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Tue Dec 31, 2013, 12:55 PM

 

Minnesota Officials Complain That Drug Testing Welfare Recipients Is A Waste Of Time And Money

Typical Teabaggerism: Create a bogeyman, waste time and money, punish the innocent.


http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/12/30/3108101/minnesota-drug-testing/#

Minnesota counties are preparing to start randomly drug testing the individuals who receive welfare benefits, a new requirement that was passed as an amendment during the 2012 legislative session. But local officials are frustrated with the new policy, saying it’s largely a waste of time and money — and could actually end up costing taxpayers.

The drug-testing policy was touted as a method of saving taxpayer dollars, intended to lower the number of people who receive state benefits by excluding drug users. But county officials and anti-poverty advocates point out it’s based on the flawed assumption that a large portion of welfare beneficiaries are using illegal drugs. In reality, according to a recent analysis from the state’s Department of Health Services, welfare recipients are far less likely to have felony drug convictions than the general population.

And the law — which requires each country to conduct “random” drug tests among the small pool of people who receive government benefits and also have a prior felony drug conviction — will result in a web of complicated new regulations. It’s up to each county to figure out how to enforce it, so local officials are currently devising plans for notifying beneficiaries about the new law and asking them to come in for testing. Since the legislation didn’t include additional funding to carry out the drug testing, counties are taking on any extra costs themselves.

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One of the biggest issues with Minnesota’s new law is that some people may end up getting cut off from their benefits not because they’re actually using drugs, but because they don’t have the right paperwork. Now, in order to keep receiving state assistance, the people who have previously been convicted of a drug felony must prove that they’re either participating in drug treatment, have successfully completed treatment, or have received a county assessment confirming they don’t treatment. But according to Kathleen Davis, a supervising attorney at Mid-Minnesota Legal Aid, many of these welfare recipients are homeless or in transitional housing. It may be too difficult for local officials to contact them in time, and they may not have all the required documents.

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Reply Minnesota Officials Complain That Drug Testing Welfare Recipients Is A Waste Of Time And Money (Original post)
Scuba Dec 2013 OP
etherealtruth Dec 2013 #1
Comrade Grumpy Dec 2013 #2
bcool Dec 2013 #3
SCVDem Dec 2013 #12
DeSwiss Dec 2013 #4
Stargazer99 Dec 2013 #5
DeSwiss Dec 2013 #7
Jerry442 Dec 2013 #9
DeSwiss Dec 2013 #11
Jenoch Dec 2013 #14
Curmudgeoness Dec 2013 #6
DeSwiss Dec 2013 #8
oldandhappy Dec 2013 #10
Curmudgeoness Dec 2013 #13

Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 01:17 PM

1. More attempts to vilify and humiliate the poor n/t

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Response to etherealtruth (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:06 PM

2. Spot on. n/t

 

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:34 PM

3. In MO, it cost $25,000 per drug user to perform the tests

Kansas is set to begin a drug-testing program for some welfare recipients similar to one in Missouri that cost about $500,000 that has uncovered fewer than two dozen people trying to abuse the system.

After eight months and 636 drug test requests, 20 people tested positive in Missouri this year. About 200 others refused to comply.

http://www.stltoday.com/news/state-and-regional/missouri/kansas-to-start-testing-welfare-recipients/article_c1d8898f-c184-5140-8bd7-77965282a022.html

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Response to bcool (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:56 PM

12. They failed to report

 

Exactly what they tested positive for.

I can get a quarter oz of shake for $20 and it will last 2 - 3 weeks. Try that with alcohol.

I may test positive due to the metabolites which linger.

What's the point of this again?

Screw you J D Anslinger !

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 02:35 PM

4. When you elect idiots.....

 

...this is what idiots do.

- Why is anyone surprised by this?

K&R


''We can, if we so desire, refuse to cooperate with the blind forces that are propelling us.'' ~Aldous Huxley

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:00 PM

5. You forgot to name the idiots-they are Republicans who insisted on this testing

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Response to Stargazer99 (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:20 PM

7. I didn't forget.

 

- It is understood that they are Republicans. They're pretty much the only ones in the world who do this stupid shit.

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Response to DeSwiss (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:29 PM

9. If your goal is to torment poor people and divert resources away from them...

...then this was a successful policy. Evil maybe, but not stupid.

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Response to Jerry442 (Reply #9)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:41 PM

11. Evil AND stupid.

 

- IMO.

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Response to Stargazer99 (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 04:02 PM

14. Governor Mark Dayton did not veto the legislation, he signed it.

 

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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:12 PM

6. "Since the legislation didn't include additional funding......"

This is the way it always is. Some hare-brained mandate that has to be paid for by "someone else". I have heard that Florida tried this, and it cost them a fortune and did not decrease the numbers on welfare. You go for it, Minnesota, reinvent the wheel.

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Response to Curmudgeoness (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:25 PM

8. They've never proved that it works.

 

Of course why would that stop them? That's not why they're doing it anyways.

- They do it because they're fucking evil.





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Response to Scuba (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 03:31 PM

10. Hmmm The party of small government!!

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Response to oldandhappy (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 31, 2013, 04:00 PM

13. Amen. nt

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