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ProSense

(116,464 posts)
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:04 PM Nov 2013

The good Obamacare news bubbles up

The good Obamacare news bubbles up

by Joan McCarter

There's a silver lining to all the Obamacare rate-shock horror stories right-wing media have been feeding into the mainstream over the past week: good journalists have been both debunking those stories, and countering the the stories of people whose lives are made much easier with the options they have under the law. Here are a few, courtesy Michael Hiltzik at the Los Angeles Times.

Last summer Ellen Holzman and Meredith Vezina, a married gay couple in San Diego County, got kicked off their long-term Kaiser health plan, for which they'd been paying more than $1,300 a month. The cause wasn't the Affordable Care Act, as far as they knew. They'd been living outside Kaiser's service area, and the health plan had decided to tighten its rules. <...> Through Covered California, the state's individual insurance marketplace, they've found a plan through Sharp Healthcare that will cover them both for a total premium of $142 a month, after a government subsidy based on their income. They'll have a higher deductible than Kaiser's but lower co-pays. But their possible savings will be impressive. <...>

David Shevlino, 51, is an artist in Delaware. Between the COBRA policy that extends the coverage his wife, Kathy, received at a former job and the bare-bones policy that covers himself and their 15-year-old son, they've been laying out $1,000 a month in premiums. Next year they'll pay $650 a month, after the government subsidy, for a plan through Blue Cross of Delaware that covers the entire family and provides many services that have been excluded up to now.

That makes a big difference, especially for Kathy, who is still dealing with injuries she suffered in a cycling accident and that would have made her uninsurable once her COBRA ran out less than a year from now. <...>

And Judith Silverstein, 49, a Californian who was diagnosed with multiple sclerosis in 2007. Her family helps her pay the $750 monthly cost of her existing plan--which she only had because of federal law requiring that insurers who provide employer-based insurance continue to offer coverage if the employer goes out of business, as hers did. Next year she'll get a subsidy that will get her a good "silver" level plan for $50. <...>

Jason Noble, 44, who has his own property management firm in Southern California, found a gold plan that will cover his wife and their three children--a daughter, 9, and 5-year-old twins--for a little less than $1,300 a month. That's slightly more than they'd be paying next year for their existing Blue Shield plan, but the benefits are much greater, including pediatric dental coverage. Their family deductible will fall from $3,400 to zero. Last year, the family had a health scare that ran them $1,800 in out-of-pocket expenses; a similar event next year would cost them nothing. "It's definitely a good deal," Noble says.

Then there are all those people who are glad to see their junk plans cancelled. They know they're junk plans, and even if they're paying more for premiums, they know that they'll be getting much, much better coverage and might even end up saving money with lower deductibles and preventive services with no copay.

These stories are vital reminders that there was a really good reason for insurance reform, for Obamacare. They're also the backdrop to all those polls that show the American people reject the idea of scrapping the law and going back to the way it was. Meanwhile, Republicans are still staking 2014 and 2016 on repeal, which is pretty much all they got at this point.

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2013/11/26/1258553/-The-good-Obamacare-news-bubbles-nbsp-up

Obamacare is a Done Deal
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024096497

Paul Krugman: The Whole Horrors-of-Obamacare Meme Will Be Gone in Weeks, Not Months
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024096519

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The good Obamacare news bubbles up (Original Post) ProSense Nov 2013 OP
KnR Hekate Nov 2013 #1
There's going to be too many positive stories to be ignored. JoePhilly Nov 2013 #2
K & R Scurrilous Nov 2013 #3
After 8 years of non-governance by the BFEE Rex Nov 2013 #4
CuidadoDeSalud.gov Coming Soon ProSense Nov 2013 #5
It took me several tries... ISW Nov 2013 #6
tempted to print this and give it to my low-info neighbor..... BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #7
you want I should kick some low-info neighbor ass, BlancheSplanchnik? Skittles Nov 2013 #8
baahaaaaa!!!!! you make a tempting offer! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #12
my neighbor told me Obama isn't really American even if he was born in Hawaii Skittles Nov 2013 #17
I can imagine the wires sputtering BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #23
I turn off Fux wherever I see it on mdbl Nov 2013 #9
me too. charlives Nov 2013 #10
me too. haven't seen it around lately thank god! BlancheSplanchnik Nov 2013 #13
Faux "news" is registered as an ENTERTAINMENT channel ... caledesi Nov 2013 #14
Just in time for Holiday Family Conversation... NYC_SKP Nov 2013 #11
ACA will be "our finest hour" ... napkinz Nov 2013 #15
ACA Signup Success Stories! napkinz Nov 2013 #16
To the Bubbling, ProSense!.. Cha Nov 2013 #18
I'll drink to that! sheshe2 Nov 2013 #19
To the good news bubbling over, she~ Cha Nov 2013 #21
Yes! The news is bubbling up and over... sheshe2 Nov 2013 #24
K&R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! sheshe2 Nov 2013 #20
Success! napkinz Nov 2013 #22
more good news from HHS napkinz Nov 2013 #25
Nice! n/t ProSense Nov 2013 #26
NC Navigator with good story Lyta2000 Nov 2013 #27
kick Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #28
excellent Liberal_in_LA Nov 2013 #29
 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
4. After 8 years of non-governance by the BFEE
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 04:17 PM
Nov 2013

it is wonderful having a POTUS so engaged in governing the nation correctly!

OH and I will NEVER stop calling it Obamacare...I love how it pisses off the locals here.

ISW

(81 posts)
6. It took me several tries...
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 05:43 PM
Nov 2013

But I was finally able to complete signing up. I will save around $1500.00 per year and basically have the same coverage as my COBRA. Thank You President Obama!!!

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
7. tempted to print this and give it to my low-info neighbor.....
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 06:04 PM
Nov 2013

Who's pissed about...all the fux talking points. But denies he watches fux. Obama "cried like a little baby when he didn't get his way, and shoved it down our throats." ---wonder where he got that line?

Ugh. Wish I hadn't even attempted to reply.

Skittles

(153,156 posts)
8. you want I should kick some low-info neighbor ass, BlancheSplanchnik?
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 06:29 PM
Nov 2013

I am an expert - I have lots of experience with that in Texas; yes INDEED.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
12. baahaaaaa!!!!! you make a tempting offer!
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 07:06 PM
Nov 2013

Sooo many asses that need kicking! Not to mention how therapeutic that would be--FOR ME!!!

Kick hard enough and maybe it'll knock his brain back into his head?


Actually, he's a nice guy otherwise....and he's mentioned that his wife doesn't share his political views. I wonder how that plays out at home? I was with someone with "differing views" and it didn't work too well. (OK, the abuse and alcoholism was the bottom line problem. )

Haven't seen him since he picked that argument with me though.....I figure when I do see him again, I'll just be my sunny self. If he brings up politics I'll do what I *said* I would last time: not discuss it!! So there!!!


PS. Oh dear... Texas. Ai yi yi. I thought it was bad when I lived in a rural part of western NY that's very dumb red. But Texas. Oy va voy!

Skittles

(153,156 posts)
17. my neighbor told me Obama isn't really American even if he was born in Hawaii
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 09:14 PM
Nov 2013

because his dad was Kenyan.....I told him, well, that would make ME not American because even though I was born in America my mum was a Brit! That SOOOOOOO confused him.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
23. I can imagine the wires sputtering
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 11:40 PM
Nov 2013

In his tiny brain!

My dad was a Brit too!! And Jewish. Your neighbor would reenact the scene from Scanners on that one!

Pip pip, ducks!

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
9. I turn off Fux wherever I see it on
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 06:30 PM
Nov 2013

If I am in a public place, i turn the channel. If I'm in a bar, I ask the bartender to turn the channel. If they don't change it, I leave.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
13. me too. haven't seen it around lately thank god!
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 07:12 PM
Nov 2013

It was on in one of the buildings at the college I work at a couple years ago. This big tv right in the front entrance. I went right to the dean's office and told them I didn't think that was appropriate. Sounded like they agreed and it was not the approved channel...

caledesi

(11,903 posts)
14. Faux "news" is registered as an ENTERTAINMENT channel ...
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 07:22 PM
Nov 2013

Gee, I wonder why? Could it their constant lies?

 

NYC_SKP

(68,644 posts)
11. Just in time for Holiday Family Conversation...
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 06:57 PM
Nov 2013

I will be avoiding the topic altogether in the interest of calmness.

Cha

(297,187 posts)
21. To the good news bubbling over, she~
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 11:30 PM
Nov 2013

American Citizens are the Winners to all our Good Health in perpetuity

sheshe2

(83,751 posts)
24. Yes! The news is bubbling up and over...
Tue Nov 26, 2013, 11:41 PM
Nov 2013

The sad news is the GOP is still playing trickle down. Yet this time they are trickling down the drain. Get some extra strenght drano and we can flush them the rest of the way, Cha.

Lyta2000

(3 posts)
27. NC Navigator with good story
Wed Nov 27, 2013, 10:21 PM
Nov 2013

I helped a lady get her coverage. She was paying $125 month for a plan with $10000 deductible. Got her a $0.0 deductible for $23 month that actually pays for things. Yeah!

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