going to win anyway. Democrats should not have endorsed him.

joshcryer

(62,287 posts)
19. No they should not.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:14 AM
Nov 2013

But if one of them gets an upgrade to a firehouse out of it I'm not going to complain, if one of them gets new upgrades to their redlights or upgrades to their roads or bridges, I'm not going to complain. What sucks is that because of corrupt politics they felt that they needed to do it.

They did it to get something not to give anything. Most people are rational and see it for what it is. Realpolitik.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
22. The love affair with 'moderate' Republicans by some Dems, continues. The question is, what is this
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 12:36 AM
Nov 2013

about?

We have Republicans, far too many, in the Cabinet of a Democratic President and we have people here telling us that these Republicans are 'good for the country'.

Now we hear that 30% of Dems in NJ voted for a Republican!!!

I've seen people right here on DU fawn over Christie. And we had that race in Florida where Dems were told to vote for the Republican.

What is going on here? One thing is certain, I am willing to bet that 30% of Dems who voted for a Republican, were NOT PROGRESSIVES.

And when he won, did Christie talk about 'bi-partisanship' with Dems? I can't say for sure because I didn't see the entire speech.

However, the Dem who squeaked through to a win in Virginia, made sure to talk about 'bi-partisanship' and 'pragmatism', working with Repubicans etc etc.

I wonder why Repubs never seem to feel the need to talk about 'working with Dems' while Dems can't seem to wait, even after we WIN, to hurry up and assure everyone they are not just going to represent those who elected them, they are going to work 'with Republicans'.

So sick of it all.

question everything

(47,589 posts)
28. All politics is local
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 01:46 AM
Nov 2013

As the saying goes.

I don't live in NJ, and I have never voted for a Republican - at least, not when the elections were non partisan.

But if the citizens of New Jersey believe that Christie made a difference after Sandy, and on other issues..

From my wider perspective I would welcome a moderate - call it non-rabid Republican - over a teabagger.

Yes, we would love to have more teabaggers in the race so that they can be squashed. But I think, as a nation, we are better off with more moderate Republicans than with teabaggers. At some point, our representatives have to run a country, not keeping scores.

merrily

(45,251 posts)
31. Do you think they endorsed Christie because they were all "mavericky?"
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 02:19 AM
Nov 2013

Or because they were following orders?

Dunno. I'm not in New Jersey, but, from a distance, it seems odd.

Then again, Third Way and No Labels seem odd to me.

 

SchmerzImArsch

(49 posts)
35. Despicable. Buono was abandoned by the party.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 02:43 AM
Nov 2013

Never contribute to clearing houses like the DCCC or the DNC. Contribute directly to your candidate of choice.

 

Jim Lane

(11,175 posts)
37. Absolutely right. Compare the actions in the two governor's races, from Obama on down.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:02 AM
Nov 2013

Obama, Biden, Bill Clinton -- helping McAuliffe while apparently forgetting that New Jersey existed.

Of course, that doesn't excuse the many local elected Democrats who endorsed Christie.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
39. There is a myth in the metro NY/NJ area that he is good at his job.
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:19 AM
Nov 2013

It's one I have been fighting ever since he came on the scene.

There is nothing special about how he has done his job, he doesn't have any particularly great accomplishments to his name.

Some people equate pugnaciousness and steadfastness with strong leadership. It is not the same thing.

Skidmore

(37,364 posts)
40. I just heard on the local news here that Christie received
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 07:22 AM
Nov 2013

a full one-third of his votes from Democrats.

 

adavid

(140 posts)
42. Lets just cut to the chase...
Wed Nov 6, 2013, 10:38 AM
Nov 2013

on this.
Question; If Christie gets the GOP nomination in 2016, will he carry NJ? Will other Blue states ALSO turn red and vote for him. Scarey stuff.

All we need is another generation of "Ray-Gun Democrats" that push the party further to the right.

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