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(48,181 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)themaguffin
(3,816 posts)el_bryanto
(11,804 posts)Scuba
(53,475 posts)... he's moved the needle further in a couple months than his predecessors did in 16 centuries.
Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)When they start editing the catechism, then the church will have moved. Until then it's really only lip service. You can still be excommunicated for advocating Marxism, socialism, abortion, birth control, or gay marriage regardless of what the latest pope has said.
laserhaas
(7,805 posts)He is stating stuff - oh so good to hear - from one held so dear!
Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)In the first place, the worker must be paid a wage sufficient to support him and his family.
-- Pope Pius XI, 1931
We consider it our duty to reaffirm that the remuneration of work is not something that can be left to the laws of the marketplace; nor should it be a decision left to the will of the more powerful. It must be determined in accordance with justice and equity; which means that workers must be paid a wage which allows them to live a truly human life and to fulfill their family obligations in a worthy manner.
-- Pope John XXIII, 1961
Workers not only want fair pay, they also want to share in the responsibility and creativity of the very work process. They want to feel that they are working for themselves --an awareness that is smothered in a bureaucratic system where they only feel themselves to be "cogs" in a huge machine moved from above.
-- Pope John Paul II, 1981
Other factors too enter into the assessment of a just wage: namely, the effective contribution which each individual makes to the economic effort, the financial state of the company for which he works, the requirements of the general good of the particular country ... and finally the requirements of the common good of the universal family of nations....
-- Pope John Paul II, 1981
Yet the workers' rights cannot be doomed to be the mere result of economic systems aimed at maximum profits. The thing that must shape the whole economy is respect for the workers' rights within each country and all through the
world's economy.
-- Pope John Paul II, 1981
It is right to struggle against an unjust economic system that does not uphold the priority of the human being over capital and land.
-- Pope John Paul II, 1991
Meanwhile Catholic dogma on central economic planning remains unchanged.
Fidel Castro, excommunicated, 1962
Sebastian Kappen, disciplined by the Catholic church, book disavowed, censured, 1980
Leonardo Boff, disciplined by the Catholic church and suspended from religious duties, 1985
Tissa Balasuriya, disciplined by the Catholic church and excommunicated, 1997
Countless other Catholics and priests received all manners of removal and disciplinary action for daring to challenge the official position of the church.
So what has changed exactly?