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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums"The China Study" has been debunked. I'm not surprised at all.
Seems that T. Colin Campbell did a false "study" so he could advocate woo.
http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/the-china-study-revisited/
hedda_foil
(16,374 posts)College: Attended Northern Arizona University. Changed majors several times, bouncing between the sciences (to feed my brain) and the arts (to feed my soul). Eventually settled on English, because the common denominator in everything I loved to do involved writing. Enjoyed many of my classes, but felt they were more about regurgitating what the teachers wanted to hear than actually thinking critically. I found it difficult to spend any focused time studying things I wasnt passionate about. Tried to take classes that culminated with 40-page research papers because I deeply enjoyed producing them. Walked in the December 2007 graduation with a 4.0, summa cum laude.
That about sums it up.
I have no problem with the author's position ... or yours. But she is totally unqualified to set herself up as qualified to handle this degree of medical statistical analysis
El_Johns
(1,805 posts)with the China study have similar credentials.
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Rex
(65,616 posts)One of the Worlds Greatest Threats to my belly.
1 meat to every 3 grain serving. Pretty much been my entire life diet. With too much fat intake. Unless my brain needed it, yeah let us go with that.
My brain likes peanut butter.
NRaleighLiberal
(60,014 posts)jazzimov
(1,456 posts)For one thing, it has very little mention of the study itself. As far as the author's "big experiment", well, judge for yourself:
1. His experiment used milk protein which as a representative of ALL animal protein.
2. He caramelized the milk protein, a process which has been shown to destroy all cancer-fighting properties of milk.
3. He fed his test mice aflatoxin, a known carcinogen. Yet, he then claimed the mice to which no caramelized milk protein was fed showed NO evidence of cancer or precancerous tumors, even after being fed huge amounts of a known carcinogen.
El_Johns
(1,805 posts)Campbell (professor of nutritional biochemistry at Cornell) wrote his book about the results of a 20-year study of Chinese people eating as they normally did, not eating carmelized milk. And not mice.
The ChinaCornellOxford Project was a large observational study conducted throughout the 1980s in rural China, jointly funded by Cornell University, the University of Oxford, and the government of China.[1] In 1991 The New York Times called it "the Grand Prix of epidemiology."[2]
The first two major studies were led by T. Colin Campbell, professor of nutritional biochemistry at Cornell, who summarized the results in his book, The China Study (2004). Other lead researchers were Chen Junshi, Deputy Director of Institute of Nutrition and Food Hygiene at the Chinese Academy of Preventive Medicine, Richard Peto of the University of Oxford, and Li Junyao of the China Cancer Institute.[3]
The study examined the diets, lifestyle and disease characteristics of 6,500 people in 65 rural Chinese counties, comparing the prevalence of disease characteristics, excluding causes of death such as accidents.[4]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China-Cornell-Oxford_Project
It looked at mortality rates from cancer and other chronic diseases from 1973 to 1975 in 65 counties in China; the data was correlated with 198384 dietary surveys and blood work from 100 people in each county. The research was conducted in those counties because they had genetically similar populations that tended, over generations, to live and eat in the same way in the same place. The study concluded that counties with a high consumption of animal-based foods in 198384 were more likely to have had higher death rates from "Western" diseases as of 197375, while the opposite was true for counties that ate more plant foods.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_China_Study
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)flvegan
(64,407 posts)Okay, whatever, LOL! I'm not surprised that this found it's way onto DU.
I look forward to the "discussion" on the topic.
chowder66
(9,069 posts)And there's this;
http://www.scribd.com/doc/76821348/It-s-Official-Denise-Minger-now-Exposed-as-DEBUNKED-The-China-Study-Troubleshooting-the-Non-Vegetarian-Rawfoodsos-Paleo-Fallacy-and-Mark-Sisson