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Wonder why Housing Market is moving upward? Wall Street is buying up foreclosed properties... (Original Post) busterbrown Nov 2013 OP
Here we go again. Th1onein Nov 2013 #1
I'd heard some bits & pieces about this giftedgirl77 Nov 2013 #2
Surely it's good that foreclosed properties are being bought and fixed up, Nye Bevan Nov 2013 #3
Nothing is good when it contributes to the next financial tragedy.. busterbrown Nov 2013 #4
It is the legal racket. defacto7 Nov 2013 #5
Its why we need to start getting Ms. Warren out front. busterbrown Nov 2013 #6
US is financing these buys RobertEarl Nov 2013 #7
Also if your thinking of a rental... Be careful. busterbrown Nov 2013 #8
Short sales quaker bill Nov 2013 #9
 

giftedgirl77

(4,713 posts)
2. I'd heard some bits & pieces about this
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 01:09 AM
Nov 2013

occurring but not that they were bundling them in such a manner. People need to avoid these companies like the plague, this is going to get ugly on so many levels.

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
3. Surely it's good that foreclosed properties are being bought and fixed up,
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 01:20 AM
Nov 2013

as opposed to sitting empty and decaying with broken windows, thieves stealing the copper, and grass and weeds growing out of control? Moreover, I'm sure plenty of DUers would be complaining if real estate prices were continuing to fall.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
4. Nothing is good when it contributes to the next financial tragedy..
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 01:31 AM
Nov 2013

Banks which own these failing properties should be forced to clean them up..
I’d much rather have prices fall, then not understand that Wall Street is putting the country in harm’s way again.

defacto7

(13,485 posts)
5. It is the legal racket.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 02:03 AM
Nov 2013

Question... Is there any reason to think that banks should be banned from owning and running properties? Of course they may have to have a lean due to a loan or the legal control in financial respects of a loan on a property, but it seems to be a monopoly of self regulating control to be able to loan, forclose, own said property, use it for a business venture, cause the market to shift, sell at profit, and loan on it again... all at the same time.

This is truly a messed up financial system and legal system that would allow this kind of racketeering... and call it legal.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
6. Its why we need to start getting Ms. Warren out front.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 02:29 AM
Nov 2013

She has an ability to simplify this stuff so that the average person (like me) can understand it all..
And she sounds sincere..

 

RobertEarl

(13,685 posts)
7. US is financing these buys
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 03:39 AM
Nov 2013

The various 'loans' the government has been giving the banks is where the money comes from. It is called bailout money and may just save the banks from their crooked and foolish endeavor of blowing the 2000's real estate bubbles.

New Golden Rule: He who has the gold makes the rules.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
8. Also if your thinking of a rental... Be careful.
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 04:30 AM
Nov 2013

Have everything tied up for what you feel is a comfortable couple of years and then w/o notice thrown out on your ass.. Not that easy finding another place, moving all your crap etc.. But if the banks are forced to abandoned, what a mess!

quaker bill

(8,224 posts)
9. Short sales
Sat Nov 30, 2013, 09:32 AM
Nov 2013

In basic summary, a bank is losing sometimes 100K+ on an existing note. They are losing this kind of money over and over again in a particular market. Other banks, seeing this, are very unwilling to toss their money into this bonfire. So bottom line, short sales go to people with available cash. These often happen to be investors, who happen to have the cash.

I have been following some markets fairly closely. I would like to swap out my equity here, with some cash, for a paid off home there. Since I am downsizing anyway, this could easily be done.

What I am seeing is that prices accelerated out of the deepest portion of the trough about 18 months ago, rising quickly as investors snapped up really cheap deals. Some of these were turned into rentals and many were repaired and somewhat upgraded, then went back on the market for double the money paid (still historically cheap, but more expensive than 2 years back). This increase in value has driven banks to act on previously issued foreclosure notices to complete that process and bring more properties to market. The increased number of properties for sale has tapered off the price increases and has actually caused modest declines over the last 4 or 5 months.

I live in a neighborhood where the foreclosures were few and happened some time ago, so where I am sitting, prices are accelerating upward. For me looking to purchase just 1 home there, the news is pretty good. It could get interesting for folks currently owning a portfolio of them there.


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