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Digby: Lara Logan in Her Own Words on Her World View

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Sunday, November 10, 2013

Lara Logan in her own words

10/2/2012

by digby

Here are her comments on Benghazi from that speech to the Better Government Association's annual luncheon October 12, 2012, one month after the Benghazi attack:

When I look at what's happening in Libya, there's a big song and dance about whether this was a terrorist attack or a protest. And you just want to scream, for God's sake, are you kidding me? The last time we were attacked like this was the USS Cole which was a prelude to 9/11. And you're sending in the FBI to investigate? I hope to God that you are sending in your best clandestine warriors to exact revenge and let the world know that the United States will not be attacked on its own soil, its ambassadors will not be murdered and the United States will not stand by and do nothing about it.

Here's the whole speech which is mostly about journalism and her recent report from Afghanistan in which she asserted that al Qaeda and the Taliban were stronger than ever, the US was "surrendering" and that "our way of life is under attack" among many other very interesting observations. You really must watch the whole thing to get a sense of where she's coming from.

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Needless to say, the fact that she fell for such a clearly ridiculous hoax was due to her biases. She shows in that speech that she had already made up her mind about what happened. And 60 Minutes should have been professionally skeptical of her story because of that. Logan's agenda blinded her to the fact that she was being played.

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I also think there's something very odd about this speech. Logan is talking to the "Better Government Association" not CPAC. And her affect suggests that she thinks her views are commonly held conventional wisdom, which might have been true in 2003, but seems weirdly out of time ten years on.

It's an odd speech and it was noted at the time as an odd speech:

(T)he foreign correspondent and 60 Minutes star skewered American policy in Afghanistan and Libya, called for a ramped-up military campaign against terrorists, and criticized the Obama administration and others for both underestimating the Taliban’s strength in Afghanistan and for tolerating Pakistan’s obvious coddling of terrorists killing American soldiers.

The Taliban and al Qaeda, she made clear, “want to destroy the West and us,” and we must fight fire with fire, She appeared to leave the assembled alternatively riveted and just a bit troubled by a critique with interventionist implications clearly drawn from her reporting.

As one nonprofit executive, a former magazine editor, put it the next day when asked to describe her speech: “Shoot ’em, bomb ’em, fuck ’em. They will kill your children.”

There is a rich history of foreign correspondents being outspoken and passionate in offering political commentary, especially those who have been caught in harm’s way. Logan herself was a victim of brutality; in 2011 the South Africa native was beaten and sexually assaulted by a mob in Cairo’s Tahrir Square while she covered the demonstrations prompted by President Hosni Mubarak’s resignation. Such a harrowing experience would surely impact even the most politically cautious of journalists. Still, the sharp advocacy from such a prominent network reporter caught some in the Chicago crowd by surprise.

I have no idea if any of this was prompted by her horrible attack. But I do recall that even before that awful event, she was very critical of Michael Hastings' "betrayal" of General McChrystal. She has revered the military for a long time and even her critical reporting on Iraq earlier in the decade was criticism for failing to unleash the military in order to "win." I think she has always held these beliefs.

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Reply Digby: Lara Logan in Her Own Words on Her World View (Original post)
Hissyspit Nov 2013 OP
JRLeft Nov 2013 #1
Electric Monk Nov 2013 #18
Solly Mack Nov 2013 #2
JRLeft Nov 2013 #3
rhett o rick Nov 2013 #4
libdem4life Nov 2013 #10
calimary Nov 2013 #13
stillwaiting Nov 2013 #5
spanone Nov 2013 #6
otohara Nov 2013 #7
rhett o rick Nov 2013 #25
SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2013 #8
DefenseLawyer Nov 2013 #20
SleeplessinSoCal Nov 2013 #30
closeupready Nov 2013 #9
JI7 Nov 2013 #31
Iliyah Nov 2013 #11
DallasNE Nov 2013 #12
calimary Nov 2013 #21
DallasNE Nov 2013 #24
calimary Nov 2013 #32
Iliyah Nov 2013 #14
octoberlib Nov 2013 #15
valerief Nov 2013 #17
davidpdx Nov 2013 #28
JEFF9K Nov 2013 #16
dchill Nov 2013 #19
Uncle Joe Nov 2013 #22
paleotn Nov 2013 #23
justgamma Nov 2013 #26
Skittles Nov 2013 #27
noise Nov 2013 #29
Scuba Nov 2013 #33

Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 05:22 PM

1. She's sounds like a Neo-con. By the way she is appears to be very ignorant on the facts.

 

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Response to JRLeft (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 08:17 PM

18. I can see how being gang raped in Egypt might slant one's point of view from then on...

 

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 05:24 PM

2. K&R

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 05:26 PM

3. Some of her words mimic Bill Kristol's.

 

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 05:30 PM

4. Please take the time to send your comments here:

 

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 07:37 PM

10. Thanks for the link. I feel a bit better now.

 

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Response to rhett o rick (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 07:50 PM

13. Just did!

What I wrote:

"Walter Cronkite is surely spinning in his grave! I hope you all intend to correct the record you horrifyingly damaged regarding that Benghazi hit piece on the President. Pretty little biased, agenda-driven Lara swallowed something whole, it seems. Disgraceful that you just allowed it. Can you PLEASE keep CONservative propaganda OUT of a program that's supposed to be objective????????? You should be ashamed of yourselves! And you owe President Obama a DEEP, sincere, and equally-long equal-time apology. Unless, of course, your intention is to become another Fox 'News.'"

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 05:40 PM

5. When she speaks I hear a mockingbird. nt

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 05:42 PM

6. since when do pseudo reporters give speeches on foreign policy? she's not a diplomat

she's not even a reporter.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 05:47 PM

7. Her Call For Retribution

 

after Benghazi is downright outrageous.
Who does she think she is?

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Response to otohara (Reply #7)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 11:47 PM

25. If she is so hot on retribution, how about a little retribution for what she did? nm

 

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 07:31 PM

8. Wonder if she and Christopher Hitchens would have debated or been allies

I don't think Hitchens was ideological, as she obviously is.

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Response to SleeplessinSoCal (Reply #8)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 08:33 PM

20. I always thought that Hitchens saw himself as a modern Orwell

 

Orwell was very anti-fascist. Hitchens seems to have locked on Saddam Hussein was a "fascists dictator" and just as Orwell spoke out against Hitler, he spoke out against Saddam. Of course the comparisons between Hitler and Saddam, in terms of their ability to harm other nations was laughable, but nonetheless I always thought that's how get started down that pro-war path at the end of his career.

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Response to DefenseLawyer (Reply #20)

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 04:27 AM

30. Hitchens got caught in the trap of claiming al qaeda was in Iraq and Saddam was connected

to and had the support of al qaeda. That's where he lost a lot of credibility. And I only hope Logan, who is in no way a "Christopher Hitchens", loses hers.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 07:36 PM

9. Isn't she originally from South Africa?

 

What kind of background does she have?

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Response to closeupready (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 04:38 AM

31. yeah, but her husband is an american govt defense contractor

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 07:43 PM

11. Corporate media - already forgot

just like the "Shutdown". Truth means nothing the gopers.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 07:43 PM

12. Lara Logan, Jonathan Karl = One And The Same

Since there has been no consequences for their corrupt reporting we can only expect this scene to be repeated. And the frequency of this happening is accelerating rapidly. And this race to the bottom is not a pretty sight. Sadly, it is all just one big money chase.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 08:50 PM

21. Did she come up from the Collegiate Network too?

Wouldn't be surprised if there were others. Networks, that is. Not just other reporters. Devious way to distort coverage. School 'em to use YOUR filters. Kinda like the Monica Goodling class at outfits like Regent "University" and Liberty "University" - which teach law through a Biblical filter.

CBS was once referred to as the Tiffany Network - because it was such a high-class operation, its credibility beyond question. Now it's more like Walmart.

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Response to calimary (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 09:54 PM

24. Born And Educated In South Africa

Degree is in commerce so not sure how she migrated into journalism.

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Response to DallasNE (Reply #24)

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 01:24 PM

32. ...but she photographs well.

That's about all you need, anymore.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 07:59 PM

14. They knew it was not fact and still proceeded to

openingly put it on air. No respect for BENGHAZI and no respect to America.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 08:08 PM

15. Surprise, surprise. She's married to a defense contractor.

In 2008 she married Joseph Burkett, a U.S. government defense contractor from Texas, U.S.A. whom she met in Afghanistan.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lara_Logan

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #15)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 08:16 PM

17. Well, that explains a lot. nt

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Response to octoberlib (Reply #15)

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 03:29 AM

28. I just noticed that and was going to post it

Good catch. Makes a lot of sense.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 08:16 PM

16. Putting herself in harm's ways gives her a leg up on 99% of conservatives. ...

... But it's no excuse. Dan Rather also put himself in harm's way.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 08:24 PM

19. "betrayal"

An interesting description of "telling the truth."

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 09:00 PM

22. I have wondered as well whether the hatred from the sexual abuse attack against Logan in Egypt

consumed her rational mind?

I gather she was already pro-war at all costs as being the answer to the world's ills but no doubt the bitterness from that incident erased any sense of journalistic integrity at least in regards to the Middle East and Central Asia.

Thanks for the thread, Hissyspit.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2013, 09:16 PM

23. Attack, bomb, invade....

....don't take any crap from the Pakis, yada yada. Everything can be solved by bombing, invading, killing, destroying and sending other peoples sons and daughters off to die or be maimed as we achieve little or nothing of lasting importance. Have these utter and complete imbeciles like Logan learned nothing from the past decade?

Oh, this is just wonderful...(T)he foreign correspondent and 60 Minutes star skewered American policy in Afghanistan and Libya, called for a ramped-up military campaign against terrorists, and criticized the Obama administration and others for both underestimating the Taliban’s strength in Afghanistan and for tolerating Pakistan’s obvious coddling of terrorists killing American soldiers.

We just didn't have enough troops in The Stan, that's why we weren't "winning" against the Taliban. Lonely fire bases at strategic points in the countryside....more troops....a nearly invisible insurgent enemy....more troops....keeping score by body count...more troops...the bad guys hiding in a nearby, nation state.....if we just had more troops we could win this thing. Forget 2003. Have we suddenly been transported back to 1968 or is it this woman simply has little to no understanding of what I consider recent US history?

How many damn times do we have to repeat Vietnam, Iraq and now Afghanistan before these idiots finally get it?! We cannot bomb our way to security! It just wont work! I don't know, maybe NOT being such international assholes MIGHT actually work. Understanding the strategic, cultural and historical nuances about a place or event and working closely with our allies and other nations involved BEFORE we just dump boots on the ground might be a better strategy. Do ya think?! Bombing the shit out of them doesn't seem to be working.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 12:55 AM

26. Excuse me???

The only times we were attacked was the USS Cole and Benghazi? There were no attacks during the Bush years?

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Response to justgamma (Reply #26)

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 03:14 AM

27. THINK LIKE A TEABAGGER, JUSTGAMMA

THEN YOU'LL UNDERSTAND

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 03:41 AM

29. Logan's worldview appears to be inconsistent

The last time we were attacked like this was the USS Cole which was a prelude to 9/11.


From an article about Logan's story on former FBI agent Ali Soufan. He was in fact investigating the Cole attack when the CIA withheld crucial information about al Qaeda operatives who were later named as Flight 77 hijackers:

But, Soufan says he later learned the CIA knew - eight months before 9/11 - that this same operative had met in Malaysia with two terrorism suspects who would later hijack the plane that crashed into the Pentagon. And the CIA also knew that those two suspects were heading to the U.S.

"The agency knew that these al Qaeda operatives in Southeast Asia flew to America or they have visas to come to the United States, and somebody decided, 'Let's not share the information,'" Soufan said.

"And if it had been shared with you, what then?" Logan asked.

"I try not to think about that. I try not to think about, about what could have happened. Maybe, maybe thousands of American lives will be spared, maybe," Soufan said.

The CIA told us any suggestion it purposely refused to share critical information on the 9/11 plots with FBI is "baseless" and "these allegations diminish the hard work and dedication of countless CIA officers."

The Interrogator


If Logan's worldview was truly consistent she would have been outraged that people at the CIA obstructed the Cole investigation. Instead she appears to have been satisfied with a stupid talking point from a CIA spokesperson denying any wrongdoing.

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Response to Hissyspit (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2013, 03:37 PM

33. Another chickenhawk. She wants to see war so badly, tell her the Marines will take her.

 

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