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HEY BIRTHER DICKHEADS (Original Post) WilliamPitt Nov 2013 OP
facts have no standing in their hatred. spanone Nov 2013 #1
Facts have no standing in American Corporate Media. BlueCaliDem Nov 2013 #53
HA, It really is beneficial for us that our opposition are idiots NightWatcher Nov 2013 #2
How could anyone know when Kenya came into existence? petronius Nov 2013 #3
LOL! PrestonLocke Nov 2013 #7
DUzy!! . . . .n/t annabanana Nov 2013 #24
I wanna see the long form. nt brush Nov 2013 #38
k&r for the truth. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #4
Stop confusing the issues with facts mindwalker_i Nov 2013 #5
So now we need to see Kenya's birth certificate!11! progressoid Nov 2013 #6
duzy ^^ phantom power Nov 2013 #8
nt. Johnny Noshoes Nov 2013 #9
When it comes to these asshats, the facts don't matter to them sakabatou Nov 2013 #10
Yeah but how do we know Kenya wasn't born in Hawaii? chknltl Nov 2013 #11
Will this inconvenient truth penetrate the teabaggers' fecal brain matter? NBachers Nov 2013 #12
Does the sun rise in the west? meow2u3 Nov 2013 #27
Careful! It was "The Colony of Kenya" from 1920 till Independence: Dec. 1964 cer7711 Nov 2013 #13
If thats true, then they wouldnt listen to anything having to do with 1964 7962 Nov 2013 #19
Here's the reason. pangaia Nov 2013 #25
I guess that possible since they think it was 1864 instead of 1964! 7962 Nov 2013 #36
That's a perfectly good ARGUMENT Mopar151 Nov 2013 #50
This is true. In fact, the really sophisticated ones think they have even more of a case treestar Nov 2013 #57
Finally a stake to the heart of birtherism. Can't believe some one didn't note this earlier. marble falls Nov 2013 #14
Right? WilliamPitt Nov 2013 #15
Does anyone really think watoos Nov 2013 #16
British East Africa (East Africa Protectorate) became Kenya Crown Colony in 1920. tclambert Nov 2013 #17
You should fact check your OP hack89 Nov 2013 #18
Unreal. n/t AAO Nov 2013 #20
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #21
re:HEY BIRTHER DICKHEADS allan01 Nov 2013 #22
Excellent, except for one part fascisthunter Nov 2013 #23
Cruz was born in Canada workinclasszero Nov 2013 #26
I want see Cruz's Canadian citizen renouncement papers shown to the media riverbendviewgal Nov 2013 #51
That's right! kentuck Nov 2013 #28
Wrong! ryan_cats Nov 2013 #30
??? kentuck Nov 2013 #32
Are you a "birther"? Enthusiast Nov 2013 #43
Hmmm. You might be on the wrong site. loudsue Nov 2013 #58
Title alone Go Vols Nov 2013 #29
The OP is untrue. former9thward Nov 2013 #31
I'll have to check my parents' encyclopedia Rhiannon12866 Nov 2013 #35
This is a map of Africa from the National Geographic 1960. former9thward Nov 2013 #55
So who issued the birth certificates, the British or the colony? ThomThom Nov 2013 #49
Who knows and who cares? former9thward Nov 2013 #54
You responded to the post, I know you didn't start the thread but I thought you might have ThomThom Nov 2013 #59
Not going to help? former9thward Nov 2013 #60
but birthers azureblue Nov 2013 #33
Facts: a foreign concept to birthers AndyA Nov 2013 #34
Yes. I am just about the age that Obama's mother would have been had she lived. JDPriestly Nov 2013 #37
So he's a British national? krispos42 Nov 2013 #39
BURMA! SalmonChantedEvening Nov 2013 #40
SHAVE! Major Hogwash Nov 2013 #41
ON SALE AT NEXT GAS STATION ! nt steve2470 Nov 2013 #44
OMG it's worse than I thought Tanelorn Nov 2013 #42
The red coats are coming, The red coats are coming Heather MC Nov 2013 #47
And of course, area51 Nov 2013 #45
FB Tea turd said Heather MC Nov 2013 #46
The Republican Party The Wizard Nov 2013 #48
"...dummies who couldn't use Google." KansDem Nov 2013 #52
When you use google it comes up Kenya. former9thward Nov 2013 #56
K&R rudolph the red Nov 2013 #61

BlueCaliDem

(15,438 posts)
53. Facts have no standing in American Corporate Media.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 10:26 AM
Nov 2013

This is the first time I've read that Kenya didn't exist at the time President Obama was born. You'd think those American "journalists" would dig to find out where the Birthers got their crap from. But no.

petronius

(26,608 posts)
3. How could anyone know when Kenya came into existence?
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 05:02 PM
Nov 2013

Has anyone seen Kenya's birth certificate? Why not, hmmm?



cer7711

(502 posts)
13. Careful! It was "The Colony of Kenya" from 1920 till Independence: Dec. 1964
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:08 PM
Nov 2013

Just sayin.'

Of course birtherism is patent nonsense, but be careful a right-winger doesn't try and trick you up with this fact.

It was British East AFrica from the late 1800s to 1920, then "The Colony of Kenya" until 1964, when this region then became the free and independent republic of Kenya.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
19. If thats true, then they wouldnt listen to anything having to do with 1964
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:44 PM
Nov 2013

Th names are too similar. They wont care. But if they insist that the Hawaiian BC is a fake, then why CANT the "Kenyan" one also be a fake???

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
25. Here's the reason.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 07:35 PM
Nov 2013

!- His skin is black, so he could not be born in Hawai'i, which as we all know has white people and... oopps?

2- His skin is black. Therefore he was born in Kenya because Kenya is in the country of Africa, and that is where people with black skin come from....??

Mopar151

(10,006 posts)
50. That's a perfectly good ARGUMENT
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 08:59 AM
Nov 2013

Which is meaningless to those who understand what a fact is. Those other kind of goobers have little regard or care for facts - they see them all as talking points - the kind of folks who would verify a gage block with a yardstick.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
57. This is true. In fact, the really sophisticated ones think they have even more of a case
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 10:34 AM
Nov 2013

by claiming Obama owes allegiance to the British crown or some such shit. The smarter the birther is, the crazier.

tclambert

(11,087 posts)
17. British East Africa (East Africa Protectorate) became Kenya Crown Colony in 1920.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 06:38 PM
Nov 2013

The Crown Colony remained under British rule until 1962. From 1962 to 1964, Kenya morphed into a Commonwealth Realm (kinda like Canada and Australia) then into a completely independent republic.

In 1961, Kenya was the Crown Colony of Kenya. Mombasa was in a section along the coast known as the Protectorate of Kenya.

Response to WilliamPitt (Original post)

 

fascisthunter

(29,381 posts)
23. Excellent, except for one part
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 07:27 PM
Nov 2013

the statement at the end gives the idiots another out. Yes, they do believe the media is really "liberal".

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
26. Cruz was born in Canada
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 07:40 PM
Nov 2013

Fox, Limpballs, Handjob and all teabaggers everywhere are GOOD WITH IT, why that mouth drooling idiot is the next Pres!

OTOH...black President born in Hawaii??

IMPEACH THE non-NBC USURPER!!!!

I hate the stinking hypocrites of the right!

riverbendviewgal

(4,254 posts)
51. I want see Cruz's Canadian citizen renouncement papers shown to the media
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 09:24 AM
Nov 2013

And for all the public to view in the newspapers and online and TV. Canada is a sensible country and gives one when a formal request is made. One is not made to feel like a criminal. Many Canadians were born in the USA like Cruz and they have a terrible, expensive process to renounce US citizenship.

See this link
isaacbrocksociety.ca

They are not tax evaders but are treated as so. There are about a millon American persons in Canada and millons more around the the world. Some members of congress would like to keep them from entering the USA and want those who renounce US citizenship to be considered as traitors.

Not everyone wants to be American, just like cruz does not want to be Canadian.

195 countries in the world. 2 are citizen based taxation,the rest are resident based taxation. The USA and Eritrea are CBT.

Many American duals all over the world are now renouncing, in record numbers.

This birther issue has brought forth the regression of the USA. Canada does not have such intense hatred and devision like the USA.

kentuck

(111,110 posts)
28. That's right!
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:32 PM
Nov 2013

Kenya did not become a country until December of 1963, two years after the "Kenyan" was born.

ryan_cats

(2,061 posts)
30. Wrong!
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:50 PM
Nov 2013
Kenya did not become a country until December of 1963, two years after the "Kenyan" was born
It wasn't two years, it was 24 business hours.

And who cares, are you trying to say it was part of the USA? Either way, if the BC was wrong, it's still wrong. I could care less but I did notice a lot of people whining about Mclame being born in the canal zone; I guess it was important then and whose ox was being gored.

I guess hypocrisy exists in all parties.

former9thward

(32,117 posts)
31. The OP is untrue.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:51 PM
Nov 2013

For those who think it is try and locate a 1950s Encyclopedia somewhere and look at an African map. You will see it says "Colony of Kenya". It was known as Kenya from 1895 on although it was part of the East Africa Protectorate. It became the Colony of Kenya in 1920 and Kenya in 1963.

Why anybody cares about the birther crap at this stage of the game I don't know.

Rhiannon12866

(206,520 posts)
35. I'll have to check my parents' encyclopedia
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:46 PM
Nov 2013

Though there were yearly update books, I think the last president in the original was Nixon. My grandmother visited Kenya, but that would have been in the '70s. She took a photo of Kenyatta in a parade and had to hide from police since that was prohibited...

ThomThom

(1,486 posts)
49. So who issued the birth certificates, the British or the colony?
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 08:47 AM
Nov 2013

And what was the issuers printed name on it? Kenya or Colony of Kenya or British East Africa or was it just British? Compare a real certificate to the one Trump was waving around. Show the real facts please.

former9thward

(32,117 posts)
54. Who knows and who cares?
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 10:30 AM
Nov 2013

There is no birth certificate so it does not matter what an official certificate from Kenya would say. And it was part of the East Africa Protectorate -- not British East Africa. The OP got that wrong also.

Here is a National Geographic map of Africa from 1960. It is called "Kenya". http://www.maps.com/map.aspx?pid=15853

ThomThom

(1,486 posts)
59. You responded to the post, I know you didn't start the thread but I thought you might have
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 05:32 PM
Nov 2013

an interest or knowledge to help put it rest. This whole thing should have ended long ago but here it is again. You try to correct the poster and even offer a map and now you don't care. Sorry I responded to you, go back to whatever you were doing if you are not going to help.

former9thward

(32,117 posts)
60. Not going to help?
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 05:43 PM
Nov 2013

I dug up a map from 1960. Which should put an end to at least one part of the question. As far as the BC how the hell is anyone going to know what a pre-1963 Kenya BC would look like? The internet can only do so much...

I don't care in the sense that 1) there is convincing proof Obama was born in Hawaii and 2) it matters not where he was born. Obama could have been born on Mars and it would not matter because it is beyond dispute he was born to a U.S.citizen. The law is if you are born to a U.S. citizen you are a natural born U.S. citizen with all the privileges and headaches that may bring.

AndyA

(16,993 posts)
34. Facts: a foreign concept to birthers
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:17 PM
Nov 2013

The crazy people on the right never let a little thing like facts get in the way.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
37. Yes. I am just about the age that Obama's mother would have been had she lived.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 11:20 PM
Nov 2013

No American woman in my generation would have gone to Kenya to have a baby unless maybe she was a missionary's wife. Even then I don't think any of us would have gone.

Kenya had just recently been in the throes of a revolution. Unthinkable that a young American woman no older than Obama's mother was would have gone to Kenya to have a baby there. No way. If one had, people who knew her would have remembered it. Indonesia a few years later was a possibility. But Kenya, no. Not until a few years later.

krispos42

(49,445 posts)
39. So he's a British national?
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 12:15 AM
Nov 2013

IMPEACH IMPEACH Ted Cruz 2016 IMPEACH IMPEACH Forget that he was born in Canada! THE FOREIGNER!!!






area51

(11,933 posts)
45. And of course,
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 03:35 AM
Nov 2013

these same dickheads have no trouble with someone who actually was born in another country -- Canadian citizen Ted Cruz -- trying to become president.

 

Heather MC

(8,084 posts)
46. FB Tea turd said
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 04:02 AM
Nov 2013

I posted this on my FB page. moments later a Tea Turd "friend" posted that the name of the hospital on President Obama's birth Certificate did not exist until 1974

I did a google search and found that to has been debunked.

I guess he is in bed now because he has not responded. Truth doesn't matter to people who live in their bubble of belief

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
52. "...dummies who couldn't use Google."
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 09:43 AM
Nov 2013

Also why they tagged themselves with the moniker "TeaBagger." A 30-second search would have told them about the practice of "teabagging" but they were too stupid to conduct such a search.

Now they get pissed off when you refer to them as "TeaBaggers"...

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