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DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:04 PM Nov 2013

How do they make Hot Dogs where you live?

http://www.seriouseats.com/2008/07/america-regional-hot-dog-styles-coneys-half-smokes-reds-whites.html

This started because of another thread, but as I used to sell Hot Dogs, I was curious, namely because I never realized there were so many variants on the hot dog. It is not politics, I know, but it is American, as we have adopted Hot Dogs as an American food, yet have variants, which might say something about us.
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How do they make Hot Dogs where you live? (Original Post) DonCoquixote Nov 2013 OP
Coneys Cal Carpenter Nov 2013 #1
I've taken people from across the globe to Lafayette for their first coney. last1standing Nov 2013 #8
first arrive after someone hits deer with their minivan, probuably lost tourist loli phabay Nov 2013 #2
It's one of our many local Chicago secrets -- Hot Doug's. ancianita Nov 2013 #3
There are two competing popular hot dogs here. Curmudgeoness Nov 2013 #4
Coney Island dogs in Indiana, PA and New Castle too. Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #46
There is a "Brighton Hot Dog Shoppe" chain which started 50 years ago in New Brighton, PA. John1956PA Nov 2013 #56
I've had those, too! Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #70
I used to go to New Castle often for Coney Island. Curmudgeoness Nov 2013 #71
How they are really made... PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #5
oh god Oscarmonster13 Nov 2013 #10
when i lived in NYC i loved the hot dogs DesertFlower Nov 2013 #6
Also loved them with the mustard and sauerkraut usually, occasionally with onions PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #13
also loved nathan's hot dogs. sometimes DesertFlower Nov 2013 #25
Dirty water dogs - YUM!! smokey nj Nov 2013 #49
There are these short little cheddar wurst sausages. alphafemale Nov 2013 #53
Broiled until they just start to pucker up and sing. alphafemale Nov 2013 #55
My brother and I had a stand in southern New Hampshire... catnhatnh Nov 2013 #7
Most of the street vendors up here Blue_In_AK Nov 2013 #9
Los Angeles - the Bacon Wrapped Hot Dog, trackfan Nov 2013 #11
Coming out of the LA Convention Center a few weeks ago Codeine Nov 2013 #66
Chicago hot dogs come in one particular way frazzled Nov 2013 #12
I have enjoyed C dogs DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #14
Interesting, seems more like a whole meal than a hot dog. n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #15
No ketchup and that relish is best when unaturally green !! lunasun Nov 2013 #30
It's funny that Chicagoans would put a tossed salad on top of their hot dog, and then Sheldon Cooper Nov 2013 #45
I prefer mustard and sauerkraut. octoberlib Nov 2013 #16
so you guys are the slaw dogs DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #18
Yep. Slaw on hamburgers too. octoberlib Nov 2013 #23
coneys but actually, in the plains states a hot dog pipoman Nov 2013 #17
MMMM DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #20
The best hot dog is a tofu pup solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #19
I do like Tofu DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #21
Try one! solarhydrocan Nov 2013 #26
Soybeans are magic. Codeine Nov 2013 #68
I have seen Lightlife products in my local Kroger, RebelOne Nov 2013 #24
Try the Tofurky kielbasas grilled and slathered in mustard. Codeine Nov 2013 #67
We have ours shipped in pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #22
The things you can order on the Internet these days... n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #29
Of course, you have to harvest them first pinboy3niner Nov 2013 #33
Hebrew National. tammywammy Nov 2013 #27
+1000 for Hebrew Nationals Tom Ripley Nov 2013 #39
Yep, they're kosher, they're halal, they cost more, but you know there aren't MADem Nov 2013 #51
estilo sonora! Kali Nov 2013 #28
I would eat that! MADem Nov 2013 #52
The OG foodies of Northern California would not be caught dead eating a hot dog. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #31
they would if it were renamed, on artisan bread and cost 5x as much... n/t PoliticAverse Nov 2013 #34
Organic artisinal sausages? Yes. They'd eat the hell out of that. But a hot dog? Hell no. LeftyMom Nov 2013 #35
I grew up in Maine and thought REAL hot dogs had a red casing. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #32
Kayem still makes them and they are redder than that photo jpak Nov 2013 #57
Also thought that "all beef" hotdogs were weird. Gormy Cuss Nov 2013 #65
Boiled! Agschmid Nov 2013 #36
Regional preferences are why there are no powerhouse national hot dog chains Tom Ripley Nov 2013 #37
I agree DonCoquixote Nov 2013 #73
They scrape the cutting boards. demosincebirth Nov 2013 #38
I don't know since the only kosher dogs are Hebrew National sakabatou Nov 2013 #40
Mmmmmmmmmmmmm... Pinks. Initech Nov 2013 #41
Texas can't do hot dogs. The only great hot dog is a Detroit Coney Dog. ScreamingMeemie Nov 2013 #42
James' Coney Island in downtown Houston TexasProgresive Nov 2013 #48
"Get yer Red Hots!" at Tiger Stadium. longship Nov 2013 #43
Not sure about hot but these two look pretty cool dipsydoodle Nov 2013 #44
Middle Georgia is home to a unique franchise called "Nu-Way." Laelth Nov 2013 #47
nu-way is unique. Sheri Nov 2013 #64
on rollers. at gas stations :( rucky Nov 2013 #50
Only one way for Detroiters...... marmar Nov 2013 #54
With loving care in a little mousy sweatshop. randome Nov 2013 #58
Split and grilled, at Walter's. . . DinahMoeHum Nov 2013 #59
Kinda like this: MineralMan Nov 2013 #60
Nathan's Famous Longer than the Bun MineralMan Nov 2013 #61
Hot Dogs at Cafe George V (Paris) GladRagDahl Nov 2013 #62
Ted's from Buffalo NY blueamy66 Nov 2013 #63
Yocco's Hot Dogs, Allentown PA Freddie Nov 2013 #69
In my part of the country there are artisan versions of hot dogs being made and sold. nt bluestate10 Nov 2013 #72

Cal Carpenter

(4,959 posts)
1. Coneys
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:07 PM
Nov 2013

Southeast Michigan.

It's generally the only time I ever eat hot dogs anymore - at a nice little coney diner, maybe a few times a year.. Mmmmmmmmmmmm.... delicious. Albeit rather gluttonous

last1standing

(11,709 posts)
8. I've taken people from across the globe to Lafayette for their first coney.
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:38 PM
Nov 2013

Nearly without exception the reaction has gone from utter disgust to culinary amazement. Not always in the same day but rarely has anyone not asked to go back during a later visit.

Two with everything, fries and a rootbeer for me, thanks.

 

loli phabay

(5,580 posts)
2. first arrive after someone hits deer with their minivan, probuably lost tourist
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:09 PM
Nov 2013

Remove coats said tourists have put on deer to keep it warm, shoot deer to humanely euthanize said deer. Call buddy with truck to come get it. Watch as it disappears into his garage, pick up deer sausage, jerky and steaks couple of days later.

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
4. There are two competing popular hot dogs here.
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:19 PM
Nov 2013

One would be the coneys (chili, mustard, onions). The other is a hot dog with sauerkraut.

Odd that they say coneys are "Midwest", but we are in PA.

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
46. Coney Island dogs in Indiana, PA and New Castle too.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 07:11 AM
Nov 2013

And two hots with everything from the Hot Dog Shop in Butler. Yummy. It's 6:00 AM and I'm hungry for a hot dog!

John1956PA

(2,654 posts)
56. There is a "Brighton Hot Dog Shoppe" chain which started 50 years ago in New Brighton, PA.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 10:13 AM
Nov 2013

The chain now has eleven restaurants locations. One is located at 112 Alameda Plaza, Butler, PA.

The chain is popular for its "chili dogs" and for its hot dogs with "everything" (i. e., chili, mustard, and onions).

Curmudgeoness

(18,219 posts)
71. I used to go to New Castle often for Coney Island.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 04:39 PM
Nov 2013

We have some good hot dog shops closer to home for me now, so I don't go all the way to New Castle now.....unless I am in the mood for Pagley's pasta.

Oscarmonster13

(209 posts)
10. oh god
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:41 PM
Nov 2013

there's no WAY I am watching that! The still shot is enough to make you

ewwwww!


But to answer the OP, I like my hot dogs from Kasper's in Oakland, CA...used to go there as a kid. steamed buns, the dog actually 'popped' when you bit it...they were SOOOOOO good! ketchup, mustard and maybe a couple tomato slices...

DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
6. when i lived in NYC i loved the hot dogs
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:27 PM
Nov 2013

from the street vendors with mustard and sauerkraut. also the street vendors had the best falafals.

now i buy hebrew national reduced fat and cook them at home. sometimes i broil them -- other times i steam them in sauerkraut.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
13. Also loved them with the mustard and sauerkraut usually, occasionally with onions
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:45 PM
Nov 2013

instead of the sauerkraut. And a knish!


DesertFlower

(11,649 posts)
25. also loved nathan's hot dogs. sometimes
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 12:36 AM
Nov 2013

we'd drive to coney island just for hot dogs. then one opened near times square -- a few blocks from where i worked.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
53. There are these short little cheddar wurst sausages.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:57 AM
Nov 2013

I forget the brand.

Serve those up with some kraut browned onion and brown mustard.

yum

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
55. Broiled until they just start to pucker up and sing.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 10:06 AM
Nov 2013

Then mustard and onion.

People who put ketchup on a hotdog should be publicly mocked.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
7. My brother and I had a stand in southern New Hampshire...
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:37 PM
Nov 2013

Top seller was bacon/chili/cheese. Maple Leaf natural casing wrapped with bacon, deep fried, and topped with a meat chili sauce and cheddar cheese. Some do use celery salt up here...

Blue_In_AK

(46,436 posts)
9. Most of the street vendors up here
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:41 PM
Nov 2013

sell reindeer sausages, but they're only out in the summertime. You can get whatever you want on them.

trackfan

(3,650 posts)
11. Los Angeles - the Bacon Wrapped Hot Dog,
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:42 PM
Nov 2013

which, I think, originated in Mexico, actually. The street vendors here sell them, and they're darn good, slathered with onions and peppers.

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
66. Coming out of the LA Convention Center a few weeks ago
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 12:41 PM
Nov 2013

I was amazed at the sheer number of bacon dog vendors -- they were literally everywhere you turned on the sidewalks. And every cart was doing brisk business. I guess a bunch of hungry comic book nerds represent a natural customer base for bacon-wrapped anything.

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
12. Chicago hot dogs come in one particular way
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:45 PM
Nov 2013

and must be put together in a particular order. Anything else is not a true Chicago hot dog.

It starts with a steamed poppyseed bun, into which a Vienna Beef hot dog is nestled. Then toppings are added in the following order, with no variations: yellow mustard, bright green relish, fresh chopped onions, red tomato wedges, a kosher-style pickle spear, a couple of spicy sport peppers and finally, a dash of celery salt.





These are the only condiments permitted. NO KETCHUP! Ketchup is anathema.



DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
14. I have enjoyed C dogs
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:48 PM
Nov 2013

But I have to confess, even I, former Hot Dog Vendor, am amazed at the technical detail. It's not fast food, it's engineering!

Sheldon Cooper

(3,724 posts)
45. It's funny that Chicagoans would put a tossed salad on top of their hot dog, and then
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 07:08 AM
Nov 2013

get all huffy over a squirt of ketchup. Makes no sense.

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
16. I prefer mustard and sauerkraut.
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:53 PM
Nov 2013

Here, in NC , they put coleslaw on every damn thing. My favorite hot dog is the Dirty Jerz( Sauerkraut, Pickle Relish, Diced Onions, Deli Mustard)at JJ's Red Hots.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
18. so you guys are the slaw dogs
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:59 PM
Nov 2013

That explains it, as Florida just got a chain called Thornton's...they explaiend they like slaw where they come from, which is why they offer it...

octoberlib

(14,971 posts)
23. Yep. Slaw on hamburgers too.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 12:06 AM
Nov 2013

I was raised in the mid west and had never heard of such a thing. It isn't bad , I just prefer sauerkraut.

 

pipoman

(16,038 posts)
17. coneys but actually, in the plains states a hot dog
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:59 PM
Nov 2013

is a hot dog...regions are more sausage driven here..A lot of cultural sausages. I grew up in a swede community..they did potato sausage and another sort of bland sausage, I can't remember..I am now a chef in a Low German, Swiss, and Russian Mennonite community..they have adopted a smokey "German sausage"..small grocery stores and ethnic meat markets become well known for their German sausage..

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
20. MMMM
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 12:02 AM
Nov 2013

We have some mennonites here in Florida, so I would probably be familiar with some of the sausages, and my familar I mean eat them. I used to hate the idea of eating Deer, and I still do, considering I used to see deer at my house in PA. But I unwittingly ate a Venison sausage, made in a german style, and I am ashamed to admit it was delicious, though I would never order it again for fear that it was the relative of some of my old friends the deer.

solarhydrocan

(551 posts)
19. The best hot dog is a tofu pup
Fri Nov 29, 2013, 11:59 PM
Nov 2013

grill 'em till they're almost black. Most regular hot dog eaters can't tell the difference.





Ingredients

Water, soy protein isolate, soy oil, organic spray dried tofu (organic dehulled soybeans, calcium sulfate), contains 2% or less natural flavors (from vegetable sources), beet powder, yeast extract, sunflower oil, natural smoke flavor, salt, paprika oleoresin, vegetable gums, tomato pulp.


Mmm good, and good for you!

Lightlife also makes a meat free hamburger that is to die for.
http://www.lightlife.com/Vegan-Food-Vegetarian-Diet/Vegetarian-Burgers/Vegetarian-Grilling-Burgers

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
21. I do like Tofu
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 12:04 AM
Nov 2013

though I cannot imagine how it could make a good dog. Now I have seen Tofu made to taste like Ricotta cheese, but a hot dog?

solarhydrocan

(551 posts)
26. Try one!
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 12:43 AM
Nov 2013

If you don't like it take the remaining package back and say it smells funny. Free test.

Seriously, these tofu pups are really good. Some Lightlife products are fantastic and some are kind of so so. Tofu pups are beyond fantastic. I've been eating them for more than a decade.

A blind taste test both surprised and angered friends. LOL

 

Codeine

(25,586 posts)
68. Soybeans are magic.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 12:45 PM
Nov 2013

Food scientists can do remarkable things with soy proteins -- delicious soy hotdogs are one of the best.

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
27. Hebrew National.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 12:43 AM
Nov 2013

I'll eat them any way, except with sauerkraut. I detest sauerkraut. But chili dog, Chicago dog, mustard/relish/cheddar, bacon & grilled onions, and anything else they can think of.

During Oktoberfest I had an awesome bratwurst with brown mustard, crispy bacon and grilled onions.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
51. Yep, they're kosher, they're halal, they cost more, but you know there aren't
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:54 AM
Nov 2013

a lot of eyeballs and assholes up in that mix!

I don't do hotdogs a lot, but when I do, I spend the money and go for the HN ones!

Kali

(55,007 posts)
28. estilo sonora!
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 12:46 AM
Nov 2013

Get a beef hot dog and wrap it like a mummy with bacon. Mesquite bacon is good.
Fry it on a griddle until the bacon gets crisp. Some people like to fry the bacon a little first and then wrap it around the hot dog and then fry them both in the bacon grease.
Take a hot dog bun or bolillo roll that has been slit to make a pocket in the middle. If you want you can toast them a little or, in the case of the bolillo roll, steam it for a minute to make it soft. Work with what you have on hand or what you feel like.
Put mayo, mustard and ketchup on the bun and insert the bacon-wrapped dog. If you want to squirt the mayo on top, like they do at the stands, mix it with a little lemon juice or water to thin it out. Put it into a squeeze bottle or sandwich bag with a corner cut off and squeeze it on top when you are done, along with the mustard and ketchup.
Add warm pinto beans, cheese (shredded Mexican cotijo cheese, cheddar, whatever), chopped tomatoes, chopped onions, sliced or blended jalapenos or some type of jalapeno/green chili salsa.
“Just stick whatever you want on there, and whatever amount, to make it taste good.” (You hear this talking to many Mexican cooks)


http://tucsoncitizen.com/tucsontales/2009/12/10/tucsons-sonoran-hot-dog-like-a-chili-dog-on-steroids-wrecipe/

MADem

(135,425 posts)
52. I would eat that!
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:56 AM
Nov 2013

My daddy used to make something like that, only he would put cheese on the dog, then bacon.

Sinful.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
31. The OG foodies of Northern California would not be caught dead eating a hot dog.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 01:04 AM
Nov 2013

Not even at the ballpark. Scratch that, ESPECIALLY not at the ball park (because Doyer fans like them- therefore, like The Wave and beach balls they are strictly verboten.)

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
35. Organic artisinal sausages? Yes. They'd eat the hell out of that. But a hot dog? Hell no.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 01:18 AM
Nov 2013

Feed them to your kids and somebody's likely to call CPS.

Gormy Cuss

(30,884 posts)
32. I grew up in Maine and thought REAL hot dogs had a red casing.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 01:06 AM
Nov 2013

They were made by Jordan's or Kirschner's

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
73. I agree
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:00 PM
Nov 2013

Though in California they have Weinerschnitzel, which frankly has some of the worst dogs in the world. Sonic does not do a bad dog; they even do Chicago style ones.

And whatver you do, New Orleans has a LOT of great food, even street food. Get a Po Boy, get a Muffeletta but do not buy a "lucky dog". This franchise uses Lykes, the wrost dogs, and they overkill it with relish. These things are not even good to absorb the liquor after a night of drinking.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
48. James' Coney Island in downtown Houston
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:30 AM
Nov 2013

was quite good and then the worst thing that can happen to an eatery-they became a chain- quality sank like the Titanic. For a while the original was still good. Perhaps they got it together but I doubt it. You can't franchise quality.

Reading this history from James' web site I see that my prejudice is bolstered. It is my belief that any eatery run by Greeks no matter what they serve is of highest quality. I did not know that James' Coney Island was founded and run by a pair of Greek brothers for years.
http://www.jamesconeyisland.com/history.php#&panel1-7

The regular dog at James' was mustard, dog, chile sauce and chopped onions. I still miss sitting at those school desks eating dogs with my buds.

There was another coney island by the Alabama Theater on Shepherd- It was much bigger than James' we used to frequent it on weekends after taking in a movie or buying records at this great record store- can't remember the name.

Ah! At 63 I guess it's OK for me to sink into delicious nostalgia.

longship

(40,416 posts)
43. "Get yer Red Hots!" at Tiger Stadium.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 06:54 AM
Nov 2013

I grew up in Detroit where the art of the Coney Island hot dog came to its culmination at the Lafayette on Woodward Ave. downtown. But at Tiger Stadium they had the Red Hot.

Pitched in the stands by a burly guy -- he had to be to carry his hot water filled gizmo up and down the stands -- with the immortal "Get yer Red Hots!!!" You had a choice of two condiments, mustard and/or onions. Any good Tiger fan knew the only option really was mustard AND onions.

The funny thing happened when somebody asked about ketchup. The vendor would crankily remind the customer that ketchup was available at the concession stand behind the stands; these are Red Hots, with mustard and onions. The customer would never ask for ketchup again, I assure you. But he would learn to appreciate the simple elegance of a good hot dog smothered in mustard and freshly chopped zippy onions.

And they called them "Red Hots".

How about those Tigers?

Laelth

(32,017 posts)
47. Middle Georgia is home to a unique franchise called "Nu-Way."
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 08:13 AM
Nov 2013

We've had Nu-Way since 1916. It's a Greek chili dog, and it's excellent.

http://www.nu-wayweiners.com/ (beware music on homepage)



Oprah likes to visit Nu-Way when she comes to town.



-Laelth

Sheri

(310 posts)
64. nu-way is unique.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 12:09 PM
Nov 2013

i like the special, red hot-dogs. mr. sheri likes the chili burgers, but it's all the onion in it that makes it so good.

rucky

(35,211 posts)
50. on rollers. at gas stations :(
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:52 AM
Nov 2013

w're culturally void here in OH, when it comes to hotdogs. Skyline coneys don't count.

In New Mexico, we would roll them in a tortilla with some green chile and cheddar.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
58. With loving care in a little mousy sweatshop.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 10:30 AM
Nov 2013

[hr][font color="blue"][center]A ton of bricks, a ton of feathers. It's still gonna hurt.[/center][/font][hr]

DinahMoeHum

(21,784 posts)
59. Split and grilled, at Walter's. . .
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 10:55 AM
Nov 2013

Went to high school right across the road from them, and within walking distance from my family home.


http://www.waltershotdogs.com/index_flash.html

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
61. Nathan's Famous Longer than the Bun
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 11:20 AM
Nov 2013

Whole wheat bun.
Boil or grill hot dogs.
In bun, put, in this order:

Finely diced raw white onion (about a tablespoon) Do not use sweet onion.
Dill pickle relish (sparingly)
Brown mustard (plenty)
Finely grated cheddar cheese. (to cover other ingredients)

When hot dogs are cooked, add to top of ingredients in bun while very hot. Press sausage down into ingredients. Wait for 30 seconds for cheese to melt.

Consume with extreme greed.

 

GladRagDahl

(237 posts)
62. Hot Dogs at Cafe George V (Paris)
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 11:24 AM
Nov 2013

It's not where I live, but I always get a kick out of the American style hot dogs I got in Paris. (American style was the description I got from our waiter). What came was two German brats on a hollowed out baguette, topped with ementaler cheese and toasted. Ketchup, mayo and fries were served on the side.

 

blueamy66

(6,795 posts)
63. Ted's from Buffalo NY
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 11:24 AM
Nov 2013

Best dogs ever.

Chargrilled....whites, foot longs, red hots...

Ted's opened a store in Tempe AZ and the line snakes out the door.

Freddie

(9,265 posts)
69. Yocco's Hot Dogs, Allentown PA
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 01:10 PM
Nov 2013

A longish thin dog cooked well-browned on the grill, served in a steamed bun with chili sauce, cheese, onions and mustard. They're even good naked. Must have the crinkle-cut fries, fried in peanut oil. Mmmm...
"Yocco" is the local pronunciation of Iacocca, the business was founded by Lee Iacocca's family.

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