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applegrove

(118,642 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 09:36 PM Dec 2013

400,000-Year-Old Hominin DNA Throws Everything We Know About Human Evolution Into Disarray

400,000-Year-Old Hominin DNA Throws Everything We Know About Human Evolution Into Disarray

by Jennifer Welsh at Business Insider

http://www.businessinsider.com/400000-year-old-human-dna-in-pit-of-bones-2013-12

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But the new genetic information published Dec. 4 in the journal Nature has thrown that assumption into question.

The researchers used a completely new technique to isolate the DNA from a thigh bone, which they say wouldn't even have been possible a year ago.

Previously, the oldest human DNA ever sequenced was a paltry 100,000 years old.

The genetic material they sequenced is not the DNA we traditionally think of but the specialized DNA that runs our cell's energy-making machine (the mitochondria) and is passed down only from the mother.

This mitochondrial DNA indicated that these ancient humans, though they looked like Neanderthals, were more genetically related (or, at least their mitochondria were) to another ancient human species, the Denisovians.



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400,000-Year-Old Hominin DNA Throws Everything We Know About Human Evolution Into Disarray (Original Post) applegrove Dec 2013 OP
This DNA test is the work of the debbil. Everyone knows that the universe TheDebbieDee Dec 2013 #1
well 6,012 to be precise. nt el_bryanto Dec 2013 #2
misleading headline Botany Dec 2013 #3
Another hyperbolic title for a science article. Coyotl Dec 2013 #4
Science is less important than selling stories.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #11
It's just this kind of stupid hyberbole that helps science deniers feel smug in their denial... Silent3 Dec 2013 #14
Science is the opposite of disarray. Coyotl Dec 2013 #16
And Homo Erectus seems to have hung around pscot Dec 2013 #5
I'm glad I can't keep all the hominids straight because it seems the scientists can't either. I love applegrove Dec 2013 #6
Hell I saw a Home Erectus a couple of nights ago on HBO... WCGreen Dec 2013 #7
If he was more than 3 feet tall pscot Dec 2013 #9
I did not think HBO showed those kind of movies. zeemike Dec 2013 #13
Could be worse.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2013 #17
Hey I've seen that guy warrant46 Dec 2013 #19
Wasn't H. erectus, around 1.8 million years ago, dispersing everywhere in the Old World? Coyotl Dec 2013 #15
For Hobbits, see H. Floresiensis pscot Dec 2013 #18
There was no racial bigotry with our ancestors warrior1 Dec 2013 #8
Yes they did Maraya1969 Dec 2013 #10
Is that dude from Duck Dynasty? PD Turk Dec 2013 #12
I'm pretty sure that "Everything We Know About Human Evolution" hasn't been thrown into disarray... SidDithers Dec 2013 #20

Botany

(70,501 posts)
3. misleading headline
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:05 PM
Dec 2013

..... this does not change everything we know about human evolution but
it is one more piece in the puzzle.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
4. Another hyperbolic title for a science article.
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:07 PM
Dec 2013

Is science just too complicated for humans?

Seriously. Disarray my petunias! Not if you are informed and educated.

It should be of no surprise to anyone that DNA can travel 6,000 miles in 300,000 years. Do the math!

 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
11. Science is less important than selling stories....
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 12:20 AM
Dec 2013

Even if the "story" is an interview with an asshole.

Silent3

(15,210 posts)
14. It's just this kind of stupid hyberbole that helps science deniers feel smug in their denial...
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 12:36 AM
Dec 2013

...since "clearly" nothing science tells us really stands up over time, those so-called scientists keep changing their minds about everything!

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
16. Science is the opposite of disarray.
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 12:40 AM
Dec 2013

I guess the really important implications of the story escape the writer.

pscot

(21,024 posts)
5. And Homo Erectus seems to have hung around
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:18 PM
Dec 2013

Until as recently as 13,000 bp. The more they learn, the more complicated it gets. Thanks for posting.

applegrove

(118,642 posts)
6. I'm glad I can't keep all the hominids straight because it seems the scientists can't either. I love
Thu Dec 5, 2013, 10:20 PM
Dec 2013

this stuff. Too cool.

 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
15. Wasn't H. erectus, around 1.8 million years ago, dispersing everywhere in the Old World?
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 12:37 AM
Dec 2013

And less than one million ago transitioning to new species designations, with even earlier divergences and essentially a global gene pool ever since, hobbits excepted. Of course, our paleo gene pool had eras of separation and of renewed combination, combined with fluctuating demographics.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
20. I'm pretty sure that "Everything We Know About Human Evolution" hasn't been thrown into disarray...
Fri Dec 6, 2013, 01:50 PM
Dec 2013

but this is really interesting anyway.

Thanks for posting.

Sid

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