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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI usually do this sort of thing in the Lounge, but since it's X-Mas, Ask Me Anything
Tonight's theme is to ask me to clarify statements that I've made that you're concerned about.
I just want to make sure that I'm understood as much as possible.
My standard disclaimer is that you may or may not like the answers I'll give you, but I will give them to you to the best of my all too limited abilities.
Have at me!
Skittles
(153,185 posts)I do holiday specials, you know
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)But we should have a coffee together and rhapsodize over each of our Bergstrom days.
Skittles
(153,185 posts)I was stuck for a while and gazing out the window and had such a feeling of deja vu - HELLO!! Been so long I forgot!
Drew Richards
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MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)madinmaryland
(64,933 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)panader0
(25,816 posts)But you didn't mention that he died today, age 94 I believe. Can you write about Lateef? Most have not heard of him.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)HipChick
(25,485 posts)tomorrow is major gift giving, and I haven't bought anyone anything,including my parents...I was just going to stick a big bow on my head and call it a day...my gift to them is me.. I don't belief in material gifts representing Xmas...
Should I be worried?
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Skittles
(153,185 posts)LEMME AT YOU!!!
HipChick
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Skittles
(153,185 posts)doc03
(35,363 posts)your war on Christmas. It's Christmas not fucking Xmas.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)We shall fight in French Lick, we shall fight on the seas and oceans, we shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air, we shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be. We shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender!
OmahaBlueDog
(10,000 posts)...so rather than ask you anything, I will offer my apologies, and wish you a Merry Christmas.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Have a happy holiday to you and yours!
nolabear
(41,991 posts)Your taste is varied and great fun to learn from.
I hope the season finds you happy and content and the New Year brings you more of the same.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)That's a good start!
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)That's one secret that will never be told!
WilliamPitt
(58,179 posts)For the Win.
Best to you and yours, old friend.
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Happy Holidays!
XRubicon
(2,212 posts)and Happy new year Mr Scorpio!
Tikki
(14,559 posts)Happy ____ DU
Tikki
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Happy Holidays!
BainsBane
(53,056 posts)You post a lot of really thoughtful OPs, and I especially appreciated your "I'm a man" post yesterday.
You are indeed a man, and a damn fine one.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)May you and yours have a very Happy Holiday!
GReedDiamond
(5,316 posts)...Santa Claus?
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)The Pic I took of Erik Estrada before I bothered him
Estrada with Santa!
GReedDiamond
(5,316 posts)Happy Everything to You and Everyone!!!
flvegan
(64,413 posts)We've talked for years, yet...no prancing horses.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Let's make it LAMBOS!
But one of us has to hit the lotto first!
flvegan
(64,413 posts)cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)might have taken could have been (I'm referring to your post "I'm a man"...)
"Dudes...
Approach EVERY social transaction with a female from the viewpoint of SHE'S YOUR EQUAL."
I don't know who you are, but I know you are convinced you're waaaay smarter than me. You might be. You PROBABLY ARE on some level, a LOT of levels maybe. Truth be known though? When I meet someone who lords their intelligence over me in the way you did in your "I am a Man" post, you come off as a person I can't respect. Is it not enough for you to BE smarter than me, do you have to go out of your way to try and PROVE it to the world, simply because our opinions diverge on a certain topic? Truth be known? I wouldn't buy a glass of beer to throw into your mouth if you were sitting next to me and your TEETH were on fire after you had made a statement to me such as the post you made this morning.
You're "all that" to a bunch of people here, but to me? You're condescending and at times insulting. At other times, you're jumping on bandwagons. You jumped on a bandwagon in the context of the "gender war". No doubt about it.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Somewhere in all of this, I don't know exactly where, you got the impression that I'm making this about you in particular. Now, why that's the case, I'd like you to explain it to me where I singled you out for for criticism. Because, what I wrote there, was written in general terms.
Now, I want to point out one thing, I didn't write that to be liked, or even to jump on any kind of bandwagon. As a matter of fact, I have some differences with some of the folks who agreed with my OP when it comes to other issues, like about porn, BDSM, consensual sex, what's offensive and maybe one or two other things. So when it comes to this so-called "Gender War," I want to be clear, I'm only speaking for myself and I'm only speaking for myself in addressing OTHER MEN in the matter of unwelcome, non-mutually consensual, harassment and intimidation of women.
And that was written as a way for me to inform other men, and ONLY those men, who would use their own male privilege in order to treat women disrespectfully and harass them, that I, as another man, find that conduct objectionable. It was not addressed to all men everywhere, only a certain sub-segment of bad actors.
This is NOT what I was doing:
- I was NOT demanding that all men apologize for being men
- I do NOT believe that being a man is bad or wrong
- I was NOT asking all men to be ashamed of being men
- I was NOT asking all men to feel guilty for being men
Now, I may have been blunt about it
But frankly, I care very little about beating around the bush when addressing bad and enabling behavior against women.
Instead, I was using my own male privilege as a backdrop to other men, whom either engaged in bad behavior or inserted themselves into the conversation in a way that enables bad behavior to do one thing: Check that privilege at the door.
So, what does that mean?
- When men, from their position of male privilege, are inserting themselves into a conversation where they shouldnt be, simply because they are going out of their way to justify and enable bad behavior by other men
They should recognize that the correct stance is to simply acknowledge what they are doing, apologize and stop it.
- These men should NOT be making the pain of women suffering from harassment about themselves, especially when they are NOT being directly accused of doing that... They should acknowledge what they are doing, apologize and stop it.
- When men, from their position of male privilege, justify and enable bad behavior of other men, they are belittling the pain of women who have to suffer because of that behavior... They should acknowledge what they are doing, apologize and stop it.
- Lastly, when men, from their position of male privilege, are making the fears, concerns and troubles of women who suffer from harassment less important than their own annoyance about them talking about their experiences... They should acknowledge what they are doing, apologize and stop it.
If you think that I was accusing you in particular of harassing women, well, you are wrong. I was not. I really don't know where you got that idea. Do I want all men to apologize for having male privilege? No, I never asked that either.
Do I want the guilt of having male privilege? No, not that either. None of these things are going to help matters.
Instead, it's quite clear what the problem of male privilege is, it blinds those who have it from understanding the extent of the effects that has on others who do not have it
But ONLY if they CHOOSE to be blinded in that way.
I choose not to be blinded. My choice should NOT infer that you are using your own in a bad way. Only YOU can make that declaration.
AS I said, I don't want your guilt. It does no good
As a matter of fact, the guilt only makes things worse, because it creates a reaction that does nothing except enable and justify bad behavior. It simply makes things worse.
Also, as to what you wrote to me; my advice to you is to not make it about yourself. It's not about you, your name wasn't called, no one's name was called. If you never engaged or enabled in the harassment of women, where are you exactly IN this conversation? I'm a bit confused by that, I have to say. You can insert your own self into the conversation, but I was very clear when I said that men, from their position of privilege, who inserted themselves into the conversation in order to enable and justify bad behavior were doing nothing more than whining and ONLY those men should shut the fuck up and listen to what the women were telling them.
It's not about me thinking that I'm smarter than you or anyone else. Frankly, I really don't care about that at all. I know for a fact that there are many other DUers who are smarter than myself and more educated, so for me, I am ill-equipped to engage in any kind of brainy pissing contest. I wouldn't even know where to start. Yes, I can be harsh
But I'm harsh because I want to cut through the crap. I don't have the patience to coddle people who should have no justification for their own actions.
Lastly, again, this is not about you. But you can make it about yourself. You can also stand up with the women who are being harassed and abused by other men. You can say that that is wrong and that there's absolutely no excuse for it. You can stand with others whom you may not always agree with, but agree with them on the issue that harassment and enabling behavior is bad and shouldn't happen. You can add quality to women's lives, in spite of the fact that they have to live everyday under the weight of a world bound by male privilege. Even if other men and society itself creates excuses to say otherwise.
If you really want to make it about yourself, you can make it about what's right and not about feeling guilty, because you think that someone is else accusing you in particular of making it wrong.
Codeine
(25,586 posts)MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)Happy Holidays!