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Oh, you think A&E is violating Phil Robertson's right to free speech? (Original Post) Playinghardball Dec 2013 OP
The idiot probably had a "morals clause" in his contract. MADem Dec 2013 #1
No, I think it's a publicity stunt. It was announced he was planning to leave the show long before El_Johns Dec 2013 #2
Is that true? I hadn't heard that. If you have a link or source, I would purely love ... 11 Bravo Dec 2013 #8
Your wish, etc. And note the family's "cleaned up" photos. Off for tennis! El_Johns Dec 2013 #9
From July Go Vols Dec 2013 #3
DAMNIT!!! Something happened today. Something I never thought would. Glassunion Dec 2013 #4
The First Amendment only applies to State Actors Gothmog Dec 2013 #5
some more graphics ... napkinz Dec 2013 #6
and ... napkinz Dec 2013 #7
Nnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #10
A&E is a Corporation that sells their merchandise over the Cable Network bvar22 Dec 2013 #11
it could aslso read... pepperbear Dec 2013 #12

MADem

(135,425 posts)
1. The idiot probably had a "morals clause" in his contract.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 05:03 PM
Dec 2013

Some sort of paragraph, slapped up in there, that says "If you act like a fool, we can fire you."

He was free to act like a fool. They're free to fire his ass!

Maybe the Dixie Chicks can sing him off ....! That "Goodbye Earl" song would work...

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
2. No, I think it's a publicity stunt. It was announced he was planning to leave the show long before
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 05:05 PM
Dec 2013

this happened.

Just ginning up the faux outrage.

11 Bravo

(23,928 posts)
8. Is that true? I hadn't heard that. If you have a link or source, I would purely love ...
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 05:45 PM
Dec 2013

to shove them squarely up the ass of a few wingnut acquaintances.

 

El_Johns

(1,805 posts)
9. Your wish, etc. And note the family's "cleaned up" photos. Off for tennis!
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 05:52 PM
Dec 2013

On Edit: Thanks to a friend who found this article from earlier this year, in which Phil announced his likely departure from the show: http://m.usmagazine.com/entertainment/news/duck-dynastys-phil-robertson-i-wont-do-the-show-much-longer-2013267





Glassunion

(10,201 posts)
4. DAMNIT!!! Something happened today. Something I never thought would.
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 05:12 PM
Dec 2013

I am trashing the word "Duck" in GD. Yes. The word "Duck". Who the hell would have ever thought, just a few days ago, that the word "Duck" would be trash worthy?

Gothmog

(145,722 posts)
5. The First Amendment only applies to State Actors
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 05:22 PM
Dec 2013

Unless a governmental entity is doing the censorship, the First Amendment does not apply. Here the TV network is free to take whatever steps they want and there is no violation of the First Amendment. This is basic constitutional law. Here is a brief explanation of this requirement from Cornell Law School http://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/state_action_requirement

The state action requirement stems from the fact that the constitutional amendments which protect individual rights (especially the Bill of Rights and the 14th Amendment) are mostly phrased as prohibitions against government action. For example, the First Amendment states that “[c]ongress shall make no law” infringing upon the freedoms of speech and religion. Because of this requirement, it is impossible for private parties (citizens or corporations) to violate these amendments, and all lawsuits alleging constitutional violations of this type must show how the government (state or federal) was responsible for the violation of their rights. This is referred to as the state action requirement.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
11. A&E is a Corporation that sells their merchandise over the Cable Network
Fri Dec 20, 2013, 07:44 PM
Dec 2013
A&E (an initialism for its former name, the Arts & Entertainment Network), is an American cable and satellite television channel that serves as the flagship television property of A+E Networks, a joint venture between the Hearst Corporation and Disney–ABC Television Group (both of which maintain a 50% ownership interest).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A&E_%28TV_channel%29


Corporations have the right to control their marketing and messaging.
If a Corporation feels that a particular salesman, or anybody interfacing with the public, does NOT uphold the standards and the Image of their company,
they are well within their rights to discharge that salesman,
of assign him to another less public position.

What about Private Enterprise do the fuckwits NOT understand?

The 1st Amendment forbids our government from obstructing Free Speech.
First Amendment to the Constitution of the United States

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


Since A&E is NOT an agency of the US Government,
the 1st Amendment does NOT apply.

It also does NOT apply to my home.
If Sarah Palin, or any of these other fuckwits, comes into my home and starts spouting this nonsense,
they will be shown to the door with a copy of the First Amendment indelicately jammed into their front pocket.

pepperbear

(5,648 posts)
12. it could aslso read...
Sat Dec 21, 2013, 02:31 AM
Dec 2013

"Oh, you think A&E is violating Phil Robertson's right to free speech?"

"You should really take a look at the 1st amendment again."

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