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Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 06:24 PM Dec 2013

Lawmaker Blasts 'One Of The Most Misogynistic Proposals' She's Ever Seen


Lawmaker Blasts 'One Of The Most Misogynistic Proposals' She's Ever Seen

Michigan lawmakers are considering a measure that would require women to purchase a separate insurance rider for abortion, even if she became pregnant as a result of rape or incest. Democratic lawmakers blasted the proposal this week because it would force women to anticipate being raped, ThinkProgress reported.

"Forcing women to decide whether they want to buy 'rape insurance' and even compelling parents to make the unfathomable decision about whether to buy it for their daughters is truly despicable," State Senate Minority Leader Gretchen Whitmer (D) said Monday. "Requiring Michigan women to plan ahead for an unplanned pregnancy is not only illogical, it’s one of the most misogynistic proposals I have ever seen in the Michigan Legislature."

More than 80 percent of private insurance plans currently cover abortions, so the measure would have a broad effect.

Michigan lawmakers passed the same bill last year, but Governor Rick Snyder (R) vetoed it, saying he does not "believe it is appropriate to tell a woman who becomes pregnant due to a rape that she needed to select elective insurance coverage."

But anti-abortion activists were able to collect enough signatures on a petition this year to force a vote on the measure again. If the Republican-controlled legislature approves it, it will automatically become law, even if Snyder does not sign it. If lawmakers do not pass it, citizens will consider it as a ballot measure in 2014.

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Full article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/12/04/state-lawmaker-blasts-rap_n_4386383.html



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Lawmaker Blasts 'One Of The Most Misogynistic Proposals' She's Ever Seen (Original Post) Tx4obama Dec 2013 OP
Might as well just rename the state Misochigan. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2013 #1
How about rape insurance for men PumpkinAle Dec 2013 #2
If they really cared about the fetus they would be pro universal health care Fumesucker Dec 2013 #3
Specifically it's about punishing slutty women. Quantess Dec 2013 #14
Any sex not within a Christian marriage to a patriarchal master kestrel91316 Dec 2013 #26
Yes, it pays 18 years of child support libodem Dec 2013 #13
Fuck this citizen initiative shit! longship Dec 2013 #4
While I understand your outrage, I don't understand your rationale. The represenatives kelly1mm Dec 2013 #6
Tiny minority as in the petition signers who put this back into play. longship Dec 2013 #7
I think I see your point now, basically lowering the threshold to override a veto, kelly1mm Dec 2013 #10
The problem in MI is that the most liberal area is Detroit. longship Dec 2013 #11
This seems to be codifying rape culture. LanternWaste Dec 2013 #5
This is a horrible law. Christ, even Snyder thought it was bad enough to veto last year. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #8
DU gender wars threads get 100s of responses; real world war on women? Meh, not so much. Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #9
you can say that again! BlancheSplanchnik Dec 2013 #12
I hear you libodem Dec 2013 #15
Simply posting in other threads does not indicate "some personal obcession [sic]." WinkyDink Dec 2013 #24
There are people here who believe women falsely accuse boston bean Dec 2013 #19
And the War on Human Decency continues. Rex Dec 2013 #16
I'm sick at heart to read this Caretha Dec 2013 #17
The GOP is obviously conducting a Most Terrible Idea Possible contest with itself MrScorpio Dec 2013 #18
These ideas just get crazier HappyMe Dec 2013 #20
Make men buy separate insurance for Viagra Celebration Dec 2013 #21
Sick stuff, just cruel bettyellen Dec 2013 #22
Religion is the root... awoke_in_2003 Dec 2013 #23
There are some just plain hateful people here in Michigan gollygee Dec 2013 #25

PumpkinAle

(1,210 posts)
2. How about rape insurance for men
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 06:34 PM
Dec 2013

you know just in case they decide to go out rape.

This is just another underhand maneuver from the "we are care about the fetus more than woman" crowd - they really are disgusting.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
3. If they really cared about the fetus they would be pro universal health care
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 06:38 PM
Dec 2013

So that all pregnant women could get proper prenatal care.

They don't give a fuck about the fetus either, it's all about subjugating women.

Quantess

(27,630 posts)
14. Specifically it's about punishing slutty women.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 03:53 PM
Dec 2013

"Slutty" entails any sex that is not intended for conception.

 

kestrel91316

(51,666 posts)
26. Any sex not within a Christian marriage to a patriarchal master
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 04:15 PM
Dec 2013

and intended for conception is probably what you meant.

longship

(40,416 posts)
4. Fuck this citizen initiative shit!
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 06:43 PM
Dec 2013

It allows a tiny minority of Wack-A-Loon religious kooks to circumvent the majority, to say nothing about common sense and decency.

If we don't get the state legislatures (to say nothing of the houses of Congress in Washington, DC) to our side in 2014 there's going to be hell to pay. 2016 will be close to irrelevant by then, if we lose in 2014.

What good is a Democratic president, even with partial Congressional support, when the states, even putatively Blue ones like MI, do shit like this?

Make no mistake. This comes from some model law which will be duplicated in any and all states which may be sympathetic to its goals, to restrict health care access to women, simply because they are women.

Wake up Sheeple! The game is on for 2014. 2016 is irrelevant!

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)
6. While I understand your outrage, I don't understand your rationale. The represenatives
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 10:03 PM
Dec 2013

in the MI legislature (you know, the ones that got elected by those eligible and bothering to show up to vote) passed this law last session so 'tiny minority' does not seem appropriate. Secondly, while a small number of people can get a intuitive on the ballot, if the legislature does not pass it, then it will have to be on the 2014 ballot. In either case, either by general election vote, or by the legislature elected by the people (again, how bothered to show up) it would be way more than a tiny minority that pushed this through.

longship

(40,416 posts)
7. Tiny minority as in the petition signers who put this back into play.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 10:13 PM
Dec 2013

This time without a path to a governor veto.

That's the citizen initiative law.

That sucks. What's next? Death penalty for using birth control?

Use your imagination. The MI legislature are crazy. When a petition drive can override a governor's veto, that's fucked up.

kelly1mm

(4,733 posts)
10. I think I see your point now, basically lowering the threshold to override a veto,
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 10:23 PM
Dec 2013

form (I don't know specifically) say 66% to a mere simple majority. If that is the point you are making, then I see it now and thanks for clarifying.

If the MI is crazy, then I would assume that the voters will vote them out next chance they get. If the voters do not, then either the voters agree with them (and maybe crazy themselves), or just don't care. Either outcome is pretty scary actually.

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. The problem in MI is that the most liberal area is Detroit.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 10:37 PM
Dec 2013

And I don't have to tell you about Detroit, do I? I lived my first 30 years in the city and I weep for what has happened, what is happening, there. In my youth I took the bus from my house to both Tiger Stadium and the Detroit Institute of Arts (DIA).

Tiger Stadium is gone. The bankruptcy people want to rape the DIA's art treasures to pay people who are already wealthy for Detroit's debt. This is nothing short of gutting a perceived dead body.

I was born at Henry Ford Hospital in Detroit, MI in 1948. I lived in the city for over 30 years. Went to school. (Cooley High 1966 grad) Graduated University (Oakland University, BS in physics) Worked there. Lived there.

What's happening now is utterly shameful.

There's more than a little partisan politics involved in this. Remember Romney? "Let Detroit go bankrupt!"

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
5. This seems to be codifying rape culture.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 06:50 PM
Dec 2013

This seems to be codifying rape culture. Odd that the male dominated GOP State House is advertising this one so loudly.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
8. This is a horrible law. Christ, even Snyder thought it was bad enough to veto last year.
Wed Dec 4, 2013, 10:21 PM
Dec 2013

I guess it's up to Michigan residents to give their reps an earful right now.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
12. you can say that again!
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 11:25 AM
Dec 2013

I don't know what it is.....except maybe outrage burnout...... the attacks on women are so ubiquitous.....

I don't know why DU goes ballistic in support of race or LGBT or animal issues, but actual implementation of Handmaid's Tale measures in state legislatures around the country gets a big yawn.

libodem

(19,288 posts)
15. I hear you
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 03:57 PM
Dec 2013

This is a real issue. Not some personal obcession with violent gross obscenity.

You know what I find disgusting, are the daily reruns of CSI special victims unit where heinous sex crimes are exploited for entertainment. As soon as the music starts that chanel is changed. There is your sickening rape porn.Yuck!

boston bean

(36,222 posts)
19. There are people here who believe women falsely accuse
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 10:22 AM
Dec 2013

men of rape. The woman is constantly put under the microscope. The statistics are constantly being attacked to diminish the occurrence of rape. And how men have it just as bad. And women deserve no extra consideration, even if it is just fighting for/against these issues from a womans perspective. If you do you are a misandrist!!!!!!!!

One thing they can't get around though is that they'll never need an abortion

 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
17. I'm sick at heart to read this
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 09:12 PM
Dec 2013

14th century war against women.

May the wrath of hell envelop these misogynists, and bake their balls till they are tender and taste good with olive
oil and a bit of garlic.

That is the nicest thing I could think of to say at this moment, besides may God have mercy on their souls.


MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
18. The GOP is obviously conducting a Most Terrible Idea Possible contest with itself
Sat Dec 7, 2013, 10:10 AM
Dec 2013

I can't imagine what the grand prize would be.

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
25. There are some just plain hateful people here in Michigan
Sun Dec 8, 2013, 02:32 PM
Dec 2013

If you're too out there for Rick Snyder, you know you've gone way way over the line.

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