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BlueCaliDem
(15,438 posts)This is the first time I've read that Kenya didn't exist at the time President Obama was born. You'd think those American "journalists" would dig to find out where the Birthers got their crap from. But no.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)petronius
(26,608 posts)Has anyone seen Kenya's birth certificate? Why not, hmmm?
annabanana
(52,791 posts)brush
(53,960 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
mindwalker_i
(4,407 posts)progressoid
(50,009 posts)I betcha them Ruskies were involved somehows.
phantom power
(25,966 posts)Johnny Noshoes
(1,977 posts)sakabatou
(42,195 posts)chknltl
(10,558 posts)You heard it here first Alex Jones fans!
NBachers
(17,159 posts)meow2u3
(24,775 posts)Does a bear shit on the city streets?
cer7711
(502 posts)Just sayin.'
Of course birtherism is patent nonsense, but be careful a right-winger doesn't try and trick you up with this fact.
It was British East AFrica from the late 1800s to 1920, then "The Colony of Kenya" until 1964, when this region then became the free and independent republic of Kenya.
7962
(11,841 posts)Th names are too similar. They wont care. But if they insist that the Hawaiian BC is a fake, then why CANT the "Kenyan" one also be a fake???
pangaia
(24,324 posts)!- His skin is black, so he could not be born in Hawai'i, which as we all know has white people and... oopps?
2- His skin is black. Therefore he was born in Kenya because Kenya is in the country of Africa, and that is where people with black skin come from....??
7962
(11,841 posts)Mopar151
(10,006 posts)Which is meaningless to those who understand what a fact is. Those other kind of goobers have little regard or care for facts - they see them all as talking points - the kind of folks who would verify a gage block with a yardstick.
treestar
(82,383 posts)by claiming Obama owes allegiance to the British crown or some such shit. The smarter the birther is, the crazier.
marble falls
(57,408 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)watoos
(7,142 posts)that this will change their mind?
tclambert
(11,087 posts)The Crown Colony remained under British rule until 1962. From 1962 to 1964, Kenya morphed into a Commonwealth Realm (kinda like Canada and Australia) then into a completely independent republic.
In 1961, Kenya was the Crown Colony of Kenya. Mombasa was in a section along the coast known as the Protectorate of Kenya.
hack89
(39,171 posts)It is not correct.
AAO
(3,300 posts)Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)
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allan01
(1,950 posts)fascisthunter
(29,381 posts)the statement at the end gives the idiots another out. Yes, they do believe the media is really "liberal".
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Fox, Limpballs, Handjob and all teabaggers everywhere are GOOD WITH IT, why that mouth drooling idiot is the next Pres!
OTOH...black President born in Hawaii??
IMPEACH THE non-NBC USURPER!!!!
I hate the stinking hypocrites of the right!
riverbendviewgal
(4,254 posts)And for all the public to view in the newspapers and online and TV. Canada is a sensible country and gives one when a formal request is made. One is not made to feel like a criminal. Many Canadians were born in the USA like Cruz and they have a terrible, expensive process to renounce US citizenship.
See this link
isaacbrocksociety.ca
They are not tax evaders but are treated as so. There are about a millon American persons in Canada and millons more around the the world. Some members of congress would like to keep them from entering the USA and want those who renounce US citizenship to be considered as traitors.
Not everyone wants to be American, just like cruz does not want to be Canadian.
195 countries in the world. 2 are citizen based taxation,the rest are resident based taxation. The USA and Eritrea are CBT.
Many American duals all over the world are now renouncing, in record numbers.
This birther issue has brought forth the regression of the USA. Canada does not have such intense hatred and devision like the USA.
kentuck
(111,110 posts)Kenya did not become a country until December of 1963, two years after the "Kenyan" was born.
It wasn't two years, it was 24 business hours.
And who cares, are you trying to say it was part of the USA? Either way, if the BC was wrong, it's still wrong. I could care less but I did notice a lot of people whining about Mclame being born in the canal zone; I guess it was important then and whose ox was being gored.
I guess hypocrisy exists in all parties.
Where you been hiding all my life??
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)loudsue
(14,087 posts)The BC wasn't wrong. Never was.
Go Vols
(5,902 posts)is worth a kick.
Info gets a rec.
former9thward
(32,117 posts)For those who think it is try and locate a 1950s Encyclopedia somewhere and look at an African map. You will see it says "Colony of Kenya". It was known as Kenya from 1895 on although it was part of the East Africa Protectorate. It became the Colony of Kenya in 1920 and Kenya in 1963.
Why anybody cares about the birther crap at this stage of the game I don't know.
Rhiannon12866
(206,520 posts)Though there were yearly update books, I think the last president in the original was Nixon. My grandmother visited Kenya, but that would have been in the '70s. She took a photo of Kenyatta in a parade and had to hide from police since that was prohibited...
former9thward
(32,117 posts)It is called "Kenya". http://www.maps.com/map.aspx?pid=15853
ThomThom
(1,486 posts)And what was the issuers printed name on it? Kenya or Colony of Kenya or British East Africa or was it just British? Compare a real certificate to the one Trump was waving around. Show the real facts please.
former9thward
(32,117 posts)There is no birth certificate so it does not matter what an official certificate from Kenya would say. And it was part of the East Africa Protectorate -- not British East Africa. The OP got that wrong also.
Here is a National Geographic map of Africa from 1960. It is called "Kenya". http://www.maps.com/map.aspx?pid=15853
ThomThom
(1,486 posts)an interest or knowledge to help put it rest. This whole thing should have ended long ago but here it is again. You try to correct the poster and even offer a map and now you don't care. Sorry I responded to you, go back to whatever you were doing if you are not going to help.
former9thward
(32,117 posts)I dug up a map from 1960. Which should put an end to at least one part of the question. As far as the BC how the hell is anyone going to know what a pre-1963 Kenya BC would look like? The internet can only do so much...
I don't care in the sense that 1) there is convincing proof Obama was born in Hawaii and 2) it matters not where he was born. Obama could have been born on Mars and it would not matter because it is beyond dispute he was born to a U.S.citizen. The law is if you are born to a U.S. citizen you are a natural born U.S. citizen with all the privileges and headaches that may bring.
azureblue
(2,155 posts)are proud of their ignorance and cling to it with all their strength.
AndyA
(16,993 posts)The crazy people on the right never let a little thing like facts get in the way.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)No American woman in my generation would have gone to Kenya to have a baby unless maybe she was a missionary's wife. Even then I don't think any of us would have gone.
Kenya had just recently been in the throes of a revolution. Unthinkable that a young American woman no older than Obama's mother was would have gone to Kenya to have a baby there. No way. If one had, people who knew her would have remembered it. Indonesia a few years later was a possibility. But Kenya, no. Not until a few years later.
krispos42
(49,445 posts)IMPEACH IMPEACH Ted Cruz 2016 IMPEACH IMPEACH Forget that he was born in Canada! THE FOREIGNER!!!
SalmonChantedEvening
(31,953 posts)Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)steve2470
(37,457 posts)Tanelorn
(359 posts)Obama is a British citizen
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)And their wear tri-cornered hats
area51
(11,933 posts)these same dickheads have no trouble with someone who actually was born in another country -- Canadian citizen Ted Cruz -- trying to become president.
Heather MC
(8,084 posts)I posted this on my FB page. moments later a Tea Turd "friend" posted that the name of the hospital on President Obama's birth Certificate did not exist until 1974
I did a google search and found that to has been debunked.
I guess he is in bed now because he has not responded. Truth doesn't matter to people who live in their bubble of belief
The Wizard
(12,552 posts)needs an enema.
KansDem
(28,498 posts)Also why they tagged themselves with the moniker "TeaBagger." A 30-second search would have told them about the practice of "teabagging" but they were too stupid to conduct such a search.
Now they get pissed off when you refer to them as "TeaBaggers"...
former9thward
(32,117 posts)National Geographic map of Africa 1960. http://www.maps.com/map.aspx?pid=15853