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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWow! Check out this photo from space of Europe celebrating The New Year last night:
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Cool!
Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)I wouldn't have expected to see so much lighting in the north of the country. Learn something every day, yunno.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)so maybe the light are on all the time.
Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)Still, it was surprising to me that enough people lived in that region of the country to justify that much illumination. Notice that on the west side of the border, in Norway, are vast areas without illumination, which to me indicates low-density population.
Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Those dark areas may be in Sweden...
Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)although on Google Earth I found little in the way of population centers where all those lights appear
Perhaps it's mining and/or foresting operations?
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)Cirque du So-What
For the most part - the area in Norway who border to Sweden, is for the most part just desolate mountain ranges - and some roads - and nothing more - It is at the coast Norwegian lives for the most part - or at the central areas at the South end of Norway - It goes all the back to 1814, when we managed to make a de-militarized area between Sweden and Norway - where no forts and military installations was to be build - in the two centuries after that - the border between Sweden and Norway was kind of like a "dead mans land" where most would not travel - but then again - it was also a rather poor place to begin with - with less possibility to farm, as the earth was rather bad to farming - and for the most part, it was timber who gave people some job..
But - as an oversight in history - the military demilitarize zone - between Sweden and Norway - was in fact still demilitarized as late as 1993 - Sweden and Norway had in fact no Peace treaty after the war of 1814. even though we had been peacefully nabours since 1814.... In 1993, a deal was struck between Sweden and Norway - and we finally accepted the border between Sweden and Norway - even as the border had been the same, more or less since 1660...
Dicloican
Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)The poor land was partially responsible for some of my Nordic ancestors' emigration to the New World in the mid-1600s.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)Cirque du So-What
Indeed - many emigrated to the americans, from Norway from the mid 1600s and forward - to a better life in the british colonies - later it was USA...
Diclotican
Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)were from Sweden. The patriarch was actually born in Finland and emigrated to Sweden in his youth. Later he emigrated to a colony called New Sweden, which includes parts of present-day Pennsylvania, New Jersey & Delaware. Along the way, he changed his name from the Finnish Marttinen to the more Swedish-sounding Mårtenson. His descendants, for some reason, changed the name again to the Anglicized Morton.
Diclotican
(5,095 posts)Cirque du So-What
I see - well many who was born in Finland - had to emigrate to Sweden - for many reasons - one of them was maybe that Sweden sounded like a better place to live - in the 1600-1700s Finland was know for one thing - being raped and pillaged by the russians - and the population to be used as cannon fodder for the Swedish Army and Navy - many of the soldiers who ended up abroad for decades was finish in origin - and was used to make Sweden was it was - a nordic Superpower .
New Sweden was an ambitious attempt for the swedish crown - to build up a colony in the new parts - of course it was never that much of a colony, like the big players had - but at least they had a colony - and had ambitions to send many more to the colony - to make sure the Swedish Crown would earn back what ever they had used to build the colonies....
Many changed their last name - from a finish sounded name - to a more swedish one - mostly because it sounded better with the authorities - and maybe because he wanted to change his past - and his future in the prosess.... Many emigrants who traveled to the Colonies - that be swedish or Norwegians - changed name to a more Anglicized name after a while - mostly because it was more easy to fit in in the new world that way... It is a few last names - that is rather difficult for english speaking people to twist their tongue around - like my first name - who I have yet to get americans to state properly - usually I use my middle name - as it is more easy for them to understand.... My first name - have a twist - as it is written with an O - but sounds like an Å, something that often confuse english speaking people greatly...
Diclotican
Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)my grandfather-many-times-over, contributed an important descendant to American history:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Morton_%28politician%29
who is my great-uncle-many-times-over.
mimi85
(1,805 posts)and came over back when...to settle in North Dakota. SO glad my great grandmother had the presence of mine to eventually move to California in the 1950s. I'll never forget when very young, a distant cousin came to visit. He had never seen an ocean and I still remember the look on his face - pure wonder.
Watching the Rose Bowl today thinking that with all the things that are wrong with California, the weather isn't one of them.
Great picture!
GreenEyedLefty
(2,073 posts)My great-grandparents came here from Finland... they came from Kemi, which is in Lapland near the border between Finland and Sweden. My great-grandmother's maiden name was Wickstrom, which is Swedish. I've always wondered how that came to be.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)It was raining in lots of areas in Europe last night...how would you get all of this light with so much cloud cover??
Cirque du So-What
(25,932 posts)It's probably some sort of composite photo.
titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)NYE doesn't make any difference. I'd bet that about the same amount of energy is used no mater what day of the year. So OK maybe it is a little later on NYE (due to a late night event) but nonetheless it probably isn't a big difference.
Curmudgeoness
(18,219 posts)My first thought was "what would a normal night look like from space?" Without a comparison, I have no way to know whether I should be impressed.
jellen
(312 posts)Laelth
(32,017 posts)-Laelth
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,611 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)This is a compilation (and an old one, at that) of photos of Europe at night.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)There's something odd about it because that area covers 3 maybe 4 different times zones. .
2naSalit
(86,579 posts)WOW!
Kablooie
(18,632 posts)Isn't it supposed to be green?
surrealAmerican
(11,360 posts)Do they use a different type of street lighting or something?
... also was it really clear skies everywhere in Europe last night? That's pretty cool.
hunter
(38,311 posts)red - low pressure sodium, lowest electric cost, occasionally installed to reduce interference with optical astronomy installations
orange - high pressure sodium.
blue - mercury vapor lighting
yellow, in less "modern" places - mix of incandescent, sodium, and mercury vapor
yelow, "modern" places - mix of high pressure sodium, metal halide, and recently, LED.
I've lived through every generation of lighting. When I was a kid the streetlights were incandescent. Later they were mercury vapor. Then our family moved to a place with low pressure sodium lighting. When we returned to the U.S. the streetlights had been replaced with high pressure sodium. Then big box store parking lots started installing "white" metal halide lighting. Our city is gradually upgrading to LED lighting but the annoying streetlight in front of our house is still the orange high pressure sodium.
George II
(67,782 posts)lpbk2713
(42,757 posts)blackspade
(10,056 posts)See all the lights between Norway and Britain? Oil rigs.
I would have wanted to be in northern Scotland like I was the week my wife I married 18 years ago.
The sky was what was bright.
Cool photo though.
NBachers
(17,108 posts)There was so much noise and interference there, we couldn't really communicate. I'm glad to hear that he was out and enjoying himself. Sounded like a lot of people were out and celebrating.
blackspade
(10,056 posts)My wife and I went to a great local New Years Eve party in Balquhidder.
Great booze and better conversation.
RedCappedBandit
(5,514 posts)Thor_MN
(11,843 posts)Look between the UK and Norway.
malaise
(268,968 posts)Happy New Year Grits
HipChick
(25,485 posts)With all the different time zones the different countries in Europe uses...they would not all be celebrating at the same time though
Lucky Luciano
(11,254 posts)happen in Europe all at one time!
HipChick
(25,485 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)5 p.m. and it's dark.
iamthebandfanman
(8,127 posts)there are tons of 'at night from space' photos on the internet...
all of which I find very enjoyable
mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)Fantastic! Everything seems so close.
calimary
(81,238 posts)I love it! Gorgeous! Happy New Year!!!
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)ffr
(22,669 posts)That "what is progress" question haunts me.
treestar
(82,383 posts)really like to party!
Cool pic!
Android3.14
(5,402 posts)I freaking despise breathless-I'm-creaming-in-my-faux-sentimental-panties. It's this crap that demonstrates why we the people will never-ever-ever be in charge of our own lives.
It's right up there with, "I'm crying as I type this..."
nytemare
(10,888 posts)TroglodyteScholar
(5,477 posts)Thanks for the links
anneboleyn
(5,611 posts)Big bright spot in upper right...
Beartracks
(12,809 posts)"Europe at night, 1993-2003 changes"
http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/160004/view
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MFM008
(19,808 posts)Response to Are_grits_groceries (Original post)
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Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)quadrature
(2,049 posts)bvar22
(39,909 posts)...always scare me a little.
This kind of consumption is directly killing us all.
How many powerplants could we mothball by simply turning off every 3rd light?
How much more time could we buy for the Human Race by turning off every other light?
It is supposed to get dark when the Sun goes down..
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/soapbox
Party On!
heaven05
(18,124 posts)of human habitation and celebratory hope. The gunfire I had to listen to is always an anger maker in me. It borders on ignorance with me. What goes up must come down. The tag line cats always make me laugh.
Jamaal510
(10,893 posts)Kaleva
(36,298 posts)NYC_SKP
(68,644 posts)It's a great shot from space.
It might even have been taken on New Years Eve.
And that would be about it.
Happy New Year!
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)that could be fitted together. I would make them into a mural.
Kaleva
(36,298 posts)The meaning of the color of the lights:
"Caption: Europe at night, showing the change in illumination from 1993-2003. This data is based on satellite observations. Lights are colour-coded. Red lights appeared during that period. Orange and yellow areas are regions of high and low intensity lighting respectively that increased in brightness over the ten years. Grey areas are unchanged. Pale blue and dark blue areas are of low and high intensity lighting that decreased in brightness. Very dark blue areas were present in 1993 and had disappeared by 2003. Much of western and central Europe has brightened considerably. Some North Sea gas fields closed in the period."
http://www.sciencephoto.com/media/160004/view
proReality
(1,628 posts)But the one I never get tired of is your cat doing the bean bag face plant. It cracks me up every time I see it.
WCGreen
(45,558 posts)oldandhappy
(6,719 posts)Nice night shot tho.