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Boy is Ed pissed at Bill Clinton! (Original Post) G_j Nov 2013 OP
Boy Howdy is he Ever! And so am I! fredamae Nov 2013 #1
A Clinton attacking a Democrat is a stunning move? ieoeja Nov 2013 #33
And that's the DISGUSTING truth. Laelth Nov 2013 #37
Crapping all over the current Dem administration HappyMe Nov 2013 #2
It's just WRONG in more ways than I can count. Laelth Nov 2013 #13
Not jumping on the big dog hate wagon but... Rambis Nov 2013 #3
I'm still pissed about NAFTA. Faux pas Nov 2013 #4
If your pissed about NAFTA you must be really pissed about the TPP Autumn Nov 2013 #12
Then there was the BIG Dog's fredamae Nov 2013 #17
Then there is him teaming up for some juicy Disaster Capitalism Whisp Nov 2013 #34
You are right about that. bklyncowgirl Nov 2013 #18
Beyond pissed about the tpp! Faux pas Nov 2013 #21
I'm pissed that he signed the CFMA of 2000 as well Norbert Nov 2013 #43
Most of the national news stories libodem Nov 2013 #5
The President said he like it being called Obamacare in one of the debates with Romney. nt kelly1mm Nov 2013 #32
And now friends and enemies libodem Nov 2013 #36
He is working to get back into the white house The Straight Story Nov 2013 #6
He's not the only one. GoCubsGo Nov 2013 #7
That should be a good sign that President Clinton is on the wrong side of this issue. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #15
Does Cheney agree with Bill Clinton that the country is better off with ACA? McXorsett Nov 2013 #22
did not like him then, still don't like him now dembotoz Nov 2013 #8
Let me guess. Ed didn't note the positive things Bill Clinton said about ACA? McXorsett Nov 2013 #9
The attack Bill and Hillary squad is in full force and has been so for a long time. Beacool Nov 2013 #11
Does the attack include the two positive things he said about ACA? McXorsett Nov 2013 #20
Bill could say 100 positive things about the administration, Beacool Nov 2013 #25
I agree Skittles Nov 2013 #47
if anyone understands FOX and sound bites G_j Nov 2013 #23
Blah, blah, blah from the usual suspects. Beacool Nov 2013 #10
Blah, blah, blah back at you. HappyMe Nov 2013 #14
I'm plenty tough. Beacool Nov 2013 #26
Do you protest this much when HappyMe Nov 2013 #28
There are plenty of Obama supporters here who stick up for him. Beacool Nov 2013 #30
That's not what I asked. HappyMe Nov 2013 #31
He needs to get over that embarrassing 2008 loss... HijackedLabel Nov 2013 #16
I'd rather he take his golf clubs and go play on another planet. n/t Whisp Nov 2013 #35
This is a joke post, right? Beausoir Nov 2013 #38
LOL, says the poster with the Hillary photo! Biased much? nt Logical Nov 2013 #19
And proud of it!!! Beacool Nov 2013 #27
She will cost us the election! nt Logical Nov 2013 #39
Please........ Beacool Nov 2013 #40
I have to agree with you here. Laelth Nov 2013 #41
Yes, like you know what will happen. n-t Logical Nov 2013 #42
Ed is a usual suspect? G_j Nov 2013 #24
Me too. elleng Nov 2013 #29
Good old, Clinton-style triangulation . . . markpkessinger Nov 2013 #44
Post removed Post removed Nov 2013 #45
He just did the same on his TV show and I arthritisR_US Nov 2013 #46

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
1. Boy Howdy is he Ever! And so am I!
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:26 PM
Nov 2013

This crap could end up Hurting--not helping HRC in the long run..

Stunning move by Clinton

 

ieoeja

(9,748 posts)
33. A Clinton attacking a Democrat is a stunning move?
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 04:25 PM
Nov 2013

They spent more time criticizing the Democratic Congress than the incumbent President Bush during Bill's Presidential run in 1992. I recall the Sunday morning talk shows laughing that President Bush was so ineffectual he could be effectively ignored. And laughing about a Democratic Presidential nominee running a campaign primarily against his own Party.

This is classic Clinton: always the first to attack Democrats.

Then their fans say that we "owe" the nomination to Hillary. Well, I suppose we do. It is really hard to stab yourself in the back. Nice to know we always have the Clintons around to do it for us.


Laelth

(32,017 posts)
37. And that's the DISGUSTING truth.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 04:47 PM
Nov 2013

Triangulation was very costly to liberals and to the Democratic Party.

-Laelth

Rambis

(7,774 posts)
3. Not jumping on the big dog hate wagon but...
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:29 PM
Nov 2013

He was the moving to the center and the downfall of the democratic party IMO

My opinion is not wrong it is my opinion feel free to fuck off if you don't like it-

fredamae

(4,458 posts)
17. Then there was the BIG Dog's
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:59 PM
Nov 2013

Big Move: REPEALING Glass-Steagall---1999 I believe--opening the door Wide for bushco and the 2007/2008 Crash...

Not to mention FCC Telecommunications act of 1996...DOMA and CAFTA etc

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
34. Then there is him teaming up for some juicy Disaster Capitalism
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 04:33 PM
Nov 2013

with the Bushes: Tsunami in Indonesia with the old man and Haiti with the Mass Murdering Chimp.
Let's pray they don't stick their greedy noses into the Phillipines.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/crossover-dreams/the-clinton-bush-haiti-fu_b_778503.html
The Clinton Bush Haiti Fund is Lying to You

And the Iraq war, that Bill continued from Poppy to hand off to the Mass Murdering Chimperor.
Yah, Peace and Prosperity during the Clinton years. But not for Iraqi's. Human rights squeak, sqwack, bla bla, but not for the Iraqi's.

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
18. You are right about that.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:59 PM
Nov 2013

Sometimes, when I'm being particularly cynical, I think that the only reason that the plutocrats allow Democrats to be elected from time to time is to clean up the mess the Republicans made and to pass these trade agreements and other policies beneficial to the rich and harmful to the majority of Amercans that would have no chance under a Republican president.

Norbert

(6,039 posts)
43. I'm pissed that he signed the CFMA of 2000 as well
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 06:52 PM
Nov 2013

We have been paying through the nose in gasoline ever since. Thenks Bill for signing Phelony Phil Gramm's juiced up legislation.

[link:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commodity_Futures_Modernization_Act_of_2000|

libodem

(19,288 posts)
5. Most of the national news stories
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:49 PM
Nov 2013

Were piling on and using Clinton's name, (along with the Republicans) to help bash the ACA, this morning

Ya know what? I'm damned sick of hearing it called Obamacare, too. It's disrespectful and used by Faux and now by all news outlets. It's insulting. Same deal with calling earned benefits......entitlements. Fuck that noise. I'm sick of it.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
36. And now friends and enemies
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 04:45 PM
Nov 2013

Alike use it. I still think it is derogatory.

It's like I say, though, about other name calling, in general, you take the sting out of it by becoming immune to the insulting nature and bucking up.

I'm just feeling sensitive in the president's behalf, cuz I want to protect his integrity.

If he's over it and I'll either get over it or be mad everytime I hear it.

I'll just scratch my mad spot and get glad.

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
6. He is working to get back into the white house
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:52 PM
Nov 2013

I wouldn't be surprised to see more of this over the next couple of years.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
15. That should be a good sign that President Clinton is on the wrong side of this issue. n/t
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:41 PM
Nov 2013


-Laelth
 

McXorsett

(21 posts)
22. Does Cheney agree with Bill Clinton that the country is better off with ACA?
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 03:30 PM
Nov 2013

And does Cheney agree with Bill Clinton in downplaying the faults the health care websites?

It's bad logic to say that all one has to do in order to get everything right is to say the opposite of Dick Cheney says 100% of the time.

Does Obama even disagree with Clinton regarding the people who should keep their insurance?

dembotoz

(16,804 posts)
8. did not like him then, still don't like him now
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 01:56 PM
Nov 2013

oh yes i voted for him in the generals--i am and always will be a dem

but i never liked him

 

McXorsett

(21 posts)
9. Let me guess. Ed didn't note the positive things Bill Clinton said about ACA?
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:13 PM
Nov 2013

Without looking at Ed's transcript, I can guarantee that he did not note that in Clinton's interview, he 1) defended the fautly start of the ACA website by pointing out that these errors happened in Medicare in the 90's and got fixed eventually, and 2) said we are better off with ACA than without it.

But chopping up Clinton's words is necessary in order to throw a misleading rabblerousing cable fit.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
11. The attack Bill and Hillary squad is in full force and has been so for a long time.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:36 PM
Nov 2013

That's why there are few Clinton supporters on this site. I think I need to step away for a while because they are exhausting.

 

McXorsett

(21 posts)
20. Does the attack include the two positive things he said about ACA?
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 03:23 PM
Nov 2013

Or do we set those aside in order to bolster the "full force" argument?

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
25. Bill could say 100 positive things about the administration,
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 04:09 PM
Nov 2013

but they would blast him for the one thing that he may not agree with them. They just can't wait for a chance to go after him.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
10. Blah, blah, blah from the usual suspects.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:32 PM
Nov 2013

Bill defended the ACA, the only comment that wasn't 100% in line with the administration and he gets blasted.

Same crap, different day.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
14. Blah, blah, blah back at you.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:39 PM
Nov 2013

Nobody is above criticism. Not even your holy Clintons.

You had better toughen up, because if your Hillary does get elected she will be criticized the same way any elected official is.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
26. I'm plenty tough.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 04:14 PM
Nov 2013

Many Clinton supporters don't even bother coming to this site. Why would they when it's a hate fest 24/7? The reflexive urge from some to continuously bash them is tiresome.

HappyMe

(20,277 posts)
28. Do you protest this much when
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 04:18 PM
Nov 2013

people bash Obama?

I don't care if Clinton supporters don't come here. Your constant cheerleading is pretty damn tiresome too.

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
30. There are plenty of Obama supporters here who stick up for him.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 04:20 PM
Nov 2013

I stick up for my candidate of choice.

 

HijackedLabel

(80 posts)
16. He needs to get over that embarrassing 2008 loss...
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 02:45 PM
Nov 2013

And start carrying some golf clubs for this administration.

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
41. I have to agree with you here.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 06:14 PM
Nov 2013

I have every reason to believe that Hillary will win if she decides to run and if she wins the nomination.

That said, it's not at all clear, to me, that Hillary wants to run, but pure demographics say we will win no matter whom we nominate.

Thus my desire to recruit Elizabeth Warren.

-Laelth

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