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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSantorum: My grades suffered because I was conservative.
"Santorum's Profs Beg to Differ"
http://articles.philly.com/2012-03-11/news/31145518_1_rick-santorum-heinz-campaign-student-body
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"I can tell you professor after professor who docked my grades because of the viewpoints I expressed and the papers that I wrote. There's no question that happened," Santorum said. He added: "I used to go to war with some of my professors, who thought I was out of the pale, these are just not proper ideas," noting, "There is clearly a bias at the university."
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"I never received a complaint from any students that a professor had downgraded them because they were conservative and the professor was too liberal, or a student was too liberal with a conservative professor," Robert Friedman told me. He served as chair of the political science department in the late 1970s when Santorum was a student. "Any problem he had with his grades had nothing to do with the fact that he was politically conservative."Friedman said. "He wasn't a very serious student."
"He was an OK student," noted O'Connor, "not great."
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The real story about Rick Santorum's education is this one: "He was telling a story that isn't true," Friedman said. "It's a fantasy," Eisenstein echoed. "You're in a political campaign and you're dealing with people you can get to applaud if you tell stories about people being indoctrinated and liberal professors, but it's not true."
"I was indoctrinated at that Berkeley-esque bastion of liberalism: Penn State. I mean, look at this beard." :jagoffsmilie:
livetohike
(22,766 posts)Richardo
(38,391 posts)Systematic Chaos
(8,601 posts)...because you have the critical thinking skills of a rotten Crenshaw melon and you couldn't write your way out of a wad of wet toilet paper.
Now suck it up and go play with your dead fetus in a jar.
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)Thanks Systematic Chaos. That post just improved my morale massively. I mean, you would expect somebody that brings home a dead baby and spends all day playing with it and kissing it to be a lofty intelligence wouldn't you, after all?
denverbill
(11,489 posts)Because it's generally proven that conservatives have lower IQs.
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)The rich tend to be plenty smart at making and spending money, but very little else.
alterfurz
(2,550 posts)...but most stupid people are conservatives." -- John Stuart Mill
GopperStopper2680
(397 posts)He got low grades because he was a dummy. It's evident in his campaign and if he studied like he campaigns then of course he got bad grades. And he'll probably flunk out of the campaign too. That just leaves Romney....
La Lioness Priyanka
(53,866 posts)TBF
(33,604 posts)lpbk2713
(43,148 posts)[big] "WAAAH!! No fair!!" [/big]
lastlib
(24,543 posts)...to his ability to convince a majority of voters that the bullshit he is feeding them is actually whipped cream."
--George H.W. ("the First" Bush
"And Howdy!"
--George W. ("the Lesser" Bush
Enrique
(27,461 posts)maybe that wasn't as much of an issue for him in law school, I wouldn't know, but in college they frown on that. In politics, of course it's no issue at all. Constituents love hearing bullshit from politicians.
liberal N proud
(60,872 posts)That is most likely his problem with higher eduction and the reason he wants to kill education.
wandy
(3,539 posts)Blaming someone or something else for their own problems is typical of self righteous turkeys like santorum.
I am holey. How could anything be wrong with me, the world is out to get me because I holey. And on and on.....
Happyhippychick
(8,415 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)gave him bad grades for bad ideas because he's FULL of bad ideas. The very first one is the idea that going to college is a bad thing.
I'm going to go with the notion that most professors at colleges and Universities who make their living educating people and whom are educated themselves are going to disagree with that position.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,744 posts)Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)Math professors are well known for their liberal activism.
Richardo
(38,391 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)Where he would have been welcomed? Guy has always been a tool....
get the red out
(13,533 posts)I'd bet the professors said their classes were "So easy a cave-man could do it" and Santorum screamed "YOU LIE".
Arkana
(24,347 posts)I went to a very conservative Catholic college, and I took plenty of classes with professors with different viewpoints than me--none of them ever docked my grades. It doesn't happen.
Mariana
(14,925 posts)Because they're all in on this huge conspiracy to oppress conservatives (and, Santorum implies, Christians) and deprive them of their rightful, earned grades because of their political (and religious) views. Republicans fervently believe that this conspiracy exists.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)probably received unfairly harsh criticism from his history prof. You gotta Santo at least this one, no?
Viking12
(6,012 posts)It is a clear indication of an inability to examine evidence and draw a logical conclusion. Those topics alone explain your low grades, oh frothy one.
NYC Liberal
(20,328 posts)"Personal responsibility"...it's that what conservatives have been preaching?
PRETZEL
(3,245 posts)guess what, I was a year behind you. Thankfully I don't remember you at all and if I did know you back then, I'm glad I forgot.
However, I will say this. All my professors there were only concerned about one thing. Fiction in a political science course is not acceptable. I spent more hours in the library sourcing my work.
Did you even know where the library is?
gauguin57
(8,138 posts)... and I can guarantee Santorum is full of it.
I've had only two professors in all my undergrad and grad work who have continually inserted their political opinion into the classroom ... and, guess what? They were both conservatives. There was a sociology prof at PSU who use to compare abortion providers to Nazis. I had an English prof at another school who wanted to slam Charles Darwin and the theory of evolution all the time.
I had one of the poli sci profs quoted in the article as an instructor, and I can attest that he didn't "indoctrinate" us in any way, shape or form.
I've been hearing from a bunch of people who also were at Penn State at the same time, and they said Ricky Boy was a pot head. I have no direct evidence; I didn't know the dude.
Perhaps he was "docked" because he was too bleary-eyed to do his school work (as many of us were in the 1970s!).
yellowcanine
(36,223 posts)And still isn't.
Sheepshank
(12,504 posts)and spout other wordly mystical biblical stuff and hope the teacher will re-vamp the curriculum to accomodate. Just.won't.happen.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,754 posts)but they damn sure are trying! The way the world works just isn't the way they think it can (or should).
Taverner
(55,476 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,754 posts)from a person belonging to a group that basically believes that we could all easily become bazillionaires if only...................