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Is this a first?
Cars being banned on the streets in one state - this is some fugged up cold weather.
Stay safe and warm DUers
LeftofObama
(4,243 posts)Hope you get a flight
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)is stock in Dayton OH when there's too much snow an ice and doubtless other places too.
malaise
(268,963 posts)Indianapolis. Greg Ballard, mayor of Indianas capital city Indianapolis, has banned the movement of vehicles on the account of heavy snowfall, ITAR-TASS reported.
Mr Ballard stated driving vehicles in a winter storm and extremely low temperatures was dangerous.
The temperature in Indianapolis is about - 28°C.
Snowplows, ambulances, police cars, fire trucks and other rescue vehicles are the only vehicles the movement of which has not been banned.
Those who violate the ban will be arrested.
Gormy Cuss
(30,884 posts)Keep the cars off the road so that the plows can get through, also sometimes used ahead of a storm to avoid the problem of cars stuck in drifts everywhere (the latter being the reason the Boston Blizzard of '78 kept roads closed for days.)
Shandris
(3,447 posts)...several long years ago, we had a similar situation declared in the county.
And work refused to close still, telling us we'd be fired if we didn't show up. Your choice, get arrested or get fired. One of the managers had the -audacity- to point out that there was no law against -snowmobiles-, so I should just go find one (!).
Never liked that job anyways.
malaise
(268,963 posts)Damn
madinmaryland
(64,931 posts)I'm in Kettering. School closed again tomorrow.
dipsydoodle
(42,239 posts)I'm in the UK but I do have friends in Dayton. I knew about traffic clearance from the roads for safety reasons because one my friends completely ignored the instruction when she needed to get her daughter to the hospital urgently. The police soon stopped her and given the explanation they escorted her there.
Stay safe.
FarPoint
(12,351 posts)Client visit.....not sure how things will go since he lives off a gravel road.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)but on the down side, we will have a problem with water. Nope, stay where they are.
malaise
(268,963 posts)How can California get some of this snow to assist with the water problem?
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)they talked of a water system to bring it from the Great Lakes to the South West
http://www.wbur.org/npr/17354828
Nothing like this has been talked off in a few years, and I doubt it will come to anything.
Now this bears repeating, we are seeing more extreme weather, due to climactic change. Areas of Mexico where it never rains in the winter are facing floods, for example. That is weather, but it is part of the pattern of what is quickly becoming the new normal.
longship
(40,416 posts)It's bad enough what the Chicago River had been doing to Lake Michigan. If you guys in the southwest want water, get it from the ocean. I understand that it's a bit closer than our lakes.
Earth_First
(14,910 posts)What happened to the United States of America
longship
(40,416 posts)Currently residing in the midst of the Manistee National Forest... That's in western rural Michigan, about 50 miles from beautiful Lake Michigan.
So, yes. Our lakes. Not property of the southwest USA. Oh, and BTW, four of the five Great Lakes form an international border, so our very good neighbors to the north might have a say on the matter.
Sorry, my friend. Us Michiganders take these things pretty damned seriously.
I hope everything's well with you.
As always,
Best regards.
hedgehog
(36,286 posts)Water is a finite resource, and removing large amounts from the Great Lakes basin would have some nasty effects.
Ask the people who live on the Aral Sea what they think of the issue:
malaise
(268,963 posts)and water wars are everywhere.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)indeed.
But then you have the more "cost conscious" pols tied to the downtown multiple mafias.
It is an issue that will come to a head in ten years I suspect.
As to the great lakes, they have their issues, and they are serious, but I thought we were a country. My mistake, will not confuse that again.
longship
(40,416 posts)But you're wrong about the Great Lakes belonging to people in the USA.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)and my mistake. Will not make it again.
(For the record, it is not the only source of water that is shared across borders).
And yes, these neo regionalisms are starting to show up increasingly all over the country, and they are NOT a good sign.
longship
(40,416 posts)So I know what you're talking about.
But the Great Lakes are not going to be negotiable, ever. Canada would never allow it. Nor would Michigan.
Sorry! If the SW wants water, they'll have to find it someplace else. They can fight the water war with somebody else.
.......
My favorite place to visit it SoCal was San Diego, certainly one of the most beautiful cities on the planet.
Please send some warmth up here for us.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)trust me, we have it here as well, and I note that it is dangerous. I would not mind sending some heat, in exchange for that water.
As I said, it will come to a head... ten years at most.
longship
(40,416 posts)We're not talking mere regionalism when the Great Lakes are concerned. Without an international treaty, any plan is a non-starter.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)there was talk of a treaty. No matter, we lack imagination and the cost of it will be down right down prohibitive. I could not see Issa voting for it, and damn it, he'd benefit. We need to keep the deficit down, doncha know?
But seriously, I have noticed that rise of neo regionalisms, and not just in your neck of the woods. And that is dangerous in it's own way.
MADem
(135,425 posts)I do think desalinization is the way to go--they are building a plant in San Diego county for just this purpose. Perhaps they need to build a few more...?
Brickbat
(19,339 posts)That's one bit of "infrastructure" this country doesn't need.
Texasgal
(17,045 posts)Supposed to get into the 20's tonight! The pipes are wrapped and a fire is in the fireplace! Veggie soup on the stove, hot tea in the kuerig! we are ready!
I hope everyone stays warm too!
malaise
(268,963 posts)Stay warm
longship
(40,416 posts)I am going to rustle up some slow cooker beef barley (from scratch, with whole barley, not instant). Will eat a bunch and freeze the rest.
Yummy to the tummy.
Stay warm. It's -5F here in west Michigan. Not too bad for January as things typically go. I've known -20F a few times.
I've got my long johns on.
Texasgal
(17,045 posts)minus anything sounds dreadful!
Keep warm! Barley soup sounds so good!
longship
(40,416 posts)Your temps are not.
Whine away, my friend. You're allowed. And have another bowl of hot soup. Homemade is best.
Or try my recipe for hot chocolate:
Cocoa powder (unsweetened)
Sugar
Milk
Condensed (evaporated) milk
Vanilla extract
Brandy (or bourbon)
Or, Big marshmallows.
For each cup to be served: Mix one heaping teaspoon cocoa and one heaping teaspoon of sugar together dry in the bottom of a sauce pan.
Add enough hot water and a dash of vanilla to mix into a syrup (hot tap is okay).
Put on stove on low heat and, stirring constantly, bring to a gentle boil.
Immediately add milk and evaporated milk in equal proportions. Bring to near boiling point, but try not to scald (not essential, and probably impossible).
Pour over marshmallows and serve immediately. Substitute brandy or bourbon for the marshmallows, as per preference.
Optional: use bourbon or brandy and top with whipped cream.
The secret is the condensed milk. It makes it rich. This is not kids' sweet cocoa.
My grandmother made it. (She emigrated from Finland in 190x.) She taught my mother. My mother taught me.
Texasgal
(17,045 posts)I must try!
Thanks for the recipe! I like that bourbon is part of it!
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)I can only imagine what the wind chill factor is. We have a foot (or more) of snow on the ground.
The only thing I am thinking right now is how grateful I am I have a warm house and lots of good food. I am fortunate.
(I would like to be where you are for a few days, though)
malaise
(268,963 posts)they have no power. That must be frightening in this cold.
etherealtruth
(22,165 posts)CTyankee
(63,911 posts)it's a real roll of the dice, IMO...
I'll stay home, thanks....
malaise
(268,963 posts)It's less than $30 and they pay for the hotel etc. Still the dislocation can be unsettling.
CTyankee
(63,911 posts)passport was stolen...luckiy, I had insurance and all went well, altho it meant a detour off my trip...
malaise
(268,963 posts)I avoid coming north in winter.
CTyankee
(63,911 posts)It should be OK but there may be a slushy snow while I'm gone...hopefully, gone when I get back (a couple of weeks later!)...
malaise
(268,963 posts)Who knows - we may have summer temperatures in March.
CTyankee
(63,911 posts)Florence...ahhh, I wake up in Italia...la vita e bella...
malaise
(268,963 posts)Wonderful.
CTyankee
(63,911 posts)15th century Italian artist in his eastern Tuscany location....the churches and museum repositories of his art, little medieval towns such as Anghiari, Monterchi, San Sepolcro...and Arezzo...me and a little group of art nut jobs like me who buy stout shoes and gear up for such a strange adventure that nobody else understands...LOL...
malaise
(268,963 posts)I will flunk
Have a ball.
CTyankee
(63,911 posts)Thanks for the good wishes! Love ya!
liberal N proud
(60,334 posts)It's colder than a proverbial sorceress mammary glands in the deepest darkest depths of purgatory.
malaise
(268,963 posts)Brickbat
(19,339 posts)malaise
(268,963 posts)May have been both days and I suspect way more flights were cancelled.