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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTHIS. Elizabeth Warren: "We're in this position for one reason, and one reason only..."
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,614 posts)I respect her so much.
Senator Warren!
NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Kicking!
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)I really, really, really want everyone to understand that. Don't get your hopes up. Don't even think about it.
Nope.
Not at all.
Regards,
Ready-For-Hillary Manny
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)Its Hillary's birthright. Making her fight for the candidacy against a pile of people who represent the full Democratic party would be a pointless tragedy that would offend my sensibilities. Im not just ready for Hillary. Im ready for Hillary to be crowned, unchallenged!
FreedRadical
(518 posts)While I do support HRC for the Presidency. I vote for the best person for the job. If someone can prove to me that they would be better than her, they get my vote. I follow no King/Queen.
Just sayin'.
and yes I am a Warren 2016 kind of guy.
Ace Acme
(1,464 posts)If Hillary had divorced Bill, would Chelsea lose the birthright? I want to know how your mind works.
NoOneMan
(4,795 posts)Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Springslips
(533 posts)Those a straw man to boot. But still good. Now what is the recipe for making poor children into soup?
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)rurallib
(62,413 posts)or maybe Attorney General.
MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)leftyohiolib
(5,917 posts)L0oniX
(31,493 posts)Ace Acme
(1,464 posts)for MORE of their "backing".
pangaia
(24,324 posts)that any idiot could have figured it out.
1 Maybe that's one of the things that makes her, and other highly intelligent people, intelligent.
2- It's the idiots who don't get it even when someone intelligent tells them.
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)If so, that would be the first thing I have ever heard her say that I do not completely agree with.
pampango
(24,692 posts)At least in this message Warren does not say that deficit spending is itself a bad thing - just that, like any other authorized government expenditure, Congress should pay the bills it has incurred.
harun
(11,348 posts)Blanks
(4,835 posts)She is merely explaining that congress is the entity responsible for running up the debt. She is saying: it is irresponsible to run up the bill and then refuse to pay it.
I don't see it as a statement either for or against deficit spending.
hfojvt
(37,573 posts)never mind those Reagan and Bush tax cuts for the rich. That darned Congress spent too much money.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)The Reagan and Bush tax cuts need to be reclaimed by Congress and repaid into our federal treasury.
okaawhatever
(9,461 posts)raising the debt ceiling has something to do with the budget. It's only paying for the bills you already incurred as a result of the budget.
tkmorris
(11,138 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)Sounds like, with rumblings from the bowels of the Grand Obstinate Psychopath party, we may be headed for yet another showdown over this bullshit.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)But they are served by their congressional employees when they have a tantrum about the debt ceiling.
It.Is.All.Contrived.
It's a media showboth a smoke screen and smoke and mirrors.
The goal is to cut Social Security and Medicare.
Triana
(22,666 posts)I believe it is and has been since the inception of these two programs ie: for decades, using any excuses they can manufacture to do it. They hate these programs just as they hate Obamacare and for the same reasons.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)I love the way she has with words.
InAbLuEsTaTe
(24,122 posts)JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)madokie
(51,076 posts)their whole purpose of running up the debt is so one day they can cut SS, Medicare and Medicaid because we don't have the money anymore, or so they'll say.
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)Under Bush they pursued this strategy.
The media has completely failed us in not pointing this out. As far as the media is concerned the debt is a result of "tax and spend" Democrats. The media is now no better than Pravda.
They have enough money to build the greatest military the world has ever seen. While much of this military spending is obscene waste.
Anyone that would vote for a Republican needs their fucking heads examined. Not that there aren't downright horrible Democrats like DiFi.
It's as plain as plain can be if we have the guts to look the facts straight in the eyes. But for so long, few have been willing to do just that.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Ace Acme
(1,464 posts)They deliberately ran weak candidates in 2008 and 2012.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)But in 2008 they were serious with McCain,...then he picked Palin and became a joke.
Ace Acme
(1,464 posts)There was that fashion analysis that found that Palin's outfits were exactly in line with the Bushes', but apparently nobody bothered to clue Cindy McCain in. I suspect she was foisted on him with the story (which was true) that she was needed to keep the rednecks that are The Matter with Kansas engaged. She could fill a stadium; McCain could not.
If my hunch that Karl Rove wanted Obama in the WH is correct, the GOP needed to get a lot of media for their populist VP candidate to give an impression of party vitality that their sick old presidential candidate could not. Frustrating the red-staters' wishes to see "She's One of Us!" Palin in the White House would guarantee their continued engagement in subsequent years to keep control of Congress.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)That is exactly correct.
And the media is complicit in crafting the narrative that President Obama and big spending liberals created the debt.
This narrative continues today with every single talking head on TV blaming Social Security for the debt. Yet it was two unpaid for counterproductive wars of choice, huge tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires and Dubya's medicare expansion.
The spending is Republican spending and they should be forced to own it.
defacto7
(13,485 posts)and important human being. Whatever roll she takes in government she will be the voice of reality and reason. I can't see her not being a powerful voice for all of the "real" America, the majority of the nation.
closeupready
(29,503 posts)Gawd, I love Elizabeth Warren! K&R
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)gopiscrap
(23,759 posts)supercats
(429 posts)Ladies and Gentlemen, The Next President Of The United States Of America!!!
p.s. I Hope
pansypoo53219
(20,976 posts)the 2% wins again.
OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)xchrom
(108,903 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)I believe she is speaking of the debt ceiling.
WowSeriously
(343 posts)Because amendments are a way of looking like you care.
bluescribbler
(2,116 posts)I'm so proud of her.
lonestarnot
(77,097 posts)nt
Fantastic Anarchist
(7,309 posts)Very, very much.
malaise
(268,982 posts)we have a winner
By the way Fuck Third Way
mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)blue dogs leave her alone. And yes lets expand social security and Medicare.
treestar
(82,383 posts)I wonder if she would approve of being used to divide Democrats.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
ailsagirl
(22,896 posts)This lady isn't taking any GUFF from the repukes!!! Perhaps she will embolden others.