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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 10:52 AM Nov 2013

If the worst happens and we have a GOP Senate

We would know that in November, the start of lame duck, right?

So, why not switch the rules back to 60 then ?

Let them change it back to 51 like we did and everyone could throw their words today back in their face?

Hey, it would add a bit of fun in what would be a very dismal time.

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If the worst happens and we have a GOP Senate (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2013 OP
it would make us look like craven opportunists nt el_bryanto Nov 2013 #1
At this point BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #2
Good point. That is one benefit of have a congressional approval rating Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2013 #3
And we are in the 11th hour of the planet BlueToTheBone Nov 2013 #16
Yes, craven opportunists for a functional govt. Heresy! JaneyVee Nov 2013 #4
Ummm - you may not have read the OP el_bryanto Nov 2013 #6
not really. Of course we know it benefits anyone in power....what I am saying is just switch it Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2013 #11
Exactly - and that's craven opportunism. el_bryanto Nov 2013 #13
sorry...still missing my drift - only do it to point out their hypocrisy. everyone at this point Laura PourMeADrink Nov 2013 #15
And it would expose them as craven hypocrites. Berlum Nov 2013 #5
How about we all work together to make sure that doesn't happen? MineralMan Nov 2013 #7
What a crazy idea! HappyMe Nov 2013 #8
If they legitimately elect a Senate and a President, that's democracy and they geek tragedy Nov 2013 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Laelth Nov 2013 #10
Conviction still requires 67 votes NYC Liberal Nov 2013 #12
You're right, of course. Laelth Nov 2013 #14
Only a third of the Senators stand for election, most incumbents win FarCenter Nov 2013 #17
That's not really relevant to the OP Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #18
The continuity in the Senate makes the OP's scenario improbable FarCenter Nov 2013 #19
GOP shutting down government for 2 weeks was improbable Pretzel_Warrior Nov 2013 #20
 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
3. Good point. That is one benefit of have a congressional approval rating
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 10:59 AM
Nov 2013

a notch above zero - you can do what the hell you want.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
6. Ummm - you may not have read the OP
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 11:17 AM
Nov 2013

That's the one where we say that shutting off the Filibuster (which is a good idea) for these nominations is fine for us, but when our political oponents get back into power we turn it back on.

Bryant

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
11. not really. Of course we know it benefits anyone in power....what I am saying is just switch it
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 11:24 AM
Nov 2013

back at the last minute JUST to watch them eat their words when they pull the same thing and switch it
back to 51...."Power Grab", etc.

el_bryanto

(11,804 posts)
13. Exactly - and that's craven opportunism.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 11:27 AM
Nov 2013

Either we think getting rid of the filibuster for judicial positions/other nominations is a good idea or we don't. We can't think it's a good idea when we have power and a bad idea when they have power or it becomes craven opportunism.

Bryant

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
15. sorry...still missing my drift - only do it to point out their hypocrisy. everyone at this point
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 11:35 AM
Nov 2013

knows full well how to switch it. It wouldn't make sense for us to switch it back to 60 - knowing full well
they could switch it back to 51

Berlum

(7,044 posts)
5. And it would expose them as craven hypocrites.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 11:14 AM
Nov 2013

I'd rather be an opportunist than a stinkin phony hypocrite.

 

geek tragedy

(68,868 posts)
9. If they legitimately elect a Senate and a President, that's democracy and they
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 11:22 AM
Nov 2013

should be able to pass legislation and appoint nominees.

Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
14. You're right, of course.
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 11:28 AM
Nov 2013

I'm deleting my post. Don't want to mis-inform or cause unnecessary panic. My bad.

-Laelth

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
17. Only a third of the Senators stand for election, most incumbents win
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:41 PM
Nov 2013

So the "lame duck" Senate and the next Senate would consist of essentially the same members, except for a small number of seats retired or lost.

 

FarCenter

(19,429 posts)
19. The continuity in the Senate makes the OP's scenario improbable
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:50 PM
Nov 2013

Besides, the Senators tend to be independent, and getting enough Ds to do it is improbable.

 

Pretzel_Warrior

(8,361 posts)
20. GOP shutting down government for 2 weeks was improbable
Fri Nov 22, 2013, 12:53 PM
Nov 2013

In that it has been a rare event. Yet it happened. Changing senate filibuster rules was improbable. Yet it happened.

There's no telling what either side will do in this climate.

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