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Warpy

(111,255 posts)
1. The whole thing has been handled very badly
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:22 AM
Nov 2013

and future generations will curse us for being stupid enough to allow the spread of resistant bugs from the hospital out to the community while allowing antibiotics to be used in livestock so they could be inhumanely crowded together, creating resistant bugs there.

Scrub privileges and shoe covers would have stopped a lot of the spread into the community, something they've done in Europe where their hospitals aren't as concerned with squeezing profit out of everything.

Antibiotics should never have been allowed as prophylaxis in livestock. Period.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
2. So Warpy. How sacred should we be when are admitted to the Hospital
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:34 AM
Nov 2013

for a surgery? In your opinion..

ReRe

(10,597 posts)
11. Warpy must be unavailable, so let me....
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 11:24 AM
Nov 2013

... take a stab at your question. I read the article from top to bottom. Former health field employee, here. Understood the whole article. "How sacred should we be when admitted to the Hospital for surgery?" I would say, take your cross, some Holy water, and a whole bunch of those Chlorox Clean-up Wipes. Chlorox wipes for your family to wipe the rails of your bed down, the remote control for the TV and nurses station, door knobs... anything that anyone, even hospital staff, touches. That's at least all you and family can control. Then you'll just have to pray that implements & surgery equipment, tubing, all the rest that might be hooked up to your body is not covered in this antibiotic resistant bacteria. There was an excellent episode on PBS' FrontLine a few weeks ago on this subject.

Go watch it. Now. (Just a suggestion.)

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
12. I've had multiple eye surgeries over several years
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:50 PM
Nov 2013

and the policy of keeping the OR as close to sterile as possible has worked.

Infection is always a risk with surgery and most infections are non resistant bugs.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
5. You're absolutely right about the livestock thing; its been out of control for too long.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:41 AM
Nov 2013

Something like ridiculous quantities, for no other reason than a cost-cutting shortcut.

Negligence on a planetary scale.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)
7. And don't forget the antibiotic load in human and animal waste
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:21 AM
Nov 2013

That's the one that keeps me up nights...

LuvNewcastle

(16,844 posts)
3. This is yet another article that's making me consider
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 05:35 AM
Nov 2013

giving up meat. There might be a few exceptions, like fresh seafood that hasn't been treated with antibiotics, but eating meat in general is becoming a health risk. I think just about all the livestock raised these days are treated with a bunch of different drugs, and I'm very concerned about that. I feel like I should stop eating it before it becomes a serious problem. I really do enjoy a lot of different meats and dairy, so it would be hard for me to do.

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
10. I can get local meat
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 09:12 AM
Nov 2013

pasture raised with no antibiotics.

But then, I live somewhat rurally. I drive by those pastures every day to and from work. I don't eat much meat these days, but when I want it, I can get it clean of hormones and antibiotics.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
8. Yes, I gave it up couple years ago. Esp. anything in a package & fast food.
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 07:34 AM
Nov 2013

And I'm not sorry, once you get used to it, it's cheaper, feels good, and it's not hard. I still use dairy (all the time) and eggs now and then.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
13. Health food stores here sell organic meat
Thu Nov 21, 2013, 03:53 PM
Nov 2013

that is hormone and antibiotic free. It's more expensive because the animals aren't packed together in a factory operation. I don't eat a lot of meat and this is what I stick to.

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