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Blue_Tires

(55,445 posts)
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 08:50 PM Nov 2013

Soccer coach gets jail for raping unconscious girl, 16, at party

A Modesto-area soccer coach was sentenced to one year in jail after pleading no contest to raping one of his 16-year-old players as she lay unconscious at his house party.

The coach, 45-year-old Timothy Lyman of Oakdale, was also sentenced Tuesday to three years probation and will be required to register as a sex offender for life.

“Whoever would do this to a 16-year-old girl is just sick,” the girl’s father said, according to Stanislaus County Deputy District Atty. Annette Rees. “This devastated my family. Lots of sleepless nights for my daughter. Sleepless nights for myself. It’s just sick."

Oakdale police said Lyman had sex with the teen Dec. 27 last year after she passed out in his home, where he was hosting a holiday party. Lyman, who was the only adult at the party, allegedly furnished alcohol to underage drinkers, including the victim, the Bee reported.

Prosecutors argued in court that the girl was intoxicated when she fell asleep on a bed. The girl testified that she awoke to find Lyman having sex with her. She told the court she was in a state of shock as Lyman continued while she was awake, the Bee reported.

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-soccer-coach-jail-rape-teen-player-20131113,0,934637.story


A year for rape? I thought you could get a year *just* for providing liquor to minors??

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Soccer coach gets jail for raping unconscious girl, 16, at party (Original Post) Blue_Tires Nov 2013 OP
I feel absolutely sick when I read"had sex with the teen". Happyhippychick Nov 2013 #1
While she was unconsciousX3. After he got her drunkX3. She is a minorX3. He's an authority figureX3. freshwest Nov 2013 #48
One year? gollygee Nov 2013 #2
point on. he was fucking raping the GIRL. GIRL. an old fuckin man fucking a girl. rape. seabeyond Nov 2013 #5
no shit arely staircase Nov 2013 #7
That is ridiculous rudolph the red Nov 2013 #3
This mythology Nov 2013 #40
a year.... for fuckin rape. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #4
amazing, isn't it? arely staircase Nov 2013 #13
truly blows my mind. an open and shut case like this and a year. says a hell of a lot. seabeyond Nov 2013 #14
Rape is just barely illegal gollygee Nov 2013 #16
meh... we should all feel better and not talk about it cause the numbers shown to us, seabeyond Nov 2013 #18
imagine the trouble he would be in if he had sold her some pot instead of raping her nt arely staircase Nov 2013 #22
true that. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #25
I read a thread a few hours ago gollygee Nov 2013 #28
^ this ^ defacto7 Nov 2013 #53
yup arely staircase Nov 2013 #20
i waz just whiney about.... where is my snow. i want some snow. i love the snow. lol. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #23
a friend from pampa once told me arely staircase Nov 2013 #27
lol. as the wind is a howling. yes sir. lol. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #35
He should be put in jail for much longer. How can anyone have sex with a person that bluestate10 Nov 2013 #6
he didnt "have sex" with her. he raped her. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #12
He should have a penectomy followed by life in prison. undeterred Nov 2013 #8
"Oakdale police said Lyman had sex with the teen Dec. 27"...no, he raped her. Lars39 Nov 2013 #9
here is the ugly ass bottom feeder. seabeyond Nov 2013 #10
Holy Mother of God! Brigid Nov 2013 #15
Damn, no wonder he is raping unconscious girls!! Beacool Nov 2013 #24
This appears to be his F-book page....a disgusting mix of CHRISTIANITY , WWE and bad food. pkdu Nov 2013 #29
it looks like the rapist has a daughter or two. nt seabeyond Nov 2013 #36
fucking piece of shit JI7 Nov 2013 #30
One fucking year? City Lights Nov 2013 #11
What in fucking-fuck? Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #17
Its called RAPE!!!!! Beacool Nov 2013 #19
He must also be a banker? RobertEarl Nov 2013 #21
how is it just 1 year ? JI7 Nov 2013 #26
...Confessed to RAPE would be a factual headline. elehhhhna Nov 2013 #31
That isn't justice; it's a mockery. dawg Nov 2013 #32
Were it my daughter Sophiegirl Nov 2013 #49
How can one feel that justice was served? PeteSelman Nov 2013 #33
what a douchebag gopiscrap Nov 2013 #34
If castration was the punishment for rape...I bet the incidences of rape would decline fast. Auntie Bush Nov 2013 #37
castration is way cheaper for taxpayers grasswire Nov 2013 #38
Agreed. nt JudyM Nov 2013 #39
I can understand the emotional appeal. But like the death penalty, mutilation is an irreversible nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #54
A year? That is fucking disgusting. WonderGrunion Nov 2013 #41
"Smoking pot" doesn't carry a 5-year minimum sentence. Growing or selling it might nomorenomore08 Nov 2013 #55
If only he had some weed on him ... daggahead Nov 2013 #42
Just a year? ONE f***ing year?! Bullshit. Just unbelievable. AverageJoe90 Nov 2013 #43
I see rape continues to be a good ole boy crime. Le Taz Hot Nov 2013 #44
Disgusting. historylovr Nov 2013 #45
Rape is considered some sort of right in this part of the world Tumbulu Nov 2013 #46
What the hell? ONE YEAR?! Oakenshield Nov 2013 #47
Sometimes you have to shame the system into working. flvegan Nov 2013 #50
Poor Girl. All I feel is anger and sadness. Every time I read about something like this .. BlueJazz Nov 2013 #51
I think the one year was because he plead 'no contest' rather than being found guilty. Captain Stern Nov 2013 #52
Always good to see people daring enough to take a strong stance against...rape. Dreamer Tatum Nov 2013 #56

freshwest

(53,661 posts)
48. While she was unconsciousX3. After he got her drunkX3. She is a minorX3. He's an authority figureX3.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 12:06 AM
Nov 2013
What if she's pregnant? Will she have to be the mother of the child of her rapist? Will he insist on visitation? X3. X3. X3.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
2. One year?
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:05 PM
Nov 2013

1. "Had sex?" No, you did not "have sex with" anyone. Jesus Christ. Even if she'd been an adult, you can't "have sex with" someone who is unconscious. That is so clearly rape and so obviously something done to and not with someone.

2. Contrast this to the people in the thread who are in prison for life for non-violent crimes.

3. I'll go out on a limb and say that the coach is probably white.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
5. point on. he was fucking raping the GIRL. GIRL. an old fuckin man fucking a girl. rape.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:11 PM
Nov 2013

just makes me sick

 

rudolph the red

(666 posts)
3. That is ridiculous
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:10 PM
Nov 2013

Not only is the act of rape reprehensible, but as her coach, he was in a position of authority and power over her. They should have given this sick fuck the maximum sentence allowable.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
14. truly blows my mind. an open and shut case like this and a year. says a hell of a lot.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:21 PM
Nov 2013

our girls for the taking.

and... your sweet. alls well. looking forward to the davis campaign taking off in my area.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
16. Rape is just barely illegal
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:24 PM
Nov 2013

He won't go to prison, just country jail. I wonder how much time he'll actually serve.

You can get more time than that for shoplifting.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
18. meh... we should all feel better and not talk about it cause the numbers shown to us,
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:27 PM
Nov 2013

tell us, rape is down.

now, we also have plenty of proof that those numbers are bogus across the nation, but that does not matter, either.

we should cheer, celebrate. not complain.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
28. I read a thread a few hours ago
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:35 PM
Nov 2013

with a bunch of non-violent offenders, almost all drug crimes, who were all in prison for life.

What good does it do to keep non-violent people in prison? Prison is for people like this rapist.

But no no no, drugs are BAD - so bad you'll go to prison forever! But rape is barely illegal. It's hard to even get arrested for it, let alone convicted, and then if you do get convicted, even if the victim is a minor, was unconscious, and you were in a position of authority over her, you'll still only have a short stint in the county jail.

arely staircase

(12,482 posts)
27. a friend from pampa once told me
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:34 PM
Nov 2013

there was a barbed wire fence a few miles out of town to break the wind.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
6. He should be put in jail for much longer. How can anyone have sex with a person that
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:12 PM
Nov 2013

is incapable of giving consent?

Beacool

(30,247 posts)
24. Damn, no wonder he is raping unconscious girls!!
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:32 PM
Nov 2013

Who the hell would sleep with that fuggly guy if they were fully awake.


Beacool

(30,247 posts)
19. Its called RAPE!!!!!
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:30 PM
Nov 2013

This is something teenage boys and men need to get it into their heads. If the girl/woman is not conscious, she can't consent to having sex. Therefore, forcing themselves on a passed out person is called RAPE.

In this particular case, the rape is even more egregious because it was committed by an adult on a minor. He should have been protecting these kids, not getting them drunk and raping one of them. That he only got a year for the rape is ridiculous.

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
21. He must also be a banker?
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:31 PM
Nov 2013

The hood needs to spend more like 20+ years for this violation.
And be castrated.

 

elehhhhna

(32,076 posts)
31. ...Confessed to RAPE would be a factual headline.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:39 PM
Nov 2013


Got an 11th-grade girl drunk. Raped her. Fucking predator. The courts seem to think that getting on the sex offender registry for life is such a big deal that the sentences are maybe getting shorter? WTF.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
32. That isn't justice; it's a mockery.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:39 PM
Nov 2013

If it were my daughter, it would take a lot longer than one year for me to cool down.

Sophiegirl

(2,338 posts)
49. Were it my daughter
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 12:07 AM
Nov 2013

I would be doing life in jail for killing that fucker. And to be honest.... I would serve it gladly after wiping my ass with his entrails. I was raped. The trauma NEVER goes away. It is, in itself, a life sentence of pain, misery and self-disgust. Nothing makes that go away.

This is one person who best NEVER come across me!

PeteSelman

(1,508 posts)
33. How can one feel that justice was served?
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 09:39 PM
Nov 2013

How can one not kill this guy when he gets out?

It's beyond me.

Auntie Bush

(17,528 posts)
37. If castration was the punishment for rape...I bet the incidences of rape would decline fast.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 10:05 PM
Nov 2013

We need to do that...or give them a choice. At least 10 years in jail or castration. They decide!

That disgusting man is really disgusting!

grasswire

(50,130 posts)
38. castration is way cheaper for taxpayers
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 10:34 PM
Nov 2013

10 years in prison will cost close to half a million dollars.

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
54. I can understand the emotional appeal. But like the death penalty, mutilation is an irreversible
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 02:40 AM
Nov 2013

sentence once carried out, so what about those (however small in number) who will inevitably be wrongfully convicted? Not to mention how Medieval that is as punishment - we might as well be cutting robbers' hands off.

WonderGrunion

(2,995 posts)
41. A year? That is fucking disgusting.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 10:41 PM
Nov 2013

He needs a year being buried inside a fire ant hill.

How is it predators get light sentences and smoking pot gets a 5 year minimum sentence?

nomorenomore08

(13,324 posts)
55. "Smoking pot" doesn't carry a 5-year minimum sentence. Growing or selling it might
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 02:43 AM
Nov 2013

depending on circumstances and amount.

But this is a complete travesty. What possible logic could've led to such a light sentence, I don't even want to know.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
43. Just a year? ONE f***ing year?! Bullshit. Just unbelievable.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 10:46 PM
Nov 2013

Should have been 10 to 15 years and lifetime probation, at least.....and yet, just smoking pot can get you 5x the sentence.....this is fucking insane.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
44. I see rape continues to be a good ole boy crime.
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 10:48 PM
Nov 2013

I don't understand this sentence. If the ole boys wouldn't give him serious time for raping an underage, UNCONSCIOUS teen, I would think SOMETHING could be added to giving alcohol to minors.

This is some plea bargain shit that the lazy-ass D.A. pulled. I know that scenario too well.

Tumbulu

(6,278 posts)
46. Rape is considered some sort of right in this part of the world
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 11:35 PM
Nov 2013

I am so sorry to report.

30 years ago I was renting an apartment maybe 100 miles from there and a predator broke in, but we chased him off. The police informed us that this guy had just been released from serving a 7 yr sentence for rape and attempeted murder. He had not succeeded in killing the woman only leaving her paralyzed for life! 7 years for this violence? And here he was breaking into our place? And they wanted us to stay and call them when he broke in again so that they could arrest him in the act....we moved out immediately.

But the poor woman in Florida gets 20 years for shooting a warning shot when her abusive husband was getting ready to beat her up a mere week after giving birth......

Simply outrageous.

Oakenshield

(614 posts)
47. What the hell? ONE YEAR?!
Wed Nov 13, 2013, 11:46 PM
Nov 2013

And just when you think the justice department can't disappoint you more, there they go again.

flvegan

(64,407 posts)
50. Sometimes you have to shame the system into working.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 12:14 AM
Nov 2013

I hope there won't be any "he served his time" apologists in his area, selective outrage being what it is. I hope they do right by him.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
51. Poor Girl. All I feel is anger and sadness. Every time I read about something like this ..
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 12:28 AM
Nov 2013

...I want to go somewhere else.
But I have to be strong and fight this type of behavior.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
52. I think the one year was because he plead 'no contest' rather than being found guilty.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 01:18 AM
Nov 2013

My understanding is that pleading no contest isn't an admission of guilt, but just an acknowledgement that the prosecution probably has enough evidence to have you found guilty.

I'm guessing the guy's guilty as hell, but the prosecution wasn't positive that they could convict him, so they let him plea. Or there was no way they could find him guilty without the victim testifying, and the decision was made not to put her through that.

Either way, I think the guy got off easy. I'm against the death penalty, but I'm for more sentences of 'life in prison'. I'd be happy to pay a few more tax dollars to make sure guys like this never walk free again.

Dreamer Tatum

(10,926 posts)
56. Always good to see people daring enough to take a strong stance against...rape.
Fri Nov 15, 2013, 02:44 AM
Nov 2013

But seriously, I support the death penalty in cases of rape. Or child molestation.
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