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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs Megyn Kelly a racist or simply ignorant? Or possibly both.
http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-colbert-daily-show-black-santa-20131213,0,3830377.story#axzz2nOdInpVYJohn Stewart points out that neither Jesus nor the St. Nicholas that Santa was based on, were white.
If you think children are disappointed when told Santa isnt real, it has to be worse for poor Megyn when she finds out Santa wasnt white.
lostincalifornia
(3,639 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)hlthe2b
(102,382 posts)Stuart G
(38,449 posts)And she represents Fox news quite well. Exactly what it stands for.
IggleDoer
(1,186 posts)... can't be all bad.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Major Nikon
(36,827 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)see the justification to let this post stay.
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rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)MyNameGoesHere
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rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)I was the 18th person to alert it.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)wouldn't that be a great feature.
Another great feature would be if everyone could see the jury results of every alert.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)and he can check out your sexist ass.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)seabeyond
(110,159 posts)about this garbage standing under our community standard rules....
the more alerts, the more attention to the creep.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)the justification for this crap.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)you just got back the 3-3. ya. i hear ya. i would like to see it also. but then our guys are having a gay ole time with this crap right not. probably all.... no comment.
what i understand, and i think i am correct. the alerts keep going to skinner even after the initial one. so both your alert and my alert will also go to skinner along with the original alerter.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)So all I learned when I alerted was the 3 - 3 leave. I hope Skinner see this. I am very disappointed in the jury. Maybe we should take it to ATA.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)over the last couple days there have been a couple of incredible hides. i mean nothing. saw no reason for it at all. then shit like this stands. really up in the air, what this jury is all about. you can look in ata at baines question and look at the couple hides i am talking about. if you look at those i think it can help you frame the question in ata better. we are baffled.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Fortunately, we have Ignore.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Of course, if you ignore right away, this whole segment of the thread disappears.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)You can be a racist on the M$M, but you cannot criticize one!
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)we had something just like that going on
you can be, you just cant say it out loud.
or something.
cute. and ya.
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FarPoint
(12,447 posts)You actually identify the way Fox uses women in a sexist fashion just to attract and stimulate male viewers.
They use their women commentators as eye-candy in effort to arouse the male viewer in their
" Women are Property Objects" for their delightful fantasy.
If a beautiful woman says such outrageous things as Fox dictates, then the target viewer is so much more inclined to support and endorse the statement,defending her in rebuttal as a direct result of the subliminal stimulation.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)it to seem like he had done something brilliant? being a sexist to show sexism. right
FarPoint
(12,447 posts)His response proves the point of Fox sexism. It s a predictable response which Fox takes to the bank.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)my point.
FarPoint
(12,447 posts)due to the negative response the poster was receiving...as my point was to identify the methodical scheming by Fox to use sexism ....which is an effective tool by the posters example. The poster was "hooked" as well.
Fox is deplorable to women....they easily avoid confrontation for their sexist tactics. All Fox women seem to easily and willingly conform to Stepford Wives collective.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)regardless of the observation that is totally separate of making a sexist statement to get a giggle from it and fox news own form of sexism.
but require a negative response.
gollygee
(22,336 posts)I think that's pushing it.
FarPoint
(12,447 posts)but I don't sense the poster realized it was offensively sexist due to the Fox culture where it is encouraged and normal.
An apology from the poster would be appropriate in follow up.....
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)is the only half way decent thing this poster could do. he is not willing to. that only leaves us to assume his sexism was meant to offend.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)shenmue
(38,506 posts)I miss those days.
TBF
(32,102 posts)is "stupid".
bluesbassman
(19,379 posts)No matter how "booksmart" one might be, it takes a good deal of ignorance to be a racist.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)calimary
(81,514 posts)Well, that IS one way to pronounce it, after all.
Makes as much sense as anything else this poor dear has to say.
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rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)I thought Meh was funny, when referring to Ms. Kelly.
Feral Child
(2,086 posts)Feral Child
(2,086 posts)Thanks for listening.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)Here is the forensic reconstruction of St Nicholas:
Modern forensic anthropology has developed tools to help discover what people looked like. These techniques are primarily used to assist in identifying unknown crime victims. However, they can be used also for historic personages when there is access to the right information. Normally, this would be skeletal remains, including the skull.
St. Nicholas' remains are buried in the crypt of the Basilica di San Nicola in Bari, Italy. These bones were temporarily removed when the crypt was repaired during the 1950s. At the Vatican's request, anatomy professor Luigi Martino from the University of Bari, took thousands of minutely-detailed measurements and x-ray photographs (roentgenography) of the skull and other bones.
The current professor of forensic pathology at the University of Bari, Francesco Introna, knew advancements in diagnostic technique could yield much more from the data gathered in the 1950s. So he engaged an expert facial anthropologist, Caroline Wilkinson, at the University of Manchester in England, to construct a model of the saint's head from the earlier measurements.
<snip>
The result of the project is the image of a Greek man, living in Asia Minor (part of the Greek Byzantine Empire), about 60-years old, 5-feet 6-inches tall, who had a heavy jaw and a broken nose.
http://www.stnicholascenter.org/pages/real-face/
And hereare the clips from Jon Stweart where he performed the beautiful Take Down of Megan Kelly & FOX "News"
http://www.thedailyshow.com/watch/thu-december-12-2013/war-on-christmas---s--t-s-getting-weird-edition---black-santa
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Warpy
(111,359 posts)She has no clue where her image of Santa came from (a Coke advertising campaign in the 1930s) nor of the other images that preceded it. Santa's got a lot of different faces and names and she doesn't know any of them--just the Coca Cola Santa that was picked up by greeting card companies.
The history is so much richer than that but she'd rather remain impoverished and get defensive toward anyone who points it out to her.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)think, convince themselves that "Santa is just white!" for example. They believe in an altered reality. This is a problem with conservatives.
truebluegreen
(9,033 posts)And you are correct: it goes with the "unskewed" polls of recent memory. An affliction of the right.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)spanone
(135,887 posts)Packerowner740
(676 posts)Can be whatever you want them to be.
Skittles
(153,202 posts)and by the way, all racists are overwhelmingly ignorant, not just "simply" ignorant
Gothmog
(145,619 posts)I am sad that she is a member of the bar
lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)It's impossible to know, and pointless to speculate about what she really thinks.
She works for the network of choice for idiots and racists.
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Incitatus
(5,317 posts)Triana
(22,666 posts)immoderate
(20,885 posts)She should know better, and I'm amazed that she doesn't. Nevertheless, it remains that it was broadcast to the nation, and I'm pegging the explanation as paid propagandist.
--imm
valerief
(53,235 posts)Half-Century Man
(5,279 posts)I thought Santa Claus was an elf. You know a northern European non-human pagan entity.
Saint Nicholas was a at best Mediterranean. probably a Semite.
Yeshua is a Semite.
Megyn Kelly is apparently an Aryan unber-mensch who rewrites history and science.
on point
(2,506 posts)2naSalit
(86,809 posts)obviously but also greedy.
slor
(5,504 posts)so...you already know.
JustAnotherGen
(31,911 posts)Shes doing her job. The job of a Fox news talking head is to be a race baiter.
El_Johns
(1,805 posts)specializes in meaningless FAUX controversy targeted at the lowest common denominator. So people will waste their time talking about stupid things that don't matter.
Initech
(100,105 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,911 posts)Initech
(100,105 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(108,234 posts)Ignorance and racism usually go hand in hand.
brettdale
(12,384 posts)Jese and Santa Are two people who would hate Fox news with a passion, they would hate what you do so much, even they
would be angry and mad and upset, they would hate your race baiting, your homophobic tendencies, they would
hate your manipulative ways and how you try to make people be against health care for poor people, just so the
sponsors of your tv show will be happy.
They would be happy if people gave to the poor, they would be happy if people were nice, if they lived in the
same era, they would be friends, they may even hold hands, maybe even kiss, who knows?
They certainly wouldn't like what you do for a living, but they would respect that's its your choice.
oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Really, FN has to have people practice for all the out of touch, out of reality things that get said on that network.
Bjorn Against
(12,041 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)El_Johns
(1,805 posts)It's a Murdoch franchise; this kind of clown show is his specialty.
El_Johns
(1,805 posts)"Following her graduation from Albany Law School in 1995, Kelly was an associate in the Chicago office of law firm Bickel & Brewer LLP, during which time she co-wrote an article for the American Bar Association's journal, Litigation, called "The Conflicting Roles of Lawyer as Director".[10] She later joined Jones Day for nine years, where she served as an attorney for credit bureau Experian."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Megyn_Kelly
Not dumb, not ignorant.
Either an idealogue or an actor or a shill.
Douglas Carpenter
(20,226 posts)Last edited Sat Dec 14, 2013, 11:31 AM - Edit history (1)
known people with all kinds of impressive credentials who just are not very smart. I think some people learn at a young age with proper coaching how to take tests and complete assignments that meet all the requirements for good grades. But they do not have basic critical thinking skills or the ability to think abstractly, linearly or to see the big picture.
El_Johns
(1,805 posts)what's more easily explained by amorality?
ceeRoy
(69 posts)great post....i believe that as well after having the experience of working with some geniuses in my career field.
Prophet 451
(9,796 posts)Santa Claus, the fictional character, can be any ethnicity you like. But St. Nicholas and Jesus would both have a hard time getting a cab in certain cities.
AverageJoe90
(10,745 posts)It's a possibility we can't ignore, IMHO.
energumen
(76 posts)And discuss the Jesus question. Is everyone saying Jesus was a member of the Negro race? Jesus would have been of Jewish heritage. Let's face it, he would have looked like a standard suicide bomber. And if he was alive today probably would have made most people nervous since he would have been considered a religious radical.
By the way, I am not in any way, shape, or form implying Jesus would have been a suicide bomber or condoned said practice.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)of uneducated people.
Everyone on the earth has African genes. And we are all closely related.
http://jqjacobs.net/anthro/ancestors.html
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)ceeRoy
(69 posts)what jesus looked like...he could have been black...he was definately jewish. no one really knows what the racial make up of people that lived in isreal 2000+ years ago was like, theres a set of ancient black jews that live in ethiopia now that migrated from isreal over a 1000 years ago...they were original jews too, not converts....jesus could have been one of them...dont you think thats possible?
Dash87
(3,220 posts)The biggest offender of this is O'Reilly. He goes off on tangents for books and movies that he's never even seen. When called out on this, he says that his research team read it for him. Um... Then why are you talking about it? Get someone who has read the book/movie, or don't talk about it at all.
Egalitarian Thug
(12,448 posts)Coyotl
(15,262 posts)Santa, here. I was hanging out with your Lord and Savior, stringing some popcorn in heaven, and we figured we'd drop you a line. We don't want to make too big a deal about this -- we're both pretty multicultural -- but we want to get the record straight.
We're not white people.
I'm sorry if this bothers you. But it's the truth. St. Nick and Jesus are not, and never have been, from the dry part of the bird.
First of all, modern concepts of whiteness just plain don't apply ..........
gulliver
(13,197 posts)She just favors her own race over others. It's favoritism. Race-based favoritism.
Blue_Roses
(12,894 posts)Ignorance and racism are one in the same.
geek tragedy
(68,868 posts)Fox's old white racist demographic into watching.
underpants
(182,911 posts)AlinPA
(15,071 posts)Mariana
(14,861 posts)Her job is to make her audience want to continue to watch her show, so the advertisers will continue to pay big buck for ad time. She does that by telling her audience what they want to hear.
That's really all there is to it.
Beacool
(30,253 posts)Greta is an exception on both counts, but by and large, they seem to hire more on looks than on experience.
Iggo
(47,571 posts)Initech
(100,105 posts)Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)liberal N proud
(60,346 posts)something she willingly does, she is both racist bigot and ignorant as the FOX viewers.
DinahMoeHum
(21,812 posts)"dumb broad", "dumb blonde", "blow in her ear and she'll follow you anywhere", etc.