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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 09:54 AM Nov 2013

Can we bubble? Yes, we can.

A perfect example of stupidity found in the new endless testing going on in our schools now courtesy of both parties. This is in a Kindergarten Test Prep kit sold by a group called Teachers pay Teachers. You would think they would know better.

Courtesy of Susan Ohanian's blog.



Don't blame Pearson for this one.

This worksheet is part of a 20-page packet of test prep materials for Kindergarten and Grade 1 sold by Teachers Pay Teachers--$5.

http://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Product/Kindergarten-Standardized-Test-Practice-for-the-Un-Common-Core-Math-Skills-522348


Arne Duncan is so very proud of his policy of endless testing. Pearson loves him. Look at all the new tests they get to produce. He has forgotten about the students' needs, about parents' expectations for them.....and it has reached a point where people actually expect his stupid statements. His latest one takes on a pretty powerful group.

‘White suburban moms’ upset that Common Core shows their kids aren’t ‘brilliant’

U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan told a group of state schools superintendents Friday that he found it “fascinating” that some of the opposition to the Common Core State Standards has come from “white suburban moms who — all of a sudden — their child isn’t as brilliant as they thought they were, and their school isn’t quite as good as they thought they were.”


We need education leaders who are bright enough to understand that making great bubbles is not learning. I wonder how we got to such a place in country that there are political leaders who let people like Arne get away with this.






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Can we bubble? Yes, we can. (Original Post) madfloridian Nov 2013 OP
We've got to address the verbing gap between American and Soviet kids. Gidney N Cloyd Nov 2013 #1
I'm happy with 'bubble' as a verb, but it doesn't mean 'colour in' muriel_volestrangler Nov 2013 #18
Bubbles! Xipe Totec Nov 2013 #2
..... madfloridian Nov 2013 #11
Rarely is the question asked: Is our children learning to bubble? progressoid Nov 2013 #3
Ha Ha So true. madfloridian Nov 2013 #5
I teach Florida college freshmen and sophomores, and let me tell you, QC Nov 2013 #4
I can easily believe that. madfloridian Nov 2013 #6
Oh yes, our local politicians and administrators are very into testing. QC Nov 2013 #7
Even our national politicians are very much into testing. madfloridian Nov 2013 #8
I find that my students aren't always good at bubbling, though. Sometimes, they petronius Nov 2013 #9
Yes, it is skill that is required... madfloridian Nov 2013 #12
Every year I have to teach kids how to use a ruler to measure and cut out clay. Starry Messenger Nov 2013 #15
Florida dumped driver's ed and home ec to make more time for testing, QC Nov 2013 #16
Raise your hand if you think this is a worthy learning goal. madfloridian Nov 2013 #10
Actually the bubble skills fall right in line with Arne's education goal. madfloridian Nov 2013 #13
And here I thought this thread was about teaching the kids about Wall Street and politics... adirondacker Nov 2013 #14
K&R FloriTexan Nov 2013 #17
Arne remains an offensive, inept chervilant Nov 2013 #19

muriel_volestrangler

(101,315 posts)
18. I'm happy with 'bubble' as a verb, but it doesn't mean 'colour in'
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 07:09 PM
Nov 2013

It means to form or have bubbles. And the idea of them is that they are transparent, not opaque. Filling out a multichoice test is getting rid of bubbles, if anything.

QC

(26,371 posts)
4. I teach Florida college freshmen and sophomores, and let me tell you,
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:19 AM
Nov 2013

they are great at taking multiple choice tests.

Now, reading, analyzing, arguing, things like that, well, they have problems, but when it comes to choosing A, B, C, or D, I would put them up against anyone in the world.

Thanks, NCLB!

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
6. I can easily believe that.
Reply to QC (Reply #4)
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:28 AM
Nov 2013

In primary grades even before I retired we were teaching them all the little tricks and tips for choosing the best answer. In fact we had to stop class to attend rallies for testing. Rah Rah. Remember when principals shaved their heads to show their support for the new testing? One in our area even spent several winter nights camped out on top of the school building.

QC

(26,371 posts)
7. Oh yes, our local politicians and administrators are very into testing.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 10:29 AM
Nov 2013

Teachers, parents, and students, not so much, but who cares what they think?

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
8. Even our national politicians are very much into testing.
Reply to QC (Reply #7)
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:07 PM
Nov 2013

Pearson is so glad about that. They have enough contracts to be rich forever.

petronius

(26,602 posts)
9. I find that my students aren't always good at bubbling, though. Sometimes, they
Reply to QC (Reply #4)
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 01:12 PM
Nov 2013

don't erase completely, and others make very light bubbles. Still others will put marks in non-bubble parts of the scantron, and even bring in a stained or folded scantron form! This training reported in the OP is an extremely valuable addition to the K-12 curriculum!



madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
12. Yes, it is skill that is required...
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 02:35 PM
Nov 2013

under the new education reform. It is the very essence of the new type of learning.

Starry Messenger

(32,342 posts)
15. Every year I have to teach kids how to use a ruler to measure and cut out clay.
Reply to QC (Reply #4)
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:27 PM
Nov 2013

They look at me like I'm holding up a wand when I tell them to find the end of the ruler and then the six and measure against the line.

One of them asked the meaning of the word "refine" the other day.

It's not just scary, it's depressing.

QC

(26,371 posts)
16. Florida dumped driver's ed and home ec to make more time for testing,
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:48 PM
Nov 2013

so many of our recent graduates are running around without basic but very necessary skills, like changing a tire, basic cooking, etc.

If it's not on the test, it's just not worth knowing.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
13. Actually the bubble skills fall right in line with Arne's education goal.
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:14 PM
Nov 2013

As stated in his "apology" for wording his statement about white suburban moms badly. Not an apology really, to say he chose the wrong words.

As stated in the apology, here is his goal for education.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/11/18/politics/duncan-comment-controversy/

Duncan said his point was that the goal is to prepare U.S. students for a "globally competitive work force" and to challenge education leaders to better explain to parents why higher standards are needed and what it takes to achieve them.


Filling in bubbles to conform to test standards would certainly fit that goal.

He also said they needed a well-rounded curriculum. Those two goals are not compatible. Hard to train students as workers in a competitive world and give them a well-rounded education. The latter goal is already out the window.

Ok, now this can drop off the page again as most education reform posts do.

adirondacker

(2,921 posts)
14. And here I thought this thread was about teaching the kids about Wall Street and politics...
Tue Nov 19, 2013, 05:22 PM
Nov 2013

On the other hand...

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
19. Arne remains an offensive, inept
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 08:05 AM
Nov 2013

bureaucrat. The corporate decimation of public education is almost complete.

One of my former art students routinely calls me for help with her Algebra II homework. She does not understand the "bigger picture" when she asks about her "challenging" problems -- most of which suggest that the current approach to teaching math remains dismally ineffective.

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