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kpete

(72,038 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:46 AM Nov 2013

Paul wants people to dream again” - “You don’t dream when you’ve got food stamps" (WRONG!)

NY Mag:

The substance of Ryan’s anti-poverty agenda remains yet to be announced, but the general spirit of the endeavor can already be discerned from Ryan’s previous remarks, and those of the allies helping him formulate it. Ryan believes that the main impediment facing poor people is the existence of government programs that give them money and health care – a problem his budget rectifies by cutting subsidies to the poor. Those subsidies, Ryan has said, amount to “a hammock that lulls able-bodied people to lives of dependency and complacency, that drains them of their will and their incentive to make the most of their lives.”

Ryan’s new line seems similar to the old one:

“Paul wants people to dream again,” Holloway said of Ryan. “You don’t dream when you’ve got food stamps.”


In fact, lots of people who survived on food stamps — like J.K. Rowling — went on to achieve great things.

The other emerging element of Ryan’s anti-poverty agenda is Jesus:

“You cure poverty eye to eye, soul to soul,”
he said last week at the Heritage forum. “Spiritual redemption: That’s what saves people.”



http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2013/11/paul-ryan-poor-people-need-jesus-not-food.html



You may say I'm a dreamer
But I'm not the only one
I hope someday you'll join us
And the world will live as one


http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/johnlennon/imagine.html

(mr. pete and i were on food stamps for 2 years when we first started out - 30 years ago,
BELIEVE YOU ME, WE HAVE ALWAYS BEEN DREAMERS!)
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Paul wants people to dream again” - “You don’t dream when you’ve got food stamps" (WRONG!) (Original Post) kpete Nov 2013 OP
This guy? Scuba Nov 2013 #1
oh shit, he's on to our secret phantom power Nov 2013 #2
You forgot the lobster. Brigid Nov 2013 #15
Therefore, you do. Orsino Nov 2013 #3
Oh you dream, all you have is dreams Marrah_G Nov 2013 #4
the hungry dream about getting foodstamps--if they can get a Republican to help. librechik Nov 2013 #5
+1 Johonny Nov 2013 #7
huh, Paul, we do dream, we dream a lot! B Calm Nov 2013 #6
Yes, all that spiritual redemption sure has helped Central America, RadiationTherapy Nov 2013 #8
Eddie Munster, livin' the dream Blue Owl Nov 2013 #9
on behalf of my hungry children who do dream rbrnmw Nov 2013 #10
A little starvation will soften up these bums for Jesus. eShirl Nov 2013 #11
He disgusts me. MadrasT Nov 2013 #12
Sanctimonious clowns like him don't believe in god any more than I do. hobbit709 Nov 2013 #13
He's got a point. cali Nov 2013 #14

phantom power

(25,966 posts)
2. oh shit, he's on to our secret
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:52 AM
Nov 2013

once you get on that sweet, sweet food stamp gravy train, with the steaks and the ice cream and cadillacs, your dreams just shrivel up and you sit on the couch and text on your Obama-phone for the rest of your life. amirite?


librechik

(30,678 posts)
5. the hungry dream about getting foodstamps--if they can get a Republican to help.
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:56 AM
Nov 2013

Lotsa luck with that.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
6. huh, Paul, we do dream, we dream a lot!
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:59 AM
Nov 2013

I dream one day Walmart will start paying their employees a livable wage!

RadiationTherapy

(5,818 posts)
8. Yes, all that spiritual redemption sure has helped Central America,
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 11:03 AM
Nov 2013

many impoverished nations in Africa, and starving children worldwide who got a cup of rice and a bible to help them sleep and dream.

rbrnmw

(7,160 posts)
10. on behalf of my hungry children who do dream
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 11:33 AM
Nov 2013

I wish to tell this creep he can go straight to hell don't pass go don't collect your taxpayer paid welfare check you get for doing nothing in your do nothing congress Seriously go fuck yourself Paul Ryan. You dirtbag asshole!!!!

MadrasT

(7,237 posts)
12. He disgusts me.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:16 AM
Nov 2013

He and his ilk have no clue what life is like for anyone who came from different life circumstances.

Disgusting, privilege-dripping, vile creature.

hobbit709

(41,694 posts)
13. Sanctimonious clowns like him don't believe in god any more than I do.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:30 AM
Nov 2013

They just use it to get the rubes to vote for them.

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