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Among other things, this is reason number ten-thousand-and-one that the Democratic project of trying to compromise with conservatives is a fool's errand. They are coming from a moral and psychological place that's deeply incompatible with what we want. There isn't a sensible "compromise" to be had there.
Its kind of bananas, but it really does go back to a very simple misconception that tends to not get talked about openly on the right, in part because everyone already believes they know this and dont have to say it: Its the fear that if other people get health care, the country will run out and there wont be enough for them, the people who deserve it. That, and they dont want poor people to get doctors because then poor people will show up in their waiting rooms and theyll have to sit with them. If you doubt this, call up your favorite conservative and instigate a discussion about why emergency rooms suck. The length of the wait is a universal complaint, but oh, they will have more. But this is whats going on when conservatives wail about the supposed waiting times they fear were facing with our totally not socialist health care system: Thats a nice, euphemistic way for them to assert their belief that they get first access to the supposedly limited pool of health care, and that the rest of us can maybe have some if any is left over.
The problem is that it doesnt really work that way. Sure, there are some limits to how many patients doctors can see and whatnot, but the reality is that industries actually expand when the customer base does, because they have more money coming in. See: McDonalds or WalMart or any business really. Theres not a finite number of pills out there that will run out, you know. In many aspects, universal health care reduces the infamous wait times in all sorts of ways. If people have more preventive care, for instance, they show up less in the emergency room using truly limited resources and forcing wait times to go up.
But the real ur-debate is this: Is it better to have a system where access to health care is heavily restricted by economic concerns, as long as it allows the wealthy to feel they dont have to rub elbows with the poor? Or should we do what we can to make sure everyone has proper access to health care? I know how I feel about this. While the problems with Obamacare need to be fixed, its because we need to expand health care access. The goal of conservatives is to restrict it, and everything they do makes more sense if you keep that in mind.
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/11/19/the-ur-debate-over-health-care/
bhikkhu
(10,725 posts)which is behind all the opposition to food programs as well, and the raising of the minimum wage. If people are basically lazy and dishonest, as republicans generally preach, then the primary way to get them to work at all is to assure that the basic condition of life is misery, which can only be alleviated (or at least people will try to alleviate it) by working hard.
If people have healthcare and food, the whole republican motivational strategy just becomes even more difficult, and societal collapse seems inevitable.