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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:23 PM Nov 2013

Walmart could pay workers $14.89 an hour without raising prices

Walmart could pay workers $14.89 an hour without raising prices

by Laura Clawson

Walmart can easily afford to raise pay for its low-wage workers by $5.83 an hour, to an average wage of $14.89, a new report from progressive think tank Demos concludes. All the retail giant has to do is stop its massive stock buybacks—which only serve to enrich a shrinking pool of shareholders, not to improve productivity—and put that money toward its workers.

Walmart spends $7.6 billion a year buying back shares of its own stock:

... which reduces the number of shares traded on the market so that the same level of earnings are distributed over fewer owners, making each remaining share worth more. Those owners who keep their stake in the company see the value of their holdings increase even if the company’s performance does not change.

The main owners who have kept their own stake in the company are the Walton family, who now own more than 50 percent of the company. If you're of the "companies should only care about their shareholders" school of thought that's driving the race to the bottom on wages and jobs, consider this:

Even for investors, the intended beneficiaries of a share buyback, the value of this financial maneuver is often illusory. As a prominent business analyst explained to the Wall Street Journal last year, "the evidence overwhelmingly shows that heavy buyback companies usually create less value for shareholders over time… Many managements have become so infatuated with how buybacks increase earnings per share that these distributions are crowding out sound business investments that create more value over time."

Paying workers more or adding worker hours would be a sound business investment for Walmart by reducing worker turnover, which is predictably very high. Or by fixing the problems with bare shelves that have left many customers unhappy. Or by turning the very large Walmart workforce from people who need food donations and government assistance into people who make a living wage and can afford to shop at Walmart.
(Via Salon)

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/19/1256723/-Walmart-could-pay-workers-14-89-an-hour-without-raising-prices

NLRB to Prosecute Wal-Mart For Violating Workers’ Rights (updated)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024053560


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Walmart could pay workers $14.89 an hour without raising prices (Original Post) ProSense Nov 2013 OP
You would think or hope that even the stockholders (Walmart customers, workers themselves, etc.) kelliekat44 Nov 2013 #1
BUT- BUT the Walton children won't be as rich. They would only be multi millionaires instead of diabeticman Nov 2013 #2
They'd still be billionanires Johonny Nov 2013 #11
They could liberal N proud Nov 2013 #3
I love all this shite coming out about walmart's Cha Nov 2013 #4
Been in a Wal-Mart lately? Corruption Inc Nov 2013 #5
Walmart Workers Strike At Seven Stores In Dallas ProSense Nov 2013 #6
As of May, North Dakota cashiers start at about $15/hr. karadax Nov 2013 #7
The point of the OP is that ProSense Nov 2013 #8
Link as requested. karadax Nov 2013 #12
Thanks. They need ProSense Nov 2013 #13
k&r for the truth. n/t Laelth Nov 2013 #9
Sounds good on paper. And something that is long overdue. randome Nov 2013 #10
Cool, I love learning about corporate finance from DU! LOL cbdo2007 Nov 2013 #14
While $14.89 would still be below the minimum wage in Australia, it would be a start. indepat Nov 2013 #15
One Wal-Mart in North Dakoa is paying $17.40 an hour Chuck Finley Jun 2014 #16
The cost of living is also extremely high there octoberlib Jun 2014 #17
Walmart pays better when they have to actually compete for jobs? arcane1 Jun 2014 #18
Yes, both of you are right. But the point is that this proves that Wal-Mart can pay $17.40 an hour.. Chuck Finley Jun 2014 #19
They could start people at $20/hour and still be profitable. arcane1 Jun 2014 #20
 

kelliekat44

(7,759 posts)
1. You would think or hope that even the stockholders (Walmart customers, workers themselves, etc.)
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:28 PM
Nov 2013

would demand from their CEOs, Board members, that they raise the minimum wage.

diabeticman

(3,121 posts)
2. BUT- BUT the Walton children won't be as rich. They would only be multi millionaires instead of
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:31 PM
Nov 2013

billionaires.


The world will come to an end.


Johonny

(20,841 posts)
11. They'd still be billionanires
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:26 AM
Nov 2013

but not as rich a billionaire. I mean it really matters if you have 5 billion you never spend or 14 billion you never spend because you can sleep better at night knowing the workers that make your billions need to beg for food to stay alive.

liberal N proud

(60,334 posts)
3. They could
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 09:32 PM
Nov 2013

But they don't have any problem getting people at the miserable wages they pay. Walmart does not value employee retention. They have a revolving door of employment.

Cha

(297,190 posts)
4. I love all this shite coming out about walmart's
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:34 PM
Nov 2013

nefarious business practices.

Paying a better wage to their workers would mean less money for owners and ceos big shots.

 

Corruption Inc

(1,568 posts)
5. Been in a Wal-Mart lately?
Wed Nov 20, 2013, 10:40 PM
Nov 2013

The people who work there need universal health care as badly as they need a living wage.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
6. Walmart Workers Strike At Seven Stores In Dallas
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:27 AM
Nov 2013
Walmart Workers Strike At Seven Stores In Dallas

By Bryce Covert

On Wednesday, Walmart workers walked off the job in Dallas, a strike that hit seven stores according to OUR Walmart activists, the group that has been organizing strikes and protests against the company.

The strikers joined a group of workers and supporters at a store in Lancaster to call on the company to pay all workers at least $25,000 a year, provide more full-time positions, and end retaliation against those who strike or try to unionize.

The strike in Dallas comes after workers walked out in Chicago, Seattle, and Los Angeles over the past few weeks and dozens walked out of a Miami store in October. They also come ahead of a promise from workers to strike on Black Friday as they did last year, when 400 workers went on strike.

A company spokesperson said that few associates participate in these actions because “they understand the truth about working for Walmart, that it provides more opportunities for career advancement and economic security than any other company in the country.” He also pointed out that despite the same tactics from activists on Black Friday last year, “we had our best Black Friday events ever.”

- more -

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/11/21/2976951/walmart-dallas-strike/



karadax

(284 posts)
7. As of May, North Dakota cashiers start at about $15/hr.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 10:42 AM
Nov 2013

Lots of higher paying jobs are available due to the shale boom so Walmart has to offer more to attract people.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
8. The point of the OP is that
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:01 AM
Nov 2013

"Lots of higher paying jobs are available due to the shale boom so Walmart has to offer more to attract people. "

...Walmart can pay nearly $15 per hour without raising prices. The company can support such an increase.

I suspect the wage you quoted is the fracking industry's attempt to make destroying the environment seem attractive.

Still, got a link to support the claim?





karadax

(284 posts)
12. Link as requested.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:50 AM
Nov 2013

From this past July:
Walmart Optimistic They'll Fill 300 Jobs For New North Dakota Store


Nearly anywhere else in the country, people can't find jobs. In North Dakota, jobs can't find people.

How hard is it to hire Walmart employees? Turns out, plenty.

A new store in Mandan, North Dakota, needs 300 employees trained and ready for a Fall opening. The problem? The town's population is only 18,000.

Even considering the additional 62,000 people across the river in Bismarck, it's still difficult. One reason -- Bismarck already has two Walmart stores. Another is the smoking hot North Dakota economy where "help wanted" and "now hiring" signs are in already in abundant supply. "It is quite the task ahead of us," says Andrew Coppersmith, Store Manager for the new Walmart store in Mandan.

Even so, Walmart is hopeful. From health insurance to 401k, officials say they've got lots to offer -- whether you are a career changer or just starting out. In fact, the new store manager in Mandan started with the company just seven years ago. "We've got a number of supervisory roles available that can help jump start a career change. If you're looking for just a part-time job, just a little supplemental income, we've got that," says Coppersmith.

They're actively recruiting military too. The Walmart "Veterans Welcome Home Commitment" Program offers a job to any qualified vet honorably discharged within the past 12 months. Coppersmith points out, "those are the first applicants that we're looking at."

Walmart says they're competitive with an average pay in North Dakota at more than $14 dollars an hour. So if you're ready, they're willing. Because ready or not, the store opens this Fall.


The situation in North Dakota while unique demonstrates that if an equally massive company such as McDonalds raised their wages Walmart would have to do the same. By not doing so they would risk losing some of their labor force to the higher wage jobs.

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
13. Thanks. They need
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 12:08 PM
Nov 2013
A new store in Mandan, North Dakota, needs 300 employees trained and ready for a Fall opening. The problem? The town's population is only 18,000.

Even considering the additional 62,000 people across the river in Bismarck, it's still difficult. One reason -- Bismarck already has two Walmart stores. Another is the smoking hot North Dakota economy where "help wanted" and "now hiring" signs are in already in abundant supply. "It is quite the task ahead of us," says Andrew Coppersmith, Store Manager for the new Walmart store in Mandan.

...three Walmarts to serve 80,000 people? It's beyond strange that they're offering hire wages and benefits where they can't find employees, but are screwing employees in more populated regions across the country.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
10. Sounds good on paper. And something that is long overdue.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:07 AM
Nov 2013

But isn't this ignoring the unpleasant fact that Wal-Mart is a corporation? If they take any steps to lessen that 'shrinking pool of stockholders', wouldn't a lawsuit be the result?
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indepat

(20,899 posts)
15. While $14.89 would still be below the minimum wage in Australia, it would be a start.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:01 PM
Nov 2013

Wal-mart imo has been a scourge, a virulent pox. on America. The proof is in their entire manner of operation, in their business plan.

 

Chuck Finley

(12 posts)
16. One Wal-Mart in North Dakoa is paying $17.40 an hour
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:25 AM
Jun 2014

The article says that fracking has made it possible to access oil which had previously been unobtainable. This has driven the unemployment rate to less than 1% in the city where this Wal-Mart is located.

This presents an interesting situation for anyone who favors higher wages while simultaneously opposing fracking, i.e, a large percentage of the U.S. population. Tradeoffs are a common part of life, and I am interested in hearing what other people think of this situation.



http://dailysignal.com/2014/06/10/drilling-innovation-forcing-walmart-north-dakota-pay-17-40-hour/

Why One Walmart in North Dakota Is Paying $17.40 an Hour

June 10, 2014



A Walmart store in Williston, N.D., is offering to pay entry-level workers as much as $17.40 per hour…

… the historic oil boom in North Dakota has provided real, sustained growth in wages and lowered unemployment in North Dakota to 2.6 percent—the lowest statewide rate in the nation—and to less than 1 percent in Williston, which is near the oil fields in the western part of the state.

Those jobs are safe for the foreseeable future, too. Last year, a study conducted by the United States Geological Service estimated conservatively that 7.4 billion barrels of recoverable oil sit beneath North Dakota. Scientists have long known about these oil reserves, but two miles of solid rock precluded development. Recent advances in hydraulic fracturing and smart drilling technology have made production possible and triggered the present economic boom.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
17. The cost of living is also extremely high there
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 10:45 AM
Jun 2014

Rent in Williston, N.D. tops averages in New York City and Los Angeles
The North Dakota town in the midst of an oil boom is rapidly growing, seeing its population double to 30,000 since the 2010 Census. The average rent is $2,394 a month for a 700-square-foot, one-bedroom apartment, according to numbers released by Apartment Guide. That beats New York's average of $1,504 and L.A.'s $1,411-a-month tally for comparable space.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/real-estate/average-rent-williston-n-tops-costs-nyc-article-1.1617187#ixzz34LGTUVQ1

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
18. Walmart pays better when they have to actually compete for jobs?
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 11:32 AM
Jun 2014

Those fracking jobs will come and go, and when they go they will never come back. Then we'll see what Wally-world does.

 

Chuck Finley

(12 posts)
19. Yes, both of you are right. But the point is that this proves that Wal-Mart can pay $17.40 an hour..
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:32 PM
Jun 2014

... and still make a profit.

The article from the OP was about a study of theoretically paying higher wages. My article is a real world example of it being done.

If this Wal-Mart can pay $17.40 an hour and still remain profitable, then so can all of the other Wal-Marts in the country.

 

arcane1

(38,613 posts)
20. They could start people at $20/hour and still be profitable.
Wed Jun 11, 2014, 12:47 PM
Jun 2014

The Walton freeloaders can't figure out any decent uses for their wealth, so they may as well take a 10% pay cut. They'll still have more money than their descendants could ever spend.

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