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niyad

(113,597 posts)
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:41 PM Nov 2013

TX dem eddie lucio introduces bill FORCING pre-abortion adoption course

(sorry I missed this first time around, but, since he intends to keep introducing this nonsense, felt it was important)

Texas Democrat Eddie Lucio Introduces Bill Forcing A Pre-Abortion Adoption Course– Tell Him What You Think


Unfortunately, American women have come to expect very little support from Republican legislators, especially the Texas GOP. From equal pay to reproductive rights, it is obvious the GOP wants to control women. To them we are baby machines who should not have the right to earn as much for the same work. They want to inject their personal, controlling agendas into our uteruses. How very small government of them.

The nightmare scenario is Democrats hopping on board the misogyny train. And we are seeing this with Texas State Sen. Eddie Lucio, D-Brownsville. Lucio filed Senate Bill 42 which would require women who are seeking an abortion to take an in-person or online “adoption education course ” and present a certificate of completion to her doctor to be cleared for an abortion. In other words, a permission slip. This is making the assumption that women are unable to make their OWN decisions regarding their bodies and their choices as patients. Where is the concern for men? Where is the legislation saying a man would have to attend classes or undergo a psychological exam before he can get a prescription for Viagra? Evidently, Lucio thinks men are more than capable of making up their own minds about their PRIVATE health care. Women, not so much.

“It is my hope that, when presented with more information on adoption resources and services available, more pregnancies can be carried to term,” Lucio said. “I am fully aware that this bill, filed on the last day of the second special legislative session, will not immediately pass; however, I intend to continue advocating adoption as an alternative.”

I contacted Lucio’s office and spoke with a staffer named Daniel Collins. I alerted him to the fact I was recording the phone call and I asked why this legislation was created and why aren’t men being forced to take classes. He offered to send a copy of the press release in an email, but didn’t feel comfortable providing me with his email address over the phone - which is public information - for fear he would get thousands of emails. I explained I would have his email if he EMAILED me. I also explained that the fact he was worried about hearing back from thousands of angry voters might be a clue that this legislation is a blatant attack on women’s reproductive rights, only worse because it’s coming from a Democrat.


He is unabashedly straightforward about being a devout Roman Catholic, but that has put him in the limelight due to media reports from across the state and country accusing him of putting his faith before his constituents during the Legislature’s special sessions this summer.\\. . . .

@SenatorLucio

Eddie Lucio’s Facebook page: HERE

Lucio’s official website: HERE

Contact information:

Eddie Lucio, Jr.
P.O. Box 12068
Capitol Station
Austin, Texas 78711
(512) 463-0127
(512) 463-0061 Fax

http://samuel-warde.com/2013/07/texas-democrat-eddie-lucio-introduces-bill-forcing-a-pre-abortion-adoption-course-tell-him-what-you-think/


Texas Democrat isn't giving up on abortion class
Published August 03, 2013
Associated Press
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AUSTIN, Texas – The lone Democrat in the Texas Senate who backed the state's new abortion laws says he'll keep pushing for women to be required to complete an adoption course before terminating a pregnancy.

Sen. Eddie Lucio first proposed the measure in July, when Republican Gov. Rick Perry and GOP leaders made good on vows to pass tighter abortion restrictions previously stalled by an 11-hour Democratic filibuster and hundreds of shouting protesters.
The new laws ban abortions after 20 weeks in Texas and only allow the procedure in surgical centers. But Lucio wants the state to go further and mandate that women seeking an abortion complete a short course that would lay out options for putting the child up for adoption.
Critics call Lucio's proposal simplistic and burdensome. The Brownsville lawmaker told the Austin American-Statesman that the requirement could help prevent more abortions.

"This is just one way I think I can really help do that," Lucio said. "We're not trying to hurt the mother, we're trying to help the unborn be born. I want to give them a chance to live."
Leaders of two anti-abortion groups, Texas Right to Life and Texas Alliance for Life, said they knew of no similar laws in other states.
. . . . .

If it doesn't come up, Lucio said he would refile his bill again early in the 2015 session.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/03/texas-democrat-isnt-giving-up-on-abortion-class/

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TX dem eddie lucio introduces bill FORCING pre-abortion adoption course (Original Post) niyad Nov 2013 OP
texas democrat...oxymoron. spanone Nov 2013 #1
wendy davis? ann richards? molly ivins? barbara jordan? lbj? niyad Nov 2013 #2
ok, you named all four. 'twas just a joke. spanone Nov 2013 #5
I know--just could not resist! niyad Nov 2013 #7
IF the GOP really wanted a lower abortion rate then they'd support FREE or affordable contraceptives Tx4obama Nov 2013 #3
see, there you go, insisting on logic in a situation. you also forgot to add, excellent sex ed. niyad Nov 2013 #4
I'm sick and tired of wing-nuts spouting a non-existent link to abortion & adoption me b zola Nov 2013 #6
thank you as well. it is important that these woman-haters hear from those most affected. niyad Nov 2013 #8
DINO blkmusclmachine Nov 2013 #9
This is terrible. And even worse that it's not surprising. Reproductive choice has been under attack PeaceNikki Nov 2013 #10
Can poll tests for women be far behind? Coulter has said for years they shouldn't be allowed to vote freshwest Nov 2013 #11
Was Coulter including herself in that statement? sheshe2 Nov 2013 #15
Her targets are liberals, progressives and Democrats. Said that proved they are incapable. freshwest Nov 2013 #16
That sounds about right. sheshe2 Nov 2013 #17
Eddie was not elected to serve his religious views, sheshe2 Nov 2013 #12
With fiends like him, Aristus Nov 2013 #13
wow. Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #14
This stupidity would cease if men could get pregnant seveneyes Nov 2013 #18
JESUS CHRIST I am sick of men telling women what to do with their bodies MadrasT Nov 2013 #19
according to him, he is doing this in jesus' name, because he is such a good catholic. niyad Nov 2013 #20
. . . niyad Nov 2013 #21

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
3. IF the GOP really wanted a lower abortion rate then they'd support FREE or affordable contraceptives
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:52 PM
Nov 2013

But they do NOT.



me b zola

(19,053 posts)
6. I'm sick and tired of wing-nuts spouting a non-existent link to abortion & adoption
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 08:57 PM
Nov 2013

I'm also beyond sick and tired of them using adoptees in their anti-choice views. When I found the adoptee rights movement a few years ago I was surprised that there were other adoptees who, like me, had at times wished that they had been aborted.

Thank you for the links, he'll be hearing from me.

PeaceNikki

(27,985 posts)
10. This is terrible. And even worse that it's not surprising. Reproductive choice has been under attack
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:22 PM
Nov 2013

for years. And it's why I am so passionate about language and stigmatizing.

Liberals have never won anything by reframing moral questions as pragmatic ones; they end up looking shifty and evasive. Whatever else it has been doing, the Supreme Court has always framed its decisions about the legality of abortion in moral terms. The decision in Roe to protect women's reproductive choices grew out of earlier cases protecting ordinary means of birth control as a matter of "privacy." It was only over the course of its long philosophical evolution on abortion that the court silently changed the meaning of privacy from the morally neutral secrecy to autonomy, a moral claim for the individual's right to shape her own life.

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
11. Can poll tests for women be far behind? Coulter has said for years they shouldn't be allowed to vote
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 09:55 PM
Nov 2013

sheshe2

(83,940 posts)
15. Was Coulter including herself in that statement?
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:04 PM
Nov 2013

Seriously, she does not believe that she should be voting? Or is it just the poor and middle class women.

She's freshwest~

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
16. Her targets are liberals, progressives and Democrats. Said that proved they are incapable.
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:13 PM
Nov 2013
Now, if they just would vote the *right way* they should be *allowed.*

Give up the freedom to think. We already told you what to think, but you didn't obey. Therefore, you are unqualified to vote!





sheshe2

(83,940 posts)
12. Eddie was not elected to serve his religious views,
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:01 PM
Nov 2013

to the women of Texas. He was elected to serve the views of his constituents and that includes the women. Guess what Eddie, they don't agree with you!

Peace niyad.

 

seveneyes

(4,631 posts)
18. This stupidity would cease if men could get pregnant
Fri Nov 8, 2013, 10:34 PM
Nov 2013

I thought I had heard it all but this moron takes it home. I won't say what medical procedure should be put upon him.

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
19. JESUS CHRIST I am sick of men telling women what to do with their bodies
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 03:24 AM
Nov 2013

Fuck that asshole and his prescriptive paternalistic bullshit.

niyad

(113,597 posts)
20. according to him, he is doing this in jesus' name, because he is such a good catholic.
Sat Nov 9, 2013, 12:44 PM
Nov 2013

I am with you--these bastards are still trying to run a world where women are silent, and meek, and obedient little slaves and brood mares.

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