Part of the problem with the ACA is that the insurance companies wrote the bill/law.

[diabeticman]

Insurance companies know exactly how to manipulate the law because they wrote it. We are seeing the underhanded way they are trying to make this thing not work or trying to make it fail with all the issues. They are afraid of this law passing because within 5 years you are going to see the closet thing to single payer in this country.


NOW the computer website and the issues my wife has had is the administrations fault. HOW THE HECK do you not already have the best IT people working on the site so that when it is rolled out you don't have the glitches like we have seen.

[frazzled]

1. You need to provide documentation to support that statement

I'm talking names, dates, places of insurers who drafted parts of the law. Otherwise, pouf.

[cali]

2. seriously? talk about raising the bar to absurd heights

no one- including the administration denies that health care industry had a lot of input into the writing of the ACA- going back to the earlier Heritage Foundation version of the legislation.

[frazzled]

3. No, not at all

Having input--or even influence-- is completely different from writing a bill.

Many people and groups had input into this law, from doctors, nurses, hospitals, policy experts, unions (yes, remember the discussions they had to have about Cadillac plans and other issues that affected union insurance plans), small business owners, patients ... and yes, insurance companies.

We're not talking a situation here where Dick Cheney had a secret task force that helped draft an energy bill that came out of the VP's office and was duly passed by Congress in that form. One of the criticisms leveled against the Obama administration is that they don't have a habit of writing bills and presenting them to Congress--they let Senate committees wrangle out compromises and come up with bills, providing only broad outlines.

There were many stakeholders in the health care bill, insurance companies certainly among them. They had to be lured in to covering all these people they'd been keeping out the system for decades ... and sure, they probably got stuff they wanted. But so did other stakeholders.

[NoOneMan]

6. That's how I feel about this guy

For the private industry, the administration plan offers a windfall of billions of dollars annually. The windfall is not entirely a surplus, since elements of Administration's proposal appear to have originated in the insurance industry itself

Same claim from Ted Kennedy on ACA's grandpa, the NHIPA.

Decades ago, he knew which way the wind blew. And when Democrats chastise the right about their opposition to this traditionally conservative, Heritage plan, I can only shake my head and wonder what it is about the Democratic party that makes them in favor of it.

[diabeticman]

7. I forgot everything I say here is a lie. Here are some links:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=3828412

http://www.politicalmontana.com/?tag=bill-moyers


Please give me a number of links you want and I will comply.

[warrior1]

4. they stand to make more money

because more people will be buying insurance.

I think the stress causes by the media and gop has made this seem worst than it is. People need to just chill.

[Lifelong Dem]

8. We can do without the media on this and all would be fine with ACA

[Laelth]

5. Please, remember Truman.

No apologizing for the ACA!

I've seen it happen time after time. When the Democratic candidate allows himself to be put on the defensive and starts apologizing for the New Deal and the fair Deal, and says he really doesn't believe in them, he is sure to lose. The people don't want a phony Democrat. If it's a choice between a genuine Republican, and a Republican in Democratic clothing, the people will choose the genuine article, every time; that is, they will take a Republican before they will a phony Democrat, and I don't want any phony Democratic candidates in this campaign.

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Harry_S._Truman

-Laelth