Remember How Amazing Health Insurance Was Before Obamacare?

[Cha]

REALITY CHECK~



to ACA Helping More and More People in spite of the corporatemediawhore$ attempt to sabotage!

[napkinz]

1. and ...

[Cha]

5. Excellent, napkinz! You always have the

best GRAPHICS!! Good on those Peeps.. can you imagine the relief of stress?

[NYC_SKP]

2. GMO Free Kaua'i!

Just got back but spent the entire week on Oahu. AND, I caught a cold a few days before so ended up at a clinic Thursday morning to get meds.

Still, it's always fun to be there!

One of these days I'll see you!

[Cha]

4. Oh, sorry you got sick over there, SKP!

Hope you're feeling better now.

Don't wait too long

A thread you might be interested in .. pertaining to just such a topic.. "GMO Free Kaua'i"!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024049493

[Pretzel_Warrior]

3. Yeah!

[Cha]

6. Yeah

yourself!

[ProSense]

7. Kick for the memories. n/t

[Cha]

13. LOL..

Mahalo PS!

[kairos12]

8. That is a kick ass post, thanks.

[Voice for Peace]

9. I wanted to post second graphic to FB, but says privacy settings won't permit.

Do you have another link to the graphic?

[Cha]

14. I'll find it, VFP.. I got it on FB

so it should be able to make happen.

Let you know when I get a sec.

[Cha]

45. Alohas Voice for Peace~ Found it!

It's not where I got it from but I tracked it down and this is the source. Hope you get to post if you want.



https://www.facebook.com/4wardUSA

[Voice for Peace]

47. thanks! very kind of you to take the time.

[WowSeriously]

10. This statement is true as far as it goes.

But why didn't Democrats embrace it in 1994 when it was clear that HillaryCare wasn't going to happen?

We could have had this plan in place twenty years ago and we would now be settling for a public option over single payer. As it stands now, we must wait another generation just for that public option, and two generations for single payer.

Foresight, it does a body politic good.

[grantcart]

37. your first point is valid but in other countries the big step was the first step

The incremental increases to single payer came much more quickly.

What will accelerate the process is if one state implements single payer and it works well.

Vermont is now considering that question.

[WowSeriously]

39. I hope so. Unfortunately Vermont can't go live before 2017.

[grantcart]

41. success breeds success.

Get the ACA working and the principle that everyone deserves insurance.

Then work on getting the most efficient system.

[WowSeriously]

44. Yes. Your are correct.

[Wolf Frankula]

11. They Forgot

Pay into a plan for years, get sick, and have your plan cancelled, and you don't even get your money back.

(BTW isn't that fraud?)

Wolf

[Cha]

15. Thanks for the heartbreaking addition, Wolf!

I imagine the insurance companies had all kinds of fraud goin on.

[Revanchist]

12. Don't look at me, I've been using American socialized medicine since I was 17

When I joined the Navy.

[Cha]

16. Good for you, Revanchist. I never had insurance

until I was 65 when I got Medicare. I was fortunate I didn't need it because I couldn't afford it anyway.

[Revanchist]

21. Then you're enjoying socialized medicine also

Can't figure out why they won't let rest of the country use it as well.

[Romulox]

17. Insurers are the worst. So you will be *forced* to buy from them.

Problem solved?

[Iliyah]

18. K & R

Obamacare will succeed. First it have to win the battles that the opposing party keep throwing at it alongwith their lying arse minions, the corporate media aka non-journalist lite.

[Yo_Mama]

19. It sucked - but that doesn't mean we have solved all the problems

ACA is in many ways a step forward, but the whole medical payment system in the US seems broken to me.

[Cha]

22. True True and True. thanks Yo Mama!

[riqster]

30. At some point, we need to decouple the profit motive from health care.

The ACA does a lot of good things, but we have more to do later.

But then, the President called the ACA a "gradual revolution", didn't he? A good thing to remember.

[sheshe2]

20. Excellent thread, Cha!

The Law of the Land!

[Cha]

23. The Law of the Land that's only going

to get better, she. Yeah, we had a rocky start but that doesn't mean we give up because the gopropaganda machine tells us to. Boom.







she

[sheshe2]

24. We have to give some of the credit for a rocky start,

where its due.

The corporate controlled media's spin. The GOP shills on fox etc. The GOP Governors that will not set up exchanges. And the attempts at sabotaging the ACA site and more.

It's going to work, in fact is working and will not only save lives, it saves people money with far better care.

It will be awesome, Cha~

[Cha]

25. Precisely, sheshe.. It was sabotaged in all shapes and sizes by those who told us..

Play~ http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024066669

[sheshe2]

28. Indeed, Cha!

However, to the naysayers, STFU, we got this!

[riqster]

33. Awesome meme, and a good reminder.

[riqster]

26. The pre-ACA system killed my son.

None of the doubters, naysayers, Teabaggers or other anti-Obama types can explain how the old profit-driven model is better than than what the ACA offers. Because, the new system would have keep him alive for longer.

And the old system killed him. Fuck anyone who opposes health care reform:

Here is the story: http://bluntandcranky.wordpress.com/2013/06/25/one-year-ago-today-americas-profit-driven-health-care-system-killed-my-only-son-asterisk-free-post/

[Cha]

27. Oh I'm so sorry to

hear that, riqster!

[riqster]

29. Thanks.

It explains why I am such a fervent advocate for health care reform: I was always focused on it because of my professional knowledge of how the system works, but that made it personal.

Thank you for your advocacy, Cha. That is one thing that helps: seeing other people push for reform of, and access to, health care.

[Cha]

31. I can only imagine that

seeing so many other "people push for reform" would give some comfort because you are the kind of person who doesn't want anyone else to go through what you and your family have, riqster.

[riqster]

32. Very true. They're supposed to bury us, not the other way around.

I know other parents will go through what we did... But let's try to make it as rare as possible.

Thanks again.

[Cha]

34. Wow, riqster.. I just discovered you

are the "Blunt and Cranky".. Good job!

[riqster]

35. Thanks. That lets me reach a non-Dem audience.

I appreciate the kind words.

[grantcart]

36. thanks for this

actual numbers are up

166K signed up

and

539K Medicaid expansion

Latest numbers here

http://obamacaresignups.net/

Though a lot of the numbers haven't been updated yet so expect a big jump in a couple of weeks

[Cha]

38. And, Mahalo for your update on the Numbers and Counting,

grant!

[treestar]

40. Exactly Cha

It was limited to those who never had gotten sick. Ridiculous!

[Cha]

42. Infor that the US corporatemedia$ conveniently

leave out.

It's our job to get the NEWS out, treestar!

[Chisox08]

43. It was shit before Obamacare and it's

slightly less shit now. It's the insurance companies that is the biggest problem with healthcare in America. Even after the ACA they will still put profits over people's lives.

[riqster]

46. Truth. Progress is slow, when there are so many greed heads to deal with.

The ACA is a great first step. We have to push for further changes, and fight the manifold attempts to roll it back.