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mfcorey1

(11,001 posts)
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:09 AM Nov 2013

I am convinced that the remainder of President Obama's term will be peppered

with distractions, some embellished and some generated by the media and the Republicans. One good thing is that legacy is no longer dependent on textbooks from Texas, but a researching generation will be able to use technology to remind them of the obstructions that he faced daily. Some of those things come with the job but the majority of them come with being a minority in the White House. Until the population of this country is purged of the fading remnants of the Sons of the Confederacy, we will never regain our status as a powerful nation. PISSED AND JUST COLLECTING MY THOUGHTS!

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I am convinced that the remainder of President Obama's term will be peppered (Original Post) mfcorey1 Nov 2013 OP
Then he needs to get off his ass and do an LBJ MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #1
Exactamundo. He's got three years to leave a real legacy. Kennedy proposed, LBJ delivered. marble falls Nov 2013 #2
Just collecting my thoughts! mfcorey1 Nov 2013 #3
LBJ was a white man with a larger D majority treestar Nov 2013 #4
And he got Civil Rights and Medicare passed MannyGoldstein Nov 2013 #5
Afraid of what? treestar Nov 2013 #6
On the other hand, hero worship of brave Defenders of the Status Quo truebluegreen Nov 2013 #8
What are you even talking about? treestar Nov 2013 #12
I thought we were talking about making progress. truebluegreen Nov 2013 #14
Manny again avoids your point frazzled Nov 2013 #10
Exactly so being a tough guy who made people "afraid" of him treestar Nov 2013 #11
But I thought he was supposed to be FDR? JoePhilly Nov 2013 #15
yeh, he's always just sitting around on his ass... Whisp Nov 2013 #16
k&r... spanone Nov 2013 #7
I tend to agree with you gopiscrap Nov 2013 #9
It's politics. BKH70041 Nov 2013 #13
 

MannyGoldstein

(34,589 posts)
1. Then he needs to get off his ass and do an LBJ
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 09:25 AM
Nov 2013

Last edited Tue Nov 12, 2013, 10:03 AM - Edit history (1)

As long as he embraces traditional Democratic ideals, as well.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
6. Afraid of what?
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 10:03 AM
Nov 2013

I don't want my legislators "afraid" of the President.

Quit pitting Obama against LBJ.

The hero worship of bullies is sort of concerning, too. Do you admire the mafia?

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
8. On the other hand, hero worship of brave Defenders of the Status Quo
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 10:15 AM
Nov 2013

in a Time of Crisis is totally inspiring.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
12. What are you even talking about?
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 01:38 PM
Nov 2013

Most people will defend a peaceable status quo with peaceable changes made by the legislative process.

 

truebluegreen

(9,033 posts)
14. I thought we were talking about making progress.
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:36 PM
Nov 2013

You seemed, and seem, to be talking about Being Nice to crazy people as a good in itself. After all, that has worked so well in the last 30 or 40 years, and especially the last 10.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
10. Manny again avoids your point
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 11:32 AM
Nov 2013

Yes, Lyndon Johnson did not operate in the same environment we have today. The 88th and 89th Congresses that sat between 1963 and 1967 were overwhelmingly Democratic in both houses when Johnson's signature legislations were passed. Which is not to say the Democrats were overwhelmingly liberal. (But remember, Republicans were also not overwhelmingly conservative.)

Here's the deal (using figures from ends of these terms, rather than beginnings, which reflect lower numbers of Democrats in each case):

88th Congress (Jan 63-Jan 65):
Senate: 65 Democrats, 35 Republicans -- a filibuster-proof majority.
House: 255 Democrats, 177 Republicans

89th Congress (Jan 65-Jan 67)
Senate: 67 Democrats, 33 Republicans -- another filibuster-proof majority
House 289 Democrrats, 136 Republicans


Compare that to Obama's Congresses: the very barest of Democratic majorities in the Senate, but never one that has been filibuster-proof (except for perhaps 2 months at the beginning of his term). An overwhelmingly Republican House that has blocked even what the Senate has managed to eke out with Republican intransigence.



treestar

(82,383 posts)
11. Exactly so being a tough guy who made people "afraid" of him
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 01:37 PM
Nov 2013

wasn't even really necessary. I really hate that idea and it may be slandering LBJ.

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
16. yeh, he's always just sitting around on his ass...
Tue Nov 12, 2013, 05:42 PM
Nov 2013

I'd like to see you and your Group of Moaners do just one days hard work the President has to. You'd collapse.

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