Kirstie Bashes Leah Remini as 'Bigot,' 'Enemy'

[joeybee12]

In the wake of Leah Remini's departure from the Church of Scientology, Kirstie Alley slams the former King of Queens star for the comments she made upon her exit this past summer.

Alley's conversation with Howard Stern on his radio show The Howard Stern Show on Wednesday about being a Scientologist fleshed out to Stern asking the actress for her thoughts on recent Scientology castoff Leah Remini.

"First of all, I just want everyone to know: I have hundreds of friends and people that I know that have come into Scientology and left Scientology. ... You're not shunned; you're not chased. All that's just bulls***," Alley frankly declared.

"When you are generalizing and when your goal is to malign and to say things about an entire group...when you decide to blanket statement 'Scientology is evil,' you are my enemy."

http://tv.yahoo.com/news/kirstie-bashes-leah-remini-39-bigot-39-39-230300526.html

[shenmue]

1. Shouldn't we love our enemies?

Do they have that principle in Scientology?

I love Kirstie but staying angry never made any friendship better.

[TwilightGardener]

2. They were in an episode of King of Queens together--I assume Scientology was their

connection at the time. I think Remini is pretty brave.

[geek tragedy]

3. So says Michael Richards's new co-star. nt

[Tom Ripley]

19. Well played

[UtahLib]

4. Enemy, quite a hostile declaration.

Seems that Kirstie has been totally indoctrinated. John, who is responsible for her absolute devotion to that money grubbing organization, must be very proud.

[ProudToBeBlueInRhody]

21. It's interesting she directly acknowledged her

Scientologists are taught to treat the enemy as if they do not exist.

I once listened to Coast To Coast where Ian Punnett had on a guy who left Scientology. A caller called in an managed to speak only to Ian, making a point by point refutation while completely ignoring that the guest was on the line. When he talked, she completely ignored what he said and addressed only the host and never said the guest's name. It was fascinating.

[DetlefK]

5. Scientology really is the same as Christianity.

Both are religions that people can live by and be happy. (Leaving aside all arguments about religion per se.)

And both have been corrupted by an institutionalized church.
For example, the earliest depictions of Jesus Christ show him as a shep-herder caring for his flock. Regalia and all that top-down-hierarchy-stuff was later invented when Christianity became state-religion of the Roman Empire.

I read an article a few months ago about people who left the Church of Scientology because they couldn't stand any longer the ever-increasing demands for money. They would like to continue to practice Scientology in their own communities, apart from the Church of Scientology, but the CoS won't let them due to claims that sounded to me like copyright-claims.

So, when discussing Scientology, please remember:
There is Christianity and there are its various churches and sects.
Likewise there is Scientology and there is the Church of Scientology.

[Dash87]

9. L. Ron Hubbard was the antithesis of Jesus.

He was a scumbag money-hungry criminal who couldn't write himself out of a paper bag.

Scientology was never good or supposed to help people in the first place. It was founded as a pyramid scheme, and continues to be to this day. Hubbard might be dead, but the new generation of blood-suckers are still feeding on their victims. If Kirstie Alley weren't brainwashed, she would extend her sympathy for the people $cientology bled dry instead.

No wonder they hate psychiatry. They're afraid someone might talk sense into their members and take away a source of revenue before it's too late.

[Warren DeMontague]

16. Here I am going to say something by not saying it

and hopefully the lack of a message will come through loud and clear, Danny.

[Dash87]

18. Wut?

[Jesus Malverde]

22. wut indeed...nt

[Warren DeMontague]

24. Yeah, so... I'm not going to bother.

I'm glad people are distinguishing the real religions from the fake ones, and genuine prophets from charlatans.

Very important stuff.

[Dash87]

25. Who, in your opinion, is the Christian equivalent of Hubbard?

What charities has Scientology taken part in? At least Christianity helps people. Let me know when Christianity's sole purpose is to garnish their followers' bank accounts. Also, when did Jesus say that he would use his words to get rich?

Scientology is a giant pyramid scheme. It shouldn't even be mentioned with world religions.

[Warren DeMontague]

26. I found the answer on some golden tablets given to me by an angel

however, they magically disappeared.

I can faithfully relate what they said, though.

[hatrack]

27. How did you decipher them?!? (I assume they weren't written in English)

[Dash87]

28. But you wouldn't have to pay $5000 to see them

There wouldn't be some idiot with fake equipment badgering you about needing them in your life, or otherwise you'll be nothing. That's the difference between a religion and a scam.

[Warren DeMontague]

29. Okay, I am glad you have clearly defined the difference for yourself.

Seriously. That should be helpful as you navigate this world.

[VanillaRhapsody]

30. You have never heard of the "Prosperity Gospel" Evangelizing have you?

[LyndaG]

34. Scientology.

They are known to help out after natural disasters. Jeb Bush awarded them the "Points of Light" Heroes Award after a group of Scientologists volunteered after a hurricane.

[tularetom]

32. See the ball, Danny

Be the ball, Danny?

[Warren DeMontague]

33. "The Zen Poet Basho once wrote, a flute with no holes, is not a flute

and a donut with no holes, is a danish"

"The shortest distance between two points, is a straight line..."

"In the opposite direction, Danny"

[WinkyDink]

12. Is there any particular reason you use Christianity and not, say, Islam? HMMMMMMMM??? And you're an

idiot, comparing a group that DEMANDS MONEY to MOVE UP in RANKS to a religion that asks its members to GIVE TO THE POOR.
Scientology is BANNED in Germany, home of Martin Luther. THAT ought to serve as a clue about its religious bona fides.

And "Jesus as Shepherd" is a metaphor. He is described in adulthood as a rabbi/teacher.

[DetlefK]

14. Simple reasons:

1. I couldn't think of a quick example to show how today's Islam deviates from the original one. I really don't know enough about the finer religious arguments within Islam to go into that topic.

2. Christianity demands that you give to the poor.
Christian Churches demand that you give. And then Mega-Churches and Cathedrals happen to be built.
I regularly donate to an organization that helps the needy. That organization just happens to be non-religious.

3. Scientology wasn't banned in Germany, it was under permanent observation by the Bundesamt für Verfassungsschutz (Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution) for suspicion of intents to undermine the civil-rights of others.
That same BfV just asked last month for permission to cease their surveillance of Scientology: There are so few Scientologists in Germany that they are fighting for relevance.

4. Yes, the shepherd and the flock are metaphors. That doesn't affect my argument that the earliest depictions show him without the regalia of a ruler. Those came later, when Christianity no longer was the cool, new religion of hipsters but became mainstreamed. The imperial roman culture turned Jesus the teacher into Jesus the ruler.

[VanillaRhapsody]

31. You mean like Mormons do?

[tina tron]

6. My guess is that there is a lot of ego stroking

to get big Hollywood stars. Scientology probably teaches these people that their fame, wealth and star status is due to them being super humans or demigods. Which of course they believe.

[pansypoo53219]

10. scientology is ALL about ego stroking.

[Jesus Malverde]

23. I thought it was about blackmail.

After you spend endless hours confessing your past while hooked up to an e-meter.

[uponit7771]

15. +1

[Dawson Leery]

7. Scientology puts many resources into attracting Hollywood stars to the cult.

Kristie enjoys the best while Scientology's minions work like slaves.

[Dash87]

8. You would have to be a world-class sucker to join Scientology.

The founder of the "religion" (*cough) said that, if he ever wanted to make a lot of money, he would found a religion. Their religion has a "celebrity center." Also, what religion consists entirely of its members buying new content and privileged "power" tomes for the upper levels?

Do they not realize that they're being leached off of by parasites? Sorry, but you would have to be stupid to believe this crap.

[tina tron]

13. Dianetics was first published in a 1950s pulp magazine

Either FATE or True can't remember which one. That should tell you all you need to know.

[derby378]

35. Actually, it was the May 1950 issue of ASTOUNDING SCIENCE FICTION

In fact, I have that issue at home.

[UTUSN]

11. R#5 & K for, scientology has sucked the soul out of Kirstie. n/t

[Warren DeMontague]

17. Xenu sounds pissed.

[Initech]

20. Oh shit here we go!

[liberalhistorian]

36. Who cares what this talentless,

clueless, ignorant RW hack thinks, anyway? Her current show is even worse than her other stuff, which is pretty bad.

[Alamuti Lotus]

37. So she's not being shunned or chased, you're just going around various media calling her an enemy

Thanks for the distinction, Kirstie.

[Zorra]

38. L. Ron Hubbard was an intolerant, ignorant, raging homophobic bigot. nt