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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsdoes any government have standing to arrest bush at Mandela's funeral?
or even make a credible threat of arresting him for war crimes and crimes against humanity in Iraq and Afghan Wars?
that would remind people that his crimes have gone unpunished, and remind his victims and him that we haven't forgotten.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)yurbud
(39,405 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)Terra Alta
(5,158 posts)Nothing would make me happier than to see Dumbya have to answer for the atrocities he committed.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)would be for the crime of aggression which is covered by the ICC. As such any government, or its citizens, which recognise the ICC could arrest him.
tritsofme
(17,377 posts)Pretty much everything in this post is wrong.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)War crimes are war crimes.
former9thward
(31,997 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)was the threat in the UK of our citizens arresting visiting Israeli dignitaries, quite rightly , for either the same crime or that of collective punishment. The law was amended here to lock that out.
Soon as the ICC declares a subject to be either a war crime or a crime against humanity it covers all offenders.
former9thward
(31,997 posts)There have been groups and individuals calling for it but they have no legal standing. It would be like someone on DU going up and trying to arrest him. Not going to happen.
tritsofme
(17,377 posts)Might be good to spend some time on Wikipedia or something.
Ranchemp.
(1,991 posts)has issued a warrant, there are plenty of individuals calling for the arrest of Booosh, but they have no legal standing to make the arrest except maybe a citizens arrest, and that would be iffy in a foreign country.
frazzled
(18,402 posts)After all, here was a man who resisted taking action against the formerly apartheid-supporting De Klerk and even made him Deputy President in an effort at national reconciliation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nelson_Mandela
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)the entire match is on Youtube.
Other than that the film Invictus with Matt Damon covers the whole story - lovely film.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)detained or otherwise taken into custody because it would set a precedent that would allow them to be taken into custody.
polichick
(37,152 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)or are you ignoring that an increase in drone strikes or the failure to have left Afghanistan is almost certainly illegal under international law as well.
I think you'd be hard pressed to find a US President since (and including FDR) who hasn't broken international law at one point or another.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)for that matter any member of Congress that authorized the use of force OR voted to fund Afghanistan would legally be considered an accessory.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)since he has continued Bush's actions and in some cases escalated them, do you consider him a war criminal as well?
yurbud
(39,405 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)He could have done so much to clean up this corrupt gov't but he's too much part of the club.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)polichick
(37,152 posts)Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)a US President that allows a predecessor to be arrested, sets a precedent that will allow HIM to be arrested as well.
polichick
(37,152 posts)which is what would be required in order to avoid being arrested.
Lurks Often
(5,455 posts)tina tron
(160 posts)It's like he uses the whole continent for PR purposes. I've noticed this trend.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)the possibility of video of Bush dancing with black people in Africa again.
yurbud
(39,405 posts)As Col. Kurtz said in APOCALYPSE NOW, "the horror..."
polichick
(37,152 posts)WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)George W. Bushs Legacy on Africa Wins Praise, Even From Foes
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2013/04/george-w-bushs-legacy-on-africa-wins-praise-even-from-foes/
1awake
(1,494 posts)Vox Moi
(546 posts)Nuremberg or Guantanamo?
Poetic justice would indicate kidnap, torture and force-feeding at Guantanamo.
A trial would be more in tune with the Rule of Law.
Lots of people died in Bush's war of choice. Lots of people died making the trials at Nuremberg possible. Our failure to hold Bush and friends accountable is a complete disgrace.
polichick
(37,152 posts)hrmjustin
(71,265 posts)dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)Blair doesn't travel anywhere now under expert advice to any countries where he would be liable arrest.
Nothwithstanding that anything is possible given that the turnout by their public will be unprecedented and security is foreseen to be complete nightmare.
mstinamotorcity2
(1,451 posts)Dubya would never risk going to a place where he could be arrested. It has been floated that he should be charged for War Crimes and crimes against Humanity. But if any President were going to be held accountable for crimes against humanity, Charity begins at home and then spreads abroad. America would have to stand trial for crimes against the Native American and work her way down. America will never answer to her ugliness. Ever. Or maybe I will say America won't answer in the fashion that is appropriate. To those who live with the legacy of pain, it kind of rubs you the wrong way when you hear people say well we have to put all that negative stuff behind us and move forward. Funny how people say move forward when you are treated no differently than the past. The same soup just warmed over in a different bowl. Mandela was a true Prince. A Prince in Deed and Honor. He is a hard example to follow. But I am truly glad he set the bar. It lets us know that the true goal of tolerance, peace and forgiveness is a doable thing. Arrest Dubya, we can only Dream. but don't stay in the dream bubble too long, you will run into a repug, its where they live