I want to know if the words "stud" or "stallion" or "sire" is offensive

[Cleita]

on this website. Discuss.

[Coyotl]

1. Depends on how they are used.

Over in the Equestrian Forum ....

[Scootaloo]

27. ...We have an Equestria forum?

[Bonobo]

2. No, and neither is "buck", "bull" or "rooster".

"Cock" depends on the context, I guess.

[Warren DeMontague]

9. Johnson?

[JimboBillyBubbaBob]

3. It depends on the...

...mare!

[Cleita]

4. ooo, clever, but I always thought it depended on the context as

previous posters remarked.

[Vashta Nerada]

5. Alerting.

I'm kidding.

It depends on context, of course.

[Luminous Animal]

6. No. Unfortunately, there is no female equivalent.

There is not one word that, applied to a woman, is equivalent to stud.

[JI7]

10. how about "bombshell"

although it seems more like something used for promo or written for public rather than a word people would use in everyday language.

[Kurovski]

25. Female fertility...generally compared to sex lives of flowers

references to flowers and fruit.

Peach, tomato, a pip, a daisy, "blossoming" "horn of plenty", etc.

Again: depends on context and usage I guess.

A bull is, I assume a reference to male fertility, yes?

All this shit was important back when the kiddies died off at alarming rates, I suppose.

Knockin' out them young'uns was the most important thing like, ya know, since EVER!!

[grahamhgreen]

28. Vixen, sex symbol, hottie, babe?

[DustyJoe]

35. wanna bet

I let my dog breed and in classic dog circles she is described as the 'Bitch'. I have no idea if she is offended by it though.

[newfie11]

41. Yes we show our dogs

And I've had a talk about dog show lingo and "everyday words" to my grand kids.
Bitch is of course used for any class a female dog is entered in.
The other thing is a fault in my breed called a gay tail. It has nothing to do with anything sexual. It refers to how the tail is carried ( gay as in happy).
However folks not versed in dog show lingo could take it the wrong way. Such as people my grand kids might know.
One of them mentioned our cat had a gay tail and that's when we had this discussion.

[Coyotl]

38. Heifer and filly

as opposed to cow and old mare.

[Cleita]

51. Also nag in reference to and old plow horse but

also used for women.

Also, there is old goat used for men.

[MineralMan]

62. Actually, the equivalent is "broodmare."

And I have seen it used to refer to a woman, at that.

[newfie11]

7. Not in my world

But then we have horses.

[Eleanors38]

36. Carpenters are always handling studs. Shame.

[newfie11]

39. Lol good one. Nt

[Retrograde]

63. That's why hardware stores sell stud finders!

And electricians always seem to be talking about male and female ends...

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

65. In my house, it takes a lot of banging to find a stud.

... dang plaster walls.

[Warren DeMontague]

8. No, I hear that all the time.

...what?

[Kurovski]

14. It's true!

The name "Warren" and the word "offensive" are often heard in concert.

[Warren DeMontague]

15. Warren 2016!

I can't help it if they're begging me to run.

[Kurovski]

19. What is it you are running for...

Or from...this time?

No need, good sir. I am away for months at a time, and upon each return find the same poor players strutting their stuff. It's remarkable how troll some can be.

I love your new head shot. Now that's what I call a silver stallion.

Slivered scallions.

Timbered talons.

Shivered melons.

Quivered flagons.

Covered wagons.

Thai battalions.

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[Warren DeMontague]

20. Beefy Medallions! ...So many different ways to interpret that post...

I don't care what those other people say about you, you're an artist.

Anyway, I'm not actually Dr. Breen. (And you're not Howard Dean! See, two can play this poetry game)

I'm not sure what possessed me to appropriate him, honestly. I think it's a joking reference to the ridiculous way some people perceive me on this site, versus the foul inter-dimensional Lovecraftian creature that I, actually, am, but honestly I just can't keep track anymore.

[Kurovski]

23. Hot and heaving ham rolls!

If they two were to wed, They'd be Drs. Breen-Dean.

I don't care what those "others" say either. You and you alone are all whom matter.

If you stop keeping track they will have won...and I can't get updates...so knock it off, cloven-hooved heifer .

[Warren DeMontague]

68. "The Only Vote That Matters"!

I'd like to see Drs. Breen and Dean in a cage match with Mr. Clean, and maybe Joel Osteen.

That would be, as they say, keen.

but tell me more about the golf shoes!

[Kurovski]

71. Breen and Dean can name their first daughter

"Brandine" as in: Brandine Breen-Dean. (after brandine Spuckler, a very famous artiste/brood mare.)

Golf shoes would "scuff up the topless dancing runway".

You know more about moving pictures than I do. Is that clip from Romeo and Juliet in the Tanning Salon? The nurses "slug-a-bed scene?

[sibelian]

11. I don't think such terms are offensive so much as just silly!

But why do you ask, Cleita?

[Cleita]

66. Because it seems that there are certain words that are offensive

regarding females that are about anatomy yet are forbidden not only here but on radio and TV. Yet the males references seem to be okay when in context. I would mention the words but I will get alerted on so I won't. It seems weird to me.

[sibelian]

69. .....

THAT'S WHAT I THINK.

[Demo_Chris]

12. Not unless the intent was to CAUSE offense....

Some people here look for pointy objects to hurl themselves against so that they can cry out that they have been stabbed.

[Mojo Electro]

64. +1000 n/t

[Prophet 451]

13. Personally, no.

But there is no positive equivalent for a sexually free-spirited woman. "Cougar" might apply but that seems to be only for women in their mid-Thirties or older. I use "slut" as a term of endearment to a few of my sexually liberated female friends but wouldn't dream of using it outside my circle of friends due to negative connotation it holds. "Filly", the obvious counterpart to "stallion" was used for good-looking women at one point but seems very old-fashioned now.

Perhaps we should make this a project? Come up with a positive term for a woman in control of her own sexuality? I quite like the term "tigress".

[Kurovski]

17. Minx?

As in "Myrna Minx".

[Prophet 451]

22. "Minx" is quite good

Here (the UK), "minx" is an old term for a mischievous girl (the female equivalent of "Dennis The Menace" was "Minnie the Minx&quot .

[Kurovski]

33. I don't know.

[Tuesday Afternoon]

46. actually, the counterpart to filly is colt

a stallion would be an adult male horse that has not been gelded.

The counterpart to stallion would be mare.

[Kurovski]

16. No one likes to be reduced down to the function of the genitals.

(Despite some arrogantly held misconceptions by a small few.)

Though interestingly enough, most healthy individuals enjoy to celebrate their sexuality on some shared level.

[Eleanors38]

37. Thankfully, I've never suffered that fate. What she said.

[safeinOhio]

18. I think I get your point,

as words often have two different meanings. The ones for female animals can be very offensive, like heifer, bitch or dam. Philly, not so much.

[TexasProgresive]

21. I wouldn't use stud or stallion for humans

sire can mean father, but I've never used the word to refer to a person.

I suppose some think these words denote sexual prowess. Like that makes a man more of a man.

[Kurovski]

24. Any critter can get a boner.

But a man is a man when a man can stick around when the going gets tough. Also, purchasing a sofa is another good sign.

Ironic use of retro language can be fun and instructive in the right milieu. Also, sometimes two people in love can say wacky shit when they're horny. Or so I've been told.

[Paulie]

59. Way back when I called my boss "Sire"

As in liege. He called me Squire.

We haven't worked together in over 25 years but the occasional email we still do it.

We would quite Monty Python skits during meetings too.

[TexasProgresive]

60. It sounds like you had at least one good boss

I've had 3. One I would never think of as sire, maybe Reverend Mother. All three knew that their people were talented and they got every obstacle in our way.

[Skidmore]

26. What prompted this?

What did I miss yesterday? Was there a PETA thread?

[Kurovski]

34. I don't know about any thread

But I'll be conducting a soap check and I best not find any lard or honey-based products.

[Boudica the Lyoness]

29. I don't like it when mothers

call their baby boys, 'Stud Muffins'.

[polichick]

31. LOL

[Coyotl]

40. I like it when I was called a "hurky stud muffin"

Of course, it wasn't by my Mom

[quinnox]

30. Nope. But then, I could count the number of words I find offensive on one hand

and still have fingers left. I even still use words like "actress", and think there is nothing wrong with distinguishing male from female word forms. I also figuratively roll my eyes whenever I see ultra-political correctness like using "she" in place of the traditional "he".

[Kurovski]

32. I'm going to name my next poodle "Actressa".

Or maybe Bulldog. My next Poodle might be a Bulldog. A Bulldog named "Actressa"

[HappyMe]

42. Context is everything.

[MineralMan]

43. Only if the context is offensive.

They're perfectly good English words. Did you have a specific use of them in mind when you asked? If so, could we have a link, please.

[Cleita]

49. Okay. That's what I wanted to know.

Because it seems certain words regarding female references are offensive no matter the context. Why the double standard? An it's not just here but in the media, FCC rules for instance.

[MineralMan]

61. Well, the equivalent words for the ones you suggested are;

Mare, Dam, and Filly.

Terms used in horse breeding are just terms used in horse breeding. I don't see these words used about women, except filly, rarely.

[LWolf]

44. Not to me.

But then, I've got 3 mares in the barn, sired by stallions handpicked by me for stud service.

I know you aren't talking about their literal uses, but I find the metaphors okay. They can represent the duality that maleness IS.

In the animal world, testosterone is recognized as a powerful influence on behavior, and there is a clear connection to potency, accompanied by aggression. Stallions, by law, have to be kept in sturdier enclosures with higher fences. While appropriate training/conditioning can result in good manners, a stallion in a public arena is handled differently from mares and geldings, and it's recognized that behavior is going to change when he's in the presence of a mare "in season."

Our men can be, are, strong, powerful, beautiful, and well-civilized. Having raised sons, I know that "civilizing" boys is a bit different than girls. It involves a heavy focus on empathy, on building awareness of not just their power, but the ethical use of that power. Male power not leavened by empathy and awareness leads to abuse.

So a "stud" or a "stallion" can be a man proud of his sexual power, but whether or not he uses that power ethically is something different. A man as a "sire" is, unfortunately, a common condition, at least over the course of history. My own father scattered children around like tossing grass seed. Seven kids, four women. He didn't raise any. Three of us survived past childhood and young adulthood. Fortunately, more men these days are sticking around to raise their kids. At least, it seems like that to me.

I could have the same conversations about girls, of course, and their capacities, but you asked about the male terms.

[Yo_Mama]

45. I've always heard that used in relation to livestock breeding

and as such these words are neutral terms.

I wouldn't apply them to humans, except that the old usage of "sire" has a different connotation.

[Iggo]

47. Trash thread.

[Squinch]

48. Your friends call men "stallion" or "sire?" Who are you hanging out with? Sir Gawain?

[Cleita]

50. My roommate's father once called her brother

a stallion because he was bedding all the girls and he wasn't being complimentary. Of course they were British. I have often heard the word stud used about handsome young men. I threw sire in there just for fun.

[Katashi_itto]

53. My aquaintances do, course I am in the SCA

[itsrobert]

52. Jackass

maybe.

[Autumn]

54. My mares would be offended if I called them a stallion or stud.

And my neighbors miniature stallion doesn't find the term offensive at all. He escapes all the time and comes over trying to sire a foal with my mares. Unfortunately for him his head only comes up to their bellies but he dreams. They just consider him a nuisance.

[Cleita]

55. I love that those little guys think they are big guys sort

of like how chihuahuas think they are Great Danes.

[Autumn]

57. He's just the cutest little thing. A perfect tiny appaloosa stallion.

My mares just look at him and shake their heads.

[Cleita]

67. My neighbors down the road have a pair.

They are adorable.

[kentuck]

56. Everything is offensive to someone.

It seems.

[itsrobert]

58. does it have to do with sensitivity?

you think?

[kentuck]

70. Definitely.

There is a lot of over-sensitivity. People do not have "thick skins" like they used to have. Whether that is good or bad depends on your own sensitivity, I suppose?

[RebelOne]

72. Not offensive when they are applied to animals. nt