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The bushy beards on "Duck Dynasty" are part of a long history of using facial hair to signify "traditional" valuesTheres lots to write about regarding Duck Dynasty as a cultural phenomenon, but Im going to focus on the history behind American beards and why that history is essential to the shows success. Over at History Scene, Sarah Gold McBride provides a fantastic historical recap of the power of the beard in terms of shaping masculinity in the 19th century. The 19th century was a period of vast changes during which the modern world as we know it was formed. Indeed, many of the cultural, political, and economic tropes that we acknowledge today were first articulated and solidified in the 19th century, and this includes beards and their relationship to manhood.
As Gold McBride writes, with vast social, political and economic change, women began to take a more active role in public life. This led to widespread male anxiety about gender roles, which in turn fueled the development of the idea of separate spheres of influence. Under this schema, she notes, men laid claim to public places like taverns and city streets, while women were confined to private spaces namely, the home. Rather than being a realistic description of gender roles, however, the notion of separate spheres instead provided a largely symbolic reaffirmation of idealized male and female divisions. Such theoretical gender distinctions appealed to men seeking to uphold their masculinity in distinctively visual ways. These distinctions included the realm of truly epic beard growth. Thus, in the 19th century, beards came to define a concept of manhood in a way that was unmistakably visual to better distinguish men from increasingly public women in an era when, Gold McBride observes, traditional markers of masculinity were no longer stable or certain.
So what does the rise of beards in the 19th century have to do with Duck Dynastys popularity in 2013? Much of the shows popularity stems from its carefully controlled depiction of very generic, supposedly down home southern American values like family, Christian religious observance, traditional gender roles, patriotism, humility, good manners, reverence for the outdoors and general redneck-ness. Thrown together in a pot, these values create a simmering, clichéd stew of good ol folk Southern identity that harks all the way back to the antebellum South. At that time, divisions over slavery led Southerners to double down on cultural distinctions between themselves and the North in an effort to mark out Southern values as superior.
Minus the slavery issue, of course, the above-listed generic stew of Southern cultural values survived well into the 20th century because these values seemingly offered an authentic alternative to the fast-paced, modern, industrializing nation that emerged after the Civil War. As historian James C. Cobb observes in Redefining Southern Culture: Mind and Identity in the Modern South, culture is a process, and in the post-Civil War South, Southern culture was an ongoing cycle of interaction during which some Southerners constantly shaped, reshaped, and reformed Southern cultural identity to adapt older traditions to the demands of modern life. This redesigned Southern identity sought to simultaneously combat and accommodate the social change that threatened to leave Dixie and its culture in the dust. The Souths general cultural, political, and religious conservatism aided this continuing process.
Now, in the 21st century, the vague idea of Southern culture, defined by traditional religion, gender roles, guns, family values and patriotism, has been mass-produced and sold via shows like Duck Dynasty. The show is consumed by a large segment of the American public that is fed up with what they perceive as the modern worlds assault on traditional values and religion. These viewers are willing to commit their time to a little slice of supposedly authentic Southern American-ness to combat the secular hordes of social reformers roaring at traditions gates.
The beards in Duck Dynasty symbolize this general, supposedly authentic, but actually mass-produced, Southern cultural conservatism. As Gold McBride noted, 19th century beards symbolized masculinity and an affirmation of gender distinctions in an age when gender roles were shifting. Contemporary America is witnessing many of the trends that shaped the 19th century, including growing income inequality and movements by various minority groups to claim their human rights.
Duck Dynastys bearded male stars offer a symbolic reaffirmation of traditional values onto which many Americans threatened by social change can latch. The Robertson mens bushy beards, like beards in the 19th century, distinguish them from the Robertson women and symbolize Southern masculinity. Just look at the hirsute Robertsons favorite things: they do manly activities like hunting, fishing, shooting guns and praising God. Hell, their entire business is built around the idea that men hunt to bring home food and take care of the family.
http://www.salon.com/2013/10/20/the_secret_conservative_message_of_the_duck_dynasty_beards/
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)Not to detract from the article, which makes valid arguments, IMO.
It's just that the beards ought not be associated with the wearers of them so much as with the network that pimps them.
TrollBuster9090
(5,954 posts)make major bucks by growing a beard, and putting on a fake 'reality' TV show.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Maybe the cammo is the modern substitute.
I think the only thing left unclear. Did the family cook up this modern day minstrel show on their own or are they entirely a creation of some a-holes in Los Angeles?
These guys are as "authentic" as Rapper Rick Ross. Another "character" who serves to promote the most vile stereo-types.
yuiyoshida
(41,831 posts)guessing that is a yes.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Tush - "Lord take me downtown I'm just looking for some tush"
Legs - She's got legs....
La Grange - Rumour spreadin' a-'round in that Texas town
'bout that shack outside La Grange
and you know what I'm talkin' about.
Just let me know if you wanna go
to that home out on the range.
They gotta lotta nice girls ah.
Sharp Dressed Man - They come runnin' just as fast as they can
Coz' every girl's crazy 'bout a sharp dressed man.
One might infer that they are not the most progressive men around.
pipi_k
(21,020 posts)enough, you can clearly see photos of Ronald Reagan fashioned from artfully arranged beard hairs.
They tried being more up-to-date with beard hair Teabagger manifestos, but gave up when they found it was too hard to dot the "i's".
K.O. Stradivarius
(115 posts)BainsBane
(53,032 posts)Note I wrote Islamists (adherents of a radical branch of Islam), not Muslims.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Common to the extreme sunni and shia muslims and those of the Jewish faith who identify as orthodox.
All cultures that practice separation of the sexes and subjugation of women.
Good Catch.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)Best post i seen today
mathematic
(1,439 posts)I can't believe anybody takes this seriously. Men have been growing beards apolitically for thousands of years, at least.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)People have grown beards forever or shave, very true...
Meanwhile, men bound together by religion or ideology, grow identical beards. The group is making a statement. That this statement has meaning.
The meaning of that statement is what is being debated, not if it exists.
quaker bill
(8,224 posts)There is a reason for that. Whether the message is political or not is open to debate. That it is a poor caricature of the South is not debatable.
TlalocW
(15,381 posts)TlalocW
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)The beards are part of the costume. It's not "symbolism," it's got no deeper meaning, than some exec deciding that these characters need to look like they just rolled out of Possum Holler in order to convey the stereotype of "redneck" effectively.
Also, if we're going to equate beards with conservativism, well.. gotta explain this magnificent throat-pelt:
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)See #4
This beard theory only applies to groups of men who are bearded together and consider it part of their culture.
When a culture is represented by bearded men, you'll be hard pressed to find liberated women.
(Still working on where hippies fit in to this theory)
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)...I say, as I stroke my beard with a suitably thoughtful look.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Take 10 random guys here, sure some will have beards.
If they all had beards, they might be a member of a subculture.
Around here that would be subculture would be bears...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear_(gay_culture)
or unix programmers, both groups not the most welcoming to women.
The distinction is in numbers, and if it's used as a cultural emblem.
You might like this guy... http://mrincredibeard.wordpress.com
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)Well, aside from the fact all my buds are seven-foot swedes and I'm a five-something Welsh guy... but the principle remains.
There's a lot of beards up here in the northwest.
I think what you're looking for is the notion that sometimes beards are used as an expression of static and publicly-displayed gender roles. The two correlate, but really aren't indicative of one another. You can't really make a rule about it, any more than you could make a rule about shaving.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Optional is just that..
Looking at the Islamic beard tradition, it mentions it as a way to distinguish themselves from pagans. It doesn't focus on the gender roles.
The effects with gender may be incidental...
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)bananas
(27,509 posts)No bigotry there!
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Ghost in the Machine
(14,912 posts)I'm from the South, lived in the South all my life, except for about 9 months in Michigan. I'm almost 51 years old, have hair over half way down my back and haven't seen my chin or upper lip since 1984, when I was 21 years old. Over the last 30 years I've had a beard that has ranged from a full beard half way down my chest, to a pretty short cropped goatee.
Let's just say I'm a Southern Liberal Atheist Hippie The ONLY "statement" I'm making with my beard is the fact that I HATE shaving!!! I can think of a thousand things I'd rather be doing than standing in front of a mirror, dragging a sharp piece of steel across my face. Shoving bamboo sticks under my fingernails rates higher on the list of things I'd rather do than shave, lol.
I *do* have a set of clippers to keep it groomed, or for when I decide to go from full beard to goatee, and even then, I don't use a razor after cutting down to the goatee. The clippers do a good job of cutting close, and I just keep the shadow.
Peace within, Peace between, Peace among...
Ghost
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)Almost ALL of the Bolsheviks had some sort of facial hair also. Engels had a beard.
I personally think it's probably some sort of attempt to co-opt a certain set of redneck culture and mainstream it. For profit too of course. To a slightly conservative, average white guy working in an office strangled by a tie every day, this look (and the entire culture represented by the show from what I've read because I've never seen it probably represents some sort of freedom. Not only the freedom from that aforesaid tie and office, but a freedom to let long held biases hang out.
And since these biases are a large part of the attraction of fascism, the mainstreaming of this culture would prepare a sub-group of society with the possibility of being the Brown Shirts, IF capitalism needs that to survive.
AtheistCrusader
(33,982 posts)OnionPatch
(6,169 posts)I can't help noticing a recent trend among very conservative, tea-party-type men to sport not just beards, but ZZ Top - style beards in particular. I suppose this could just be anecdotal in my circle of acquaintances, but I can't help thinking it's become a statement of some kind among their ilk.
rppper
(2,952 posts)Maybe one of these asshats can tell me face to face how unmanly my 6-2, 230lbs, bald heavily tattooed self is.....I'm guessing it isn't going to happen anytime soon....
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)One think I don't see on those boys, tattoo's, probably too permanent and too real.
rppper
(2,952 posts)They all cover up with a t shirt and pants! It is hot in central Florida....anyone growing a beard down here just to make a political statement is either a dumbass, hiding some scars or a glutton for punishment IMHO!
Yeah I don't think they have the tolerance for a 5-7 hour sitting.
groundloop
(11,518 posts)I have a beard, just 'cause I'm too damned lazy to shave most of the time. The Robertson clan grew beards (has anyone ever investigated to see if those beards are real?) 'cause their production company figured out that a family which looked and talked like throwbacks could gain a following.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Always treat facial hair with suspicion.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)And yes, now I remember when Matt Smith was Churchill's soothsayer, I think he grew the beard in captivity.
Arcanetrance
(2,670 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)See post #4 for the context...
wooosh
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)It was just a lighthearted joke post.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)Thanks for the reminder..
Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)arely staircase
(12,482 posts)since women got the vote.
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Just Googled it: Charles Evans Hughes, defeated in 1916. Anybody here ever heard of that dude?
arely staircase
(12,482 posts)lumberjack_jeff
(33,224 posts)Demo_Chris
(6,234 posts)It's a costume for characters they are playing. The show is "The Beverly Hillbillies" redone. That's all. Someone in Hollywood decided that hillbillies need to look like extras from The Dukes Of Hazard, and here we are. That's it.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)bananas
(27,509 posts)except for Uncle Jesse.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)"redneck cartoon caracter" - notice most characters are clean shaven.
Google "hillbilly cartoon caracter" - still sort of look like the "redneck cartoons"
Google "Old hillbilly cartoon caracter" - bingo!
I assume the show replaced jeebus with moonshine for marketing purposes.
These guys are pretending to be Appalachia hillbillies. They don't even have their regional costumes correct.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)- FULL MOVIE
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvin_Sutton
Zorra
(27,670 posts)as a means of identifying as a conservative.
The world would be a lot safer and more pleasant for the rest of humanity if we could recognize conservatives on sight, because they all had duck beards.
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)I think it would be a beard-cammo combo..
Thankfully there will be some who self identify their "traditionalist" ways through this costume. Especially now that it's been repackaged for what it is...
MineralMan
(146,288 posts)this article is fallacious hoohaw. Back when I first grew one, the "traditionalists" called me a fucking hippie. It wasn't a symbol of anything except rebellion to them then. Later, when conservatives and construction workers started growing beards people's reactions to them changed somewhat. I still had mine. Once, my late grandmother told me that I should shave my ugly beard. I pointed out that the photo on the wall of her own father, a 19th century man, showed him with a large full beard. "What about that, Grandma?" She said, "Well, that was the style for men then." "And now, grandma, it is once again a style for men." She got the point.
What are beards about? That varies from individual to individual. For me, my full beard, which has been of many different lengths, including chest length, mine is about my unwillingness to spend any time during the day shaving it off. That's it. I think I look better with a beard, too, and my wife agrees, even though she's never seen me without it.
This article is a bunch of fallacious hoohaw, made up by some writer who needed some material to write. It's basically bullshitting.
Gothmog
(145,176 posts)forthemiddle
(1,379 posts)But as someone who actually watched the show BEFORE all the hate, I can say this woman (Juanita Jean) had obviously never seen the show.
First quote from the article - "Have you ever seen a person of color on that show? No, you have not." Almost every show, Phils biracial grandson is shown.
Quote #2 - "And how do women have a say in family matters? By hoochy only." - Like all other sitcoms on the air this past decade, the woman are the ones in charge in the marriages. If the wife says jump, each and every Robertson male says "how high". Again just like every other sitcom out there today.
Quote #3 - "And why does that one brother never appear on the show? Uh, maybe hes in the closet?" - The one brother, which the others all affectionately call the black sheep of the family, is the family unbearded Pastor. So although a Pastor I suppose, could be "in the closet" I highly doubt it in this case.
As I said, I watched the show BEFORE the article came out, and I am not defending what was said in the interview. I probably won't watch it again, but when putting out a screed like juanitajean.com did, you would think she should have watched the show? Otherwise it is just another person jumping on the band wagon, not unlike Sarah Palin who admitted she never read the interview before opening her big mouth.
Carry on........
Jesus Malverde
(10,274 posts)I'm really glad you emphasize the sit-com aspect of this show.
To me this whole exercise has been a massive marketing campaign delivered to the american consumer over the Christmas holiday with a solid narrative for everyone, fans and haters alike.
The formerly marginal Robinson brand is now an internationally known cultural lightning rod, wrapped up into one.
Oh the drama.. will the Republicans let Phil speak at their next convention??? Oh the drama....
The biggest damage we can do to the brand is to un-mask Phil as the college football star, masters degree, millionaire with golfing, popped collar, highlighted hair, yuppie sons.
These guys are actors and no one in the mainstream media are calling these yuppie out.
forthemiddle
(1,379 posts)But I have actually been here for years and years, only commenting very seldomly.
I am not a "me too" poster, and I find 99% of what needs to be said is already stated by someone much more eloquently the what I can do. I just saw the linked blog and wanted to point out the obvioulsy uninformed comments made.
As for the fakeness of the show, I am not sure that to the avid viewers it really matters. Most people that I know watched it only for the mindless entertainment it afforded. I kind of liked watching a show that I didn't have to think about, just sit back and giggle at some of the antics of a family that truly did seem to love each other.
Again, I don't think I will continue to watch the show, but as you said, maybe if the rest of the world took it as entertainment only, and not looked at Phil (or any other entertainer) as their savior, we would all be better off.
Sometimes is ok to just laugh, without bringing the real world into it.
On the Road
(20,783 posts)Am a bit puzzled by this quote:
The show is consumed by a large segment of the American public that is fed up with what they perceive as the modern worlds assault on traditional values and religion.
Going by the first quote, the author apparently agrees with that characterization. Why the phrase "what they percieve as"?
onethatcares
(16,168 posts)grows. But my daddy, rest his spirit, once told me,
"Why cultivate something on your face that grows wild on your ass?"
eridani
(51,907 posts)Nuclear Unicorn
(19,497 posts)Vinca
(50,269 posts)Skidmore
(37,364 posts)clerics of any monotheistic religion and their followers and the message is still the same: those who do not look and believe like you are to be subordinated, shunned, or punished. There is no difference in hatred as theology.
dawg
(10,624 posts)be able to shave, remain relatively anonymous, and get to walk around like normal people without crazy fans coming up to them constantly. It's brilliant, if you ask me.
Smart move, the guy from gold rush says the same thing. When his run is over the beard comes off and he's just another guy.
retread
(3,762 posts)Mean, close-minded, patriarchal, bible-thumpers, are a dime-a-dozen here in the South.