Nancy Pelosi Guts David Gregory’s Republican Talking Points and ACA Lies

[CatWoman]

The point of the whole interview for Gregory wasn’t to be objective. His introduction to show said that the White House was shaken, there was a crisis of confidence in the president, and Democrats were abandoning him. Gregory had his narrative, and he wasn’t interested in the facts about what is really going on.

Gregory tried to get Pelosi on the Democrats defecting from Obama, but the Democratic leader used facts to shoot that down. He tried gotcha journalism with a video clip, but Pelosi explained why what she said was true. David Gregory even got part of the healthcare law wrong when he claimed that the law mandated that junk policies had to be canceled, and he was corrected by Rep. Pelosi.

The problem for the media is that this story is quickly running out of life. The media is going along with Republicans in pushing the belief that the website will never be fixed. They are assuming that the website will remain broken, because their story is pointless if they have to admit that this is a short term problem that is improving by the day. Obama’s presidency can’t be in crisis is the website is being fixed, so they have to pretend like it isn’t.

Nancy Pelosi didn’t play games with David Gregory. She shot down his BS, and gutted his attempt push a false story about a crisis that exists only in the minds of the mainstream media. The truth is that the news is slow, so the media decided to blow the website issues up into a presidency destroying moment.

Democrats know that once people sign up for the ACA, they will like it. They also know that if Republicans want to run in November 2014 on a website that has been fixed for ten months, they are more than happy to let them.

Nancy Pelosi gave Democrats a road map for handling media over the next couple of weeks. No retreat, no surrender, and no apologies for making the healthcare system better for hundreds of millions of people.

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/11/17/nancy-pelosi-guts-david-gregorys-republican-talking-points-aca-lies.html
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[NYC_SKP]

1. Yay, Senator Pelosi!

K/R

[Brother Buzz]

8. I see what you did there!

[NYC_SKP]

9. DiFi haz 2 go!

[tblue37]

10. No. She was and, I hope, soon will be again

one of THE best Speakers in House history, if not the best pure and simple. We need to quit Peter Pricipling our most effective Dem leaders!

[freshwest]

38. +1

[Spitfire of ATJ]

40. Exactly. She would be a Junior Senator.

[spanone]

2. i saw a few minutes of what passes for journalism today. it's a game show at best.

a lynching. yellow journalism.

[Thinkingabout]

3. The GOP continues to shoot themselves in the foot, Romney says ACA is terrible but he must have

forgotten it was patterned after Romney Care. They don't have an alternate plan, are now complaining they was not able to participate in drawing up the plan, guess the GOP Congressional members was not in Congress at the time the ACA was drawn up, it is a lot of complaining and nothing intelligent from the GOP. I wonder if ACA has a treatment for a GOP Congressional No Bunch, it is a terrible illness.

[zbdent]

15. Romney hasn't "forgotten it was patterned after Romney Care" ...

he's counting on the "liberally-biased media" trying to rewrite history like a Texas textbook company which donated heavily to George W. Bush.

[Berlum]

4. Gregory (R) has become a pox upon the nation

He needs to crawl in shame back under the right-wing republican rock he came from. What a total sell out he is...

[BlueStreak]

27. He was plenty transparent. He said all he was interested in discussing

was not the facts, or who the law is affecting people, but how worried a few Democrats are. Well, yeah. When idiots like Gregory spend 24x7 babbling nonsense about such an important topic, there is good reason to be afraid.

He just kept repeating himself, so I didn't waste any time after the first 90 seconds. Did he ever say anything intelligent?

[randr]

5. What could the media in America be afraid of to continue

ass kissing the minority right wing?

[freshwest]

39. Their bloated paychecks. And membership in their club that guarantees their jobs.

No matter how outrageous their lies, distortions or fuck ups, they never lose their jobs, just get shuffled into a think tank, or another good paying gig. Anyone speaks out of turn against the network owners gets the hook quick, no matter how popular they are with the public or how good their ratings are. It's a a highly managed message, stay right, lean libertarian or it's out the door.

[Mass]

6. Sorry, but she was awful.

She was right, but seemed unable to talk in a way that relates to people.

Gregory was a jerk, that is true, but Pelosi was not good at all, except if the game is played for political addicts. No way an average person can relate to her.

[Duckhunter935]

26. I agree

She is very hard to listen to and has trouble getting to the point

[brush]

29. Did you listen to the same interview I did?

She systematically rebutted all his repug talking points.

I thought she did a great job in not letting him continue with the "Democrats are deserting the President" line and his misstating of a provision of the ACA.

Woohoo! Go Nancy Pelosi.

[Mass]

30. The question Gregory asked were perfect DC talk, uninteresting to the rest of the country,.

She answered as if they were relevant, ignoring WHY ACA was important to people.

This is what I hate with pols who have never lived outside of the political world. They cannot understand what people care about. Whether Dems are deserting the President will not give them insurance. Talking about HOW to subscribe to the healthcare law, why it is important and what it brings to people is what we must talk about.

She accepted Gregory's frame, looking totally out of touch with average people's reality and making Kelly Ayotte look as if she cared. Sorry, we can continue to think we look good when we attack, but attacking without caring, like if it was a football game and not people's life hurt us.

[Blanks]

36. Not all viewers are of equal intelligence. eom

[grahamhgreen]

33. +1

[jazzimov]

7. "Democrats know that once people sign up for the ACA, they will like it."

Exactly! That's why we have a chance to take back the House in 2014. GOTV!

[rhett o rick]

11. Contact Gregory here:

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6872152/ns/meet_the_press-more/t/meet-press-mailbox/

[calimary]

12. Good!

I'm making note of this one!

http://www.nbcnews.com/id/6872152/ns/meet_the_press-more/t/meet-press-mailbox/

Thanks rhett!!!

[rhett o rick]

13. Send two, their cheap. nm

[TeamPooka]

14. K&R!

[fadedrose]

16. In all fairness to Gregory (Whom I can't stand)

The republican congresswoman who was Nancy's "opposition," was not treated lightly by Gregory.

I was suprised. She came out looking as though she had no answers and I think she couldn't wait to get out of there.

Don't know who it was...It'll be repeated at 2:00 am on msnbc

http://www.tvguide.com/Listings/

Does everyone miss their VCR and erasable tapes, or just me?

[rurallib]

17. do you have a DVR?

[fadedrose]

18. No

Husband has giant tv with recording options. I don't watch enough TV to bother with that stuff. Normally just watch news, Letterman & History 2. He watches Judges Judy & Miliano, and other programs I can't stand.

I have a tv-vcr combination, but with cable, you have to be there to record at the time the program starts to get the channel. It'll end anytime I want.

Trouble is I have a huge stack of taped treasures I never have the time to watch. I bumped into an OJ trial one a couple of weeks ago.

[CatWoman]

20. It was Sen. Kelly Ayotte

[fadedrose]

21. Thank you...I always get her name wrong...

[Berlum]

22. Olde 'Granite Brain' Ayotte (R)

She is a total Republicon...such an embarrassment. One almost feels sorry for her.

[loyalsister]

23. I think Gregory tears into republicans as much as he does democrats

I don't make a point to watch the republicans on there, but when I catch he seems to be pretty rough with them, too. It's his job to go after whoever is sitting in the chair. I know it's popular to demonize press, but Wolf Blitzer was the one who exposed the "let them die policy," and Candy Crowler was gave us "please proceed."

I know there are moments where they deserve criticism, but their job is to grill politicians. All of them.

[Oilwellian]

24. ROFL

My sides hurt.

[Mass]

31. I agree. He is an equal opportunity idiot.

[ewagner]

19. Nancy' right...

No retreat
No surrender

"The Boss" sang about that and I think we need to listen to it again....and again...until we truly believe it.

[Mostly Orbiting]

25. The ballsiest Democrat in Washington

I love ya, Nancy!

[Cha]

28. the M$M is so corrupt.. I'm shocked they even had Nancy Pelosi on

one of their shows. Oooops!

Thank you Nancy Pelosi! No Retreat No Surrender! She and Gov Deval Patrick have it goin' on..



Letter From Governor Patrick to the Massachusetts Congressional Delegation on the Affordable Care Act

"However, any delay in requiring plans to meet the basic standards of the ACA must only be temporary. Leaving non-compliant plans to remain permanently in place means we revert to the status quo: a broken health care system where many people carry policies that don’t cover them when they get seriously ill, and where those with comprehensive coverage pay for those uninsured or underinsured in higher premiums and taxes. Permitting plans to be permanently non-compliant means the pool of individuals who do purchase plans through the marketplaces will likely be sicker on average, and their options will be more expensive and constrained. And it will disrupt the market-based model on which premiums and policy options hinge."

sheshe http://www.democraticunderground.com/110219292

thanks for the OP, Cat

[grahamhgreen]

32. Sorry, I found her incoherent: quote -

pelosi - "The rollout of the website, that's terrible. But the fact is that will be fixed. And that is the instrument of enrollment, as you know. What the Republicans did on Friday is not a fix. And if I just may, the law does not demand that all of these cancellations go out. The law says if you had your plan of the law, you can keep it, and that's what the president said. So there's a distinction between those who had it before, and what this law does is say other people can be enrolled in these bad initiatives, which the rules--"

What needs to be said:

1) we will not eviscerate the ACA by allowing substandard plans that cost a lot but cover nothing.

2) the problems we are facing are because we need a public option or Medicare for All.

Period. Full stop.

The current trajectory will leave us with being mandated to buy crapsurance that covers nothing, which, I have been stating for years, may have been the plan all along.......

[Skip Intro]

46. What?

Oh man. I hope that wasn't a clarification!

This is a ridiculous argument anyway. Obama said if we like our plans we can keep them and for many that is not true. Not all plans being cancelled were "substandard." Just weren't. Said the average family would save $2500 a year. Prices are going up for many. It is having a negative impact on some people. Right-leaning friends tell me it will be much worse when the employer mandate goes into effect. Don't know but the argument makes some sense. Also makes sense that it would be pushed back until after 14 elections for that reason. Don't know that that is the case. We'll see soon enough.

[Hekate]

34. She was on NPR several weeks ago, doing the same. "I've got 700 pages here; shall I go on?"

I can never remember the interviewer's name, but he bugs me by the way he presents information as he said-she said. Senator Pelosi was magnificent -- she never gave an inch, and continued to beat the man down with sheer facts.

As for David Gregory, I won't waste my time on that one. I'm glad Nancy took him on.

[Triana]

35. Gregory's intent in this was not objectivity. It was to push a narrative.

As is the intent of all the mainstream media. It was to push a certain narrative ie: "crisis of confidence", etc.

Gregory tells Pelosi: "I won't want to get too far into the weeds". This means: "I'm not interested in the facts, I have to push my narrative."

The mainstream media's objective is to keep the meme perpetuated that the website/ACA is "broken" and "doesn't work" so GOP can run on this in Nov. 2014 -- even if the website and JUNK policy issue is long fixed by then.

They HAVE TO KEEP THIS MEME ALIVE and they will for the next 12+ months. It's their job. Remember they're corporate owned. And insurance companies are corporations. And Republicans represent who? Corporations and v.wealthy people ONLY.

So they're all on the same team together.

As for Dems and the rest of us - we're all on the same team together too - but our problem is that WE don't have any mainstream media pushing OUR narrative (ie: the truth as opposed to TeaBag / Republican sensationalism and hypocrisy).

[Cosmocat]

37. YEP

that is it in a nutshell ...

[albino65]

41. Conservative Stooge

Everyone knows that David Gregory was a stooge for the Bush white house and even got an "atta-boy" for his coverage from Media Research Center, a conservative propaganda machine. By extension, we should consider all content from NBC or any of the main stream media as severely suspect. It doesn't take a genius to see the insipid creep of big money into skewed journalism.

[pansypoo53219]

42. teevee gnewz is still sniffing at ronald reagan's ass.

[herding cats]

43. When I click the provided link I get a server down message

It says,
"Whoa! We're swamped...

Give us a few seconds to tidy up a bit and all will be back to normal.

Thanks for understanding."

Is there another place I could read the article?

[ffr]

44. Poor ill informed Gregory. Trying to create drama where drama doesn't exist.

[mdbl]

45. David Gregory is just a tool

He's been trying to compete with Fux and Friends for years now. I completely quit watching him, I also turn off NBC if some dork like Chuck Todd shows up. You'll get the same garbage opinions from both of them.