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Capt. Obvious

(9,002 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:47 AM Nov 2013

More Historically Bad Poll Numbers For Obama, Obamacare

Approval of President Barack Obama and the Affordable Care Act have plummeted to historic lows, according to a poll released Wednesday morning.

The CBS News poll found Obama's approval rating falling nine points in just the last month to 37 percent, the lowest mark of his presidency. Fifty-seven percent said they disapprove of the job he is doing.

The numbers are even worse for his signature domestic achievement. A huge majority of 61 percent said they disapprove of the health care law, up from 51 percent in October and the highest level of opposition to Obamacare in the history of CBS News polling. Only 31 percent said they approve of the Affordable Care Act, down from 43 percent a month ago.

A Washington Post/ABC News survey on Tuesday also showed opposition to Obamacare reaching a new high, mounting evidence that the law's troubled rollout has taken a political toll.

TPM
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Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
3. wheres the box on those polls for-'want to go back to the days insurance corps dump or refuse?'
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:02 AM
Nov 2013

or offer a 3,000 a month policy, covers nothing & where they get 80% profit

 

quadrature

(2,049 posts)
5. what do you mean... 'go back'?
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:09 AM
Nov 2013

the ICs went along with PPACA, to the extent
that they did in 2009/10, because they would be
allowed to dump sick people.

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
9. I mean blue cross totally refused new policies to over 40s & pre existing conditions up to 10/2013
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:23 AM
Nov 2013

they would answer requests with a 'sorry we have no policies for you.'

Go ahead to the blue cross website and apply (don't even use the Gov website) you'll see they no longer refuse anyone.

You're taking about the hay republicans make for the 'grandfathered high profit policies' the Corps get to keep on taking premiums?

Sure the insurance corps will get to keep on collecting premium $$$$ for 'grandfathered'. Soon as the person needs that insurance, they will get dumped. Then they get their ACA insurance.

Mass

(27,315 posts)
7. Polls who bother asking the question find that people do not want to repeal ACA but to fix it..
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:13 AM
Nov 2013

n2doc

(47,953 posts)
8. I wonder what the polls would be if we didn't have a corrupt media?
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:14 AM
Nov 2013

Who blame every failing on Obama personally, and give a free pass to the insurance companies who are illegally trying to direct people away from ACA policies, and a free pass to the dirty tricksters who are trying to crash the website with denial of service attacks? I wonder what the support level would be if the media actually ran stories on people who did get good policies at good rates, and compared the experiences of those living in states who have embraced the ACA vs. those who have fought it tooth and nail?

Mass

(27,315 posts)
10. TPM has to stop being like the main stream media and focus on every individual poll.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:25 AM
Nov 2013

We know polls are looking bad for Obama right now.. This is not news. It will be like that until they regain control of the narrative.

This will come because they either are able to report real progress and stop looking like idiots who are not in control (yes, the media and the GOP focus on this, but many of the errors made were unforced - As somebody who have been in the software business and who has started to rollout projects in very rocky conditions, what amazes me is the lack of damage control of the operation, as evidenced by the fact that, one month after the rollout, we learn that the subsidy mechanism is not yet written. Seriously? And Carney has no decent answer on whether it will be ready on Dec 31rst so that people can actually get their insurance. Get people who know what they are talking about in front of the media. Let them answer every single question even if it takes an hour. Air the press conference live, and then start fixing the problem in a reasonable way, not an ad hoc way )
or because something more important happens.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
12. Let me know when approval of the law drops to
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:34 AM
Nov 2013

23 percent.

Affordable Care Act continues to outpoll Bush's Medicare Rx launch
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/19/1256789/-Affordable-Care-Act-continues-to-outpoll-Bush-s-Medicare-Rx-launch

I'm sure the media will ensure it reaches that level in the polls.

Still, you have to ask: Why the disparity?

WaPo/ABC and CBS show huge drops, but Reuters and National Journal don't.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024058205

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