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boomerbust

(2,181 posts)
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 07:38 AM Nov 2013

Per usual, Blue Dog rats are jumping ship

Just when the Republican Party seems to be self destructing, the Blue Dogs are right there to save them. Obama is partly to blame. Campaigned as a Progressive but governs as a Wall Street Dem. I'll bet Bubba is getting the cold shoulder at home right about now.

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Per usual, Blue Dog rats are jumping ship (Original Post) boomerbust Nov 2013 OP
The corporations pay big $$$ to buy both parties RandiFan1290 Nov 2013 #1
Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2013 #5
So the blue dogs and the insurance companie vi5 Nov 2013 #2
It's up to Dem voters to know who they are and what they stand for. We need to teach Dem kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #3
Its Because the People We Elect.. Beach Rat Nov 2013 #4
Getting re-elected can be seen as their primary job. Threedifferentones Nov 2013 #11
Not just the "Blue Dogs"...the "New Dems" are turncoats as well. PassingFair Nov 2013 #6
I've always thought... Oilwellian Nov 2013 #7
Two different caucuses. PassingFair Nov 2013 #8
The moderates in the party? The Sensible Centrists? The Woodchucks? WorseBeforeBetter Nov 2013 #9
It's alright, once we elect Hillary it'll all get bett-- NuclearDem Nov 2013 #10

RandiFan1290

(6,232 posts)
1. The corporations pay big $$$ to buy both parties
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 07:45 AM
Nov 2013

People like Feinstein and Landrieu are there to make sure the publicons win every time.

Response to RandiFan1290 (Reply #1)

 

vi5

(13,305 posts)
2. So the blue dogs and the insurance companie
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 09:47 AM
Nov 2013

Are why the ACA was far less than optimal, and the concessions "we" made to them set it up for failure and now they are complaining that it's a failure.

They suck so badly but it serves "our side" right for catering and cowtowing to them. The ACA passed without Republican votes anyway so we didn't need to cater to them. But because heaven forbid we expected Obama or Reid to actually hold the blue dogs feet to the fire and make some threats and twist some arms, now we are stuck with a poorly executed, inching towards failure system.

But hey....."BIPARTISAN!!!!" "We're better than the Republicans!!! We don't march in lockstep!!!!"

Yeah, hows that all working out for us now.

 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
3. It's up to Dem voters to know who they are and what they stand for. We need to teach Dem
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 09:53 AM
Nov 2013

voters a "D" is not always a Dem in spirit and we need to vote them out of office when we can.

Beach Rat

(273 posts)
4. Its Because the People We Elect..
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 09:58 AM
Nov 2013

aren't in the business of governing. They have two jobs...getting re-elected and serving the interests of their largest donors, not necessarily in that order. There is very little actual governing going on in the government right now.

Threedifferentones

(1,070 posts)
11. Getting re-elected can be seen as their primary job.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 11:19 AM
Nov 2013

The thing is that even though elections literally depend on votes, in practice votes require staggering amounts of money to obtain. This is because in general marketing/advertising trumps truth. Thus, any politician at a Federal or even State level is more beholden to the large donors that help him advertise than he is to the voters he advertises to.

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
6. Not just the "Blue Dogs"...the "New Dems" are turncoats as well.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 10:19 AM
Nov 2013

This is exactly why I refused to work for Gary Peters here.
He is a puppet for $$$. Witness his vote in the recent house legislation that is unstitching
the belated safe guards against the type of chicanery that brought us
the 2008 bail-outs. Every other Michigan Congressperson
voted to stop this except Peters.

This legislation does NOTHING to help the people. It is all
about making the rich richer and the bankers more predatory.

Here's a list containing many of the co-opted:

The 70 Democrats that supported weakening Dodd-Frank to satisfy their donors:

Ron Barber (AZ-02)
John Barrow (GA-12)
Joyce Beatty (OH-03)
Ami Bera (CA-07)
Sanford Bishop (GA-02)
Earl Blumenauer (OR-03)
Corrine Brown (FL-05)
G. K. Butterfield (NC-01)
John Carney (DE-AL)
Yvette Clarke (NY-09)
Jim Clyburn (SC-06)
Gerry Connolly (VA-11)
Joe Crowley (NY-14)
Henry Cuellar (TX-28)
John Delaney (MD-06)
Tammy Duckworth (IL-08)
Eliot Engel (NY-16)
Elizabeth Esty (CT-05)
Bill Foster (IL-11)
Marcia Fudge (OH-11)
Pete Gallego (TX-23)
Joe Garcia (FL-26)
Colleen Hanabusa (HI-01)
Denny Heck (WA-10)
Jim Himes (CT-04)
Rubén Hinojosa (TX-15)
Steven Horsford (NV-04)
Steny Hoyer (MD-05)
Hakeem Jeffries (NY-08)
Hank Johnson (GA-04)
Robin Kelly (IL-02)
Derek Kilmer (WA-06)
Ron Kind (WI-03)
Ann Kirkpatrick (AZ-01)
Annie Kuster (NH-02)
Rick Larsen (WA-02)
John Larson (CT-01)
Daniel Lipinski (IL-03)
Nita Lowey (NY-17)
Dan Maffei (NY-24)
Carolyn Maloney (NY-12)
Sean Maloney (NY-18)
Jim Matheson (UT-02)
Mike McIntyre (NC-07)
Gregory Meeks (NY-05)
Grace Meng (NY-06)
Gwen Moore (WI-04)
Jim Moran (VA-08)
Patrick Murphy (FL-18)
Bill Owens (NY-21)
Ed Perlmutter (CO-07)
Scott Peters (CA-52)
Gary Peters (MI-14)
Jared Polis (CO-02)
Mike Quigley (IL-05)
Nick Rahall (WV-03)
Charlie Rangel (NY-13)
Cedric Richmond (LA-02)
Dutch Ruppersberger (MD-02)
Loretta Sanchez (CA-46)
Brad Schneider (IL-10)
David Scott (GA-13)
Terri Sewell (AL-07)
Brad Sherman (CA-30)
Kyrsten Sinema (AZ-09)
Albio Sires (NJ-08)
Juan Vargas (CA-51)
Marc Veasey (TX-33)
Debbie Wasserman Schultz (FL-23)
Frederica Wilson (FL-24)

PassingFair

(22,434 posts)
8. Two different caucuses.
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 11:04 AM
Nov 2013

The New Dems hide behind the Blue Dogs when dirty work is being done.

The "New Dems" are the old "DLC".

Ideological conferences

Other caucuses are organized political factions with a common ideological orientation:

On the Democratic side, there is the Blue Dog Coalition (conservative Democrats), the New Democrat Coalition (moderate Democrats), and the Congressional Progressive Caucus (liberal and progressive Democrats).

WorseBeforeBetter

(11,441 posts)
9. The moderates in the party? The Sensible Centrists? The Woodchucks?
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 11:10 AM
Nov 2013

The non-HowlingEmoBlackHelicopterLeftieLeftists? But they're CRUCIAL to the Democratic Party!

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
10. It's alright, once we elect Hillary it'll all get bett--
Thu Nov 14, 2013, 11:15 AM
Nov 2013
Sorry, I couldn't even finish that sentence.
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