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Will Melissa Perry be fired? (Original Post) PM Martin Dec 2013 OP
Fired for making fun of the way the GOP has to SEARCH HARD for 1 black to show their diversity? Vincardog Dec 2013 #1
Donahue got fired for having the highest ratings on his network Fumesucker Dec 2013 #3
Yes they can. We can delete them from our viewing schedules as well. Vincardog Dec 2013 #5
Eh, if you didn't delete them when Donahue was fired it's a little late to do so now Fumesucker Dec 2013 #8
I hope not. n/t GP6971 Dec 2013 #2
seems to be the trend lately with that network firsttimer Dec 2013 #4
she did not say anything. guest did, nt seabeyond Dec 2013 #6
While the comment was out of line and she was right to apologize... Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #7
"she" didn't say it....her guest did. VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #13
Thanks, I edited my subject line to say the comment rather than her comment. Bjorn Against Dec 2013 #18
Um no....maybe the guest. VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #22
Where did I say otherwise? Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #30
sigh VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #44
Seriously, I don't know what you think is wrong with my post Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #45
If it is my subject line you disagree with let me just say this... Bjorn Against Jan 2014 #46
thank you for clarifying... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #48
If anyone should be in trouble... civillawyer Jan 2014 #43
The comment was not out of line. The GOP does have to work real hard to find ONE black person Vincardog Jan 2014 #57
Nnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #9
Bashir gave a sincere apology too, then he "resigned" a few days later. If they keep yelling and Chakab Dec 2013 #11
Who's "they"? cherokeeprogressive Dec 2013 #20
A chorus of some on the Left seem to be adding to the signal noise. VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #23
Many on the left tend to do themselves in over petty issues. PM Martin Jan 2014 #31
quick to form the circlular firing squad... VanillaRhapsody Jan 2014 #54
Very true. n/t FSogol Jan 2014 #52
I also believe Bashir's apology was sincere. onpatrol98 Jan 2014 #58
Probably. If the Right yells loud enough about something that a person on the left has said, the Chakab Dec 2013 #10
phony outrage seems to be the status quo for some.... VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #12
Ain't that the truth! nt arthritisR_US Jan 2014 #49
of course she will after the rw starts screaming. It's what they do. NightWatcher Dec 2013 #14
I wonder if Shmoe Scarborough is having a talk with the President of MSNBC as we speak. nt octoberlib Dec 2013 #15
Mr. Dead Intern? PM Martin Dec 2013 #24
+1 octoberlib Dec 2013 #26
maybe FSTV will give some of these folks a megaphone rurallib Dec 2013 #16
Really DonCoquixote Dec 2013 #17
The liberals always back down to the right wingers kimbutgar Dec 2013 #19
because alot of "liberals" never seem to miss any opportunity to VanillaRhapsody Dec 2013 #25
That's true, liberals don't stick up for their own the way conservatives do. Liberals usually Raine Jan 2014 #38
It's the price we pay for trying to be "above it all" ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jan 2014 #51
Yes. GeorgeGist Dec 2013 #21
She's toast. Archaic Dec 2013 #27
Probably, given the track record of firing after abject apologies elfin Dec 2013 #28
No. She apologized and that should be it. hrmjustin Dec 2013 #29
Why would she? She didn't say anything negative about the child. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #32
The right wing propagandists are out in full force. PM Martin Jan 2014 #33
The propagandists are wrong, in this case. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #34
kick PM Martin Jan 2014 #36
Liberals won't stick up for their own, they should never allow themselves to be pitted Raine Jan 2014 #39
Agreed. Vashta Nerada Jan 2014 #41
I have a hard time regarding Politico as a credible source for anything MrScorpio Jan 2014 #35
Depends on whether they want to fire her for laughing over what her guest said Lifelong Dem Jan 2014 #37
why ? because she hates black people ? JI7 Jan 2014 #40
I don't think so. She's not a firebrand and is unique. nolabear Jan 2014 #42
Harriss-Perry said nothing, a guest did. Also incorrect is your claim that Bashir was Bluenorthwest Jan 2014 #47
i hope not Liberal_in_LA Jan 2014 #50
Am I the only one who thinks what she said wasn't all that bad? bonzaga Jan 2014 #53
MSNBC MFM008 Jan 2014 #55
I certainly hope not! onpatrol98 Jan 2014 #56
I think so, Mitt has a lot of economic clout,. It's up to Mitt. CK_John Jan 2014 #59
Romney will be on Fox this Sunday and is expected to address this issue Gothmog Jan 2014 #60
MHP was in tears when she made an on air apology Gothmog Jan 2014 #61
I was glad that Romney accepted MHP's apology Gothmog Jan 2014 #62

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
3. Donahue got fired for having the highest ratings on his network
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 09:48 PM
Dec 2013

Seems to me they can fire someone for anything at all.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
8. Eh, if you didn't delete them when Donahue was fired it's a little late to do so now
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 09:53 PM
Dec 2013

Cat out of the bag, water under the bridge and closing the barn door after the cattle are gone so to speak.



Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
7. While the comment was out of line and she was right to apologize...
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 09:52 PM
Dec 2013

I wish someone would finally call out the Republicans on their hypocrisy for once. They are so outraged over the comments made on MSNBC, but if anyone calls out racism anywhere else they are always the first to start screaming about "political correctness". If they are so opposed to "political corectness" anytime anyone else points out racism then they should defend Harris Perry just like they would defend the others. The right-wing loves to pretend that racism is not an issue, the media needs to stop letting them claim racism is not an issue if they are going to keep insisting they are victims of racism in the next breath.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
18. Thanks, I edited my subject line to say the comment rather than her comment.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:21 PM
Dec 2013

The main point I was making still holds despite that distinction however.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
22. Um no....maybe the guest.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:38 PM
Dec 2013

but MHP apologized for it just the same. But as someone else pointed out...MHP doesn't shy from racial issues. Most of what she does IS about racial issues.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
45. Seriously, I don't know what you think is wrong with my post
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 08:54 AM
Jan 2014

It was centered on the Republican reaction rather than anything said by Harris Perry's guest.

Bjorn Against

(12,041 posts)
46. If it is my subject line you disagree with let me just say this...
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 11:09 AM
Jan 2014

When I say the comment was out of line and she was right to apologize for it, I am not suggesting the comment was in any way vitriolic or that it was made with bad intent. The reason I think it was out of line is it involved a child who has no say in anything, I don't think the person making the comment intended any harm towards the child I just think the comment was insensitive and deserved an apology. I don't think anyone deserves to be fired over it.

My main point however was that the Republicans expressing outrage over this are total hypocrites because they will consistently excuse acts of blatant racism and accuse anyone who points out racism as political correctness and playing the race card. Today however the same right-wingers who constantly excuse racism are acting as if they are the victims of racism, it is pure hypocrisy and that was my point.

I still don't know if this addresses the issue you have with my post or not because quite frankly I don't know what specifically you are disagreeing with me on and your facepalm emoticon does nothing to tell me what your actual disagreement is, if I have not addressed the issue you have with my post then please tell me what the issue is so I can address it.

 

civillawyer

(55 posts)
43. If anyone should be in trouble...
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 02:05 AM
Jan 2014

it should be the person that thought that running with that pic was a good idea. So many other pics and things to ding people on the past year--just too risky with little reward. Still, no one should lose their job over that.

Vincardog

(20,234 posts)
57. The comment was not out of line. The GOP does have to work real hard to find ONE black person
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 06:49 PM
Jan 2014

to point at to prove who inclusive they are.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
9. Nnnnnnope.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 09:54 PM
Dec 2013

While the segment may have been classless, her apology was unqualified and sincere. No "Sorry IF I offended..." bullshit like you see so often, which is a smarmy way of making people believe you're being contrite.

End of story.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
11. Bashir gave a sincere apology too, then he "resigned" a few days later. If they keep yelling and
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:04 PM
Dec 2013

screaming about this, she's gone.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
23. A chorus of some on the Left seem to be adding to the signal noise.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:40 PM
Dec 2013

Some who say they are Left but never seem to get enough issues to "pile on" about whatever phony outrage the rightwingers are on about Democrats this week.

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
58. I also believe Bashir's apology was sincere.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 06:49 PM
Jan 2014

I also believe Bashir's apology was sincere. His comments surprised me. It was almost like he was trying to get the boot. Taking Sarah Palin down a notch, should have been child's play for a guy like Bashir. So, I was surprised at the risk he was willing to take. I'm looking to see what he does next. I know he probably has some kind of contract that says he can't do similar work for a minute or something like that. But, it will be interesting to see where he lands. Maybe he just wanted out of his contract with MSNBC and needed a way out.

 

Chakab

(1,727 posts)
10. Probably. If the Right yells loud enough about something that a person on the left has said, the
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:03 PM
Dec 2013

Liberal is toast. There are plenty of people on DU who've been roped in by the phony outrage. Of course, that's what usually happens when the Right is outraged. There are always hand-wringing "Liberals" who side with the Wingnuts.

rurallib

(62,411 posts)
16. maybe FSTV will give some of these folks a megaphone
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:10 PM
Dec 2013

FSTV probably can't pay them but maybe they could have exposure.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
17. Really
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:18 PM
Dec 2013

sometimes I wonder if the whole modus operandi of even having MSNBC is having a place to publicy butcher leftists while shining a light on Morning Joe. At this rate I half expect Rachel Maddow to come on set with a cigarette and a blindfold one day

kimbutgar

(21,137 posts)
19. The liberals always back down to the right wingers
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:23 PM
Dec 2013

Melissa is history. In this country you don't attack conservatives and live another day. It's a damn shame the show was a funny one and I didn't find the segment offensive. But they've been gunning for her for awhile. It is the duck shit dynasty payback and she is the sacrificial lamb. MSNBC are so pussies.

 

VanillaRhapsody

(21,115 posts)
25. because alot of "liberals" never seem to miss any opportunity to
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:42 PM
Dec 2013

bash other Liberals...it seems to be what they do...

Raine

(30,540 posts)
38. That's true, liberals don't stick up for their own the way conservatives do. Liberals usually
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:43 AM
Jan 2014

dump on their own right away.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
51. It's the price we pay for trying to be "above it all"
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 04:43 PM
Jan 2014

Saying things like "Impeachment is off the table" and the like, when we know the Rethugs would NEVER say the same....

I'm done being the "bigger person". Right wingers need to be kicked in the nuts and told "No, we won't apologize. Fuck you, racist assholes." like they do all the time.

Archaic

(273 posts)
27. She's toast.
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:52 PM
Dec 2013

She doesn't pull in the ratings required to keep her.

She could have slapped a baby in the mouth and kept her job if they pulled 3 million viewers a night.

That is all that matters to Comcast. That is all that matters to any other media conglomerate.

elfin

(6,262 posts)
28. Probably, given the track record of firing after abject apologies
Tue Dec 31, 2013, 10:54 PM
Dec 2013

Stupid of her to do that, but may be at directive to be more like Pox, but opposite. Just don't cross the "line", wherever that might be according to public "outrage."

Used to have MSNBC on a lot. Now have no "go to" station at all. Check in with Tweety until he goes manic, check in with Rachel often, but not always.

Do switch between them and CNN during spiking horrific events that I learn of via internet alerts.

Martin was my fave. O'Donnell a bit too late, conflicting with other programs I like on network such as Elementary.

Now TV off or on old movies or music in the background when local Public Radio doesn't grab me.

PM Martin

(2,660 posts)
33. The right wing propagandists are out in full force.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 12:29 AM
Jan 2014

Others on the network lost their jobs after the right went after them. Which is why I said the network is NOT liberal.

 

Vashta Nerada

(3,922 posts)
34. The propagandists are wrong, in this case.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 12:47 AM
Jan 2014

It's interesting that the RW propagandists always get their way (eg. Phil Robertson) while the liberals don't.

Sickening.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
39. Liberals won't stick up for their own, they should never allow themselves to be pitted
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:49 AM
Jan 2014

against eash other.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
40. why ? because she hates black people ?
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:54 AM
Jan 2014

what a fucked up place we are in when some piece of shit who gets paid millions to put on some act and spew anti gay and racist shit is seen as a victim .

and a black woman who has a show and some comedians made a joke about republicans lack of diversity on it and she is viewed as some horrible person who hates black kids.

fuck the republicans.

and fuck the romneys also if they think a piece of shit who think jim crow was so great for blacks is something to defend .

nolabear

(41,960 posts)
42. I don't think so. She's not a firebrand and is unique.
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:58 AM
Jan 2014

Melissa plays heavily toward African Americans and women, and we're an important demographic. She's smart and this is an aberration. I think she'll stay. If I was her I'd lean into it and bring the whole topic up for discussion, and try to engage both sides. It would be amazing television.

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
47. Harriss-Perry said nothing, a guest did. Also incorrect is your claim that Bashir was
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 01:00 PM
Jan 2014

fired for reasons similar to Donahue and Olbermann, neither of whom said anything about anyone that was cause of the end of their shows, to claim that they said something similiar to what Bashir said is unfair to both men, to imply that Harris-Perry said something similar is unfair to her.
Bashir stands alone as having been the victim of his own poorly chosen imagery. Not the first time for Martin either.

 

bonzaga

(48 posts)
53. Am I the only one who thinks what she said wasn't all that bad?
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 05:27 PM
Jan 2014

It was a little bit in poor taste, but I think this "outrage" is nothing more than another witch hunt against yet another liberal voice in the media. Why is it always the liberals that get fired for saying something?

MFM008

(19,808 posts)
55. MSNBC
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 06:32 PM
Jan 2014

If you have anyone trolling the internet, If you do were finished with you period. Enough is enough dammit. Keith, Cenk, Martin,. Do it fire a brilliant woman of color after 2 men of color being farmed out. While the inbreds over on A&E prosper. F*CK you MSNBC.

onpatrol98

(1,989 posts)
56. I certainly hope not!
Wed Jan 1, 2014, 06:44 PM
Jan 2014

Nope, I don't believe MHP will be fired. The story has already died down, which is good.

Gothmog

(145,168 posts)
60. Romney will be on Fox this Sunday and is expected to address this issue
Fri Jan 3, 2014, 05:42 PM
Jan 2014
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/mitt-romney-melissa-harris-perry-grandson-kieran-fox-news-sunday

Mitt Romney has been booked to appear on "Fox News Sunday" this weekend, and he'll likely use the platform to address a controversy surrounding his adopted black grandson.

As the Hollywood Reporter noted, it's probably no coincidence that Romney — long reluctant to sit down for interviews — agreed to appear on Fox after a week in which MSNBC host Melissa Harris-Perry took a ton of heat for an on-air that made light of the 2012 GOP presidential nominee's grandson, Kieran.

According to Mediaite, Romney is expected to address the controversy.


I seriously doubt that Romney will be nice to MHP
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