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A politician tells the truth, but only DU members hear it. (Original Post) Scuba Dec 2013 OP
If a tree falls in the forest ......? Squinch Dec 2013 #1
Is it President Obama's fault? bearssoapbox Dec 2013 #17
Yes, it is..........nt Enthusiast Dec 2013 #20
I agree. bvar22 Dec 2013 #21
If a tree falls on a republican in the forest Half-Century Man Dec 2013 #36
I agree. And one can only hope to hear the squishy sound as we move in that leftward direction. Squinch Dec 2013 #38
Not just Congress but also the Presidency firsttimer Dec 2013 #2
If you control a significant portion of congress ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #5
I think more and more people are hearing it. sabrina 1 Dec 2013 #3
Name one elected official that didn't take corporate money? ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #10
What's your point? Or do we get to guess? nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #23
My point is ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #30
And you are telling us why? You dont think we already understand that? nm rhett o rick Dec 2013 #33
Well ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #37
But while most or all politicians take corporate money, some are still more rhett o rick Dec 2013 #39
No ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #40
I took the post to mean that it's important to know who who is funding candidates rhett o rick Dec 2013 #41
Not as much as ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #42
You might want to Caretha Dec 2013 #28
Relax ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #31
Confessions of a Job Creator? mitty14u2 Dec 2013 #4
SAT question...Congress is to Wall Street as.... kairos12 Dec 2013 #6
All of the above. Scuba Dec 2013 #8
neck is to boil eridani Dec 2013 #29
A politician CAN run as anti-Wall Street and win. No doubt about it. politichew Dec 2013 #7
+1,000 Scuba Dec 2013 #9
A politician can run as anti-wall street ... 1StrongBlackMan Dec 2013 #11
It's just part of the effort to privatize the government. You start with Congress . . . tclambert Dec 2013 #12
This has been true for years. WHEN CRABS ROAR Dec 2013 #13
I remember being completely stunned the first time I spoke politics with a conservabrit. Egalitarian Thug Dec 2013 #16
Kick And Recommend cantbeserious Dec 2013 #14
#memewin nashville_brook Dec 2013 #15
K&R DeSwiss Dec 2013 #18
Congress: "What are ya gonna do about it ...punk?" L0oniX Dec 2013 #19
K & R democrank Dec 2013 #22
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Dec 2013 #24
President Romney would have closed the loop, so Fred Sanders Dec 2013 #25
And Apparently... It's Not Just Wall Street: WillyT Dec 2013 #26
No, it's not ... Scuba Dec 2013 #27
Yes, only DUers know of this. JNelson6563 Dec 2013 #32
Bernie, I can hear you so clearly Iwillnevergiveup Dec 2013 #34
"only DU members hear it" NealK Dec 2013 #35

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
21. I agree.
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 06:00 PM
Dec 2013

If he is NOT helping (and he isn't),
then he is part of the problem.

He PROVED he knows how to use the Bully Pulpit during the campaign for a NEW War in Syria.
I would rather see him using this power of the Pulpit to help the Working Class, like Bernie Sanders!

Half-Century Man

(5,279 posts)
36. If a tree falls on a republican in the forest
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 08:12 AM
Dec 2013

does he make a squishy sound?

Stupid shit, bit that's how my brain works.
From the not using dumb humor to mask my fears, concerns, and suspicions side; I see a need to drag the DLC/third way/republicans lite as far left as we can. I see a need to get the damn money out of elections. I see a need to break the monopolies up.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. I think more and more people are hearing it.
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 12:08 PM
Dec 2013

But thanks for posting it again, it can't be said often enough.

And hopefully more and more people will look at who is funding candidates from now on before voting for them.

Corporate Donations to candidates for political office should become poison to their chances of being elected now that we know who is controlling them.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
10. Name one elected official that didn't take corporate money? ...
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 01:41 PM
Dec 2013

and, make no mistake, the National Association of Trial Lawyers of America and National Association of Realtors are just as corporate as Koch Industries.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
37. Well ...
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 08:54 AM
Dec 2013

the person I was responding to said "corporate funding is poisonous" or words to that effect ... I was pointing out that ALL elected officials on the nation stage accept corporate funding. So, by using that as disqualifying criteria, wouldn't that leave a very short list of folks to vote for?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
39. But while most or all politicians take corporate money, some are still more
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 11:46 AM
Dec 2013

honest than others. Your post seemed to dismiss corruption as a criteria.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
40. No ...
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 11:52 AM
Dec 2013

my post dismisses the "receives corporate money" as a criteria for qualifying candidates.

In the absence a public campaign financing, I am far more concerned with how an incumbent votes (and how a candidate says he/she will vote) than where his/her money comes from.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
41. I took the post to mean that it's important to know who who is funding candidates
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 08:31 PM
Dec 2013

before voting. I would agree with that, wouldnt you?

 

Caretha

(2,737 posts)
28. You might want to
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 09:49 PM
Dec 2013

rethink that statement. I'd like to choose my "Corporate" sponsored politician, and his/her sponsor thank you very much.

mitty14u2

(1,015 posts)
4. Confessions of a Job Creator?
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 01:14 PM
Dec 2013

Confessions of a Job Creator?

http://my.firedoglake.com/alevei/tag/fred-upton/

John Boehner & Fred Upton - Add to Cart


Health: Money to Congress

1 Boehner, John (R-OH) $1,257,182
5 Upton, Fred (R-MI) $797,315

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/summary.php?ind=H&cycle=2012&recipdetail=H&mem=Y

Oil & Gas: Top Recipients
3 Boehner, John (R-OH) $455,399
11 Upton, Fred (R-MI) $208,300

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=E01&cycle=2012&recipdetail=H&mem=Y&sortorder=U

Electric Utilities: Top Recipients
1 Boehner, John (R-OH) $407,850
2 Upton, Fred (R-MI) $275,500

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?Ind=H04&cycle=2012&recipdetail=H&Mem=Y&sortorder=U

Pharmaceuticals / Health Products: Top Recipients
1 Upton, Fred (R-MI) $301,365

http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?Ind=H04&cycle=2012&recipdetail=H&Mem=Y&sortorder=U

Mining: Top Recipients
1 Boehner, John (R-OH) $388,617
12 Upton, Fred (R-MI) $105,458
http://www.opensecrets.org/industries/recips.php?ind=E04&cycle=2012&recipdetail=H&mem=Y&sortorder=U


Confessions of a Job Creator?

http://my.firedoglake.com/alevei/tag/fred-upton/
 

politichew

(230 posts)
7. A politician CAN run as anti-Wall Street and win. No doubt about it.
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 01:37 PM
Dec 2013

Warren is our best bet as that candidate.

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
11. A politician can run as anti-wall street ...
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 01:44 PM
Dec 2013

and win a Senate seat, no doubt; but (IMHO) the presidency is bigger than just "wall street."

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
16. I remember being completely stunned the first time I spoke politics with a conservabrit.
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 03:29 PM
Dec 2013

He was frighteningly comfortable with his perceived place in the process. "The only say we have is when we drop that little tick in the box, and that's as it should be", I'll never forget his words as long as I live.

Since then I've many others that share that belief. It was one of those "ah ha" moments that helped me to understand just how submissive they are.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
25. President Romney would have closed the loop, so
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 07:32 PM
Dec 2013

...if you think President Obama stands with Wall Street also then you fail to grasp history and are being rather foolish.

NealK

(1,867 posts)
35. "only DU members hear it"
Tue Dec 24, 2013, 07:16 AM
Dec 2013

I first read that on Facebook so it's not only DU but the more it's spread the better.

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