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Oscarmonster13

(209 posts)
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 10:36 PM Jan 2014

So...the cops are after someone on my street...

Had three sheriffs there this afternoon, banging on the door as I was leaving to pick up my daughter. Decided it would be best to stay away for a while so we went to the store and bopped around. Got home to see a sheriff parked out on the main drag watching my street...

At about 4:30, up rolls four sheriff vehicles, blocking off my driveway, the one across the street, one blocking the way from the house to the meadow and another in front of the suspect's house... two are wearing vests and one had a fucking RIFLE...

I sent my kids to the back of the house to avoid gunfire, as they continue to bang on the door and eventually bust it down. (I am watching from the kitchen, listening thru the window and hiding behind the cupboards.)
No gunfire, but they were in the house for a good 30 mins, taking pics...two more officers rolled up, one plainclothes sheriff with a vest on, and a city cop... then they put the door back together and left.

I walked out and asked if they needed anything, they said to call them when he got home. I actually think the guy just rolled up...just called 911...shit....we'll see if anything happens...

it's a weird world. I thought the guy was just a stupid stoner/skater...can't be dealing, there's never any people at the house wonder what they are after him for?

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So...the cops are after someone on my street... (Original Post) Oscarmonster13 Jan 2014 OP
I wouldn't have called them. Th1onein Jan 2014 #1
For pot, probably not Warpy Jan 2014 #2
can't be a grow, unless he's got good air filters Oscarmonster13 Jan 2014 #5
Ew. He's an asshole. Call. Warpy Jan 2014 #6
poor dog. hope the cops dont shoot the dog Liberal_in_LA Jan 2014 #16
usually I am wary of cops... Oscarmonster13 Jan 2014 #3
Well, I live in Texas. ALL cops here are macho asses. Th1onein Jan 2014 #7
Yeah, they're macho asses until you need them. catbyte Jan 2014 #9
Cops should NEVER abuse their power..... Logical Jan 2014 #12
I give as good as I get. Th1onein Jan 2014 #13
That's interesting because every time I've needed them, they were useless and still assholes Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #20
Don't pull that crap with me. Let's just disband all police forces & take the law into catbyte Jan 2014 #22
Uh yeah, right. never an answer. Tell you what, I know the criminals in my neighborhood and Egalitarian Thug Jan 2014 #24
I have two brothers who are cops. Jenoch Jan 2014 #26
The problem is, though, that there are plenty of bad cops. Th1onein Jan 2014 #44
And they're macho asses when you need them, too. Iggo Jan 2014 #34
The ones you know may in fact be. The ones I know are not.. LanternWaste Jan 2014 #42
You have no idea why this guy was wanted by law enforcement. Jenoch Jan 2014 #21
My coworker got busted for Marijuana. minivan2 Jan 2014 #29
That happened right in front of my house once after a shooting a block away. LumosMaxima Jan 2014 #4
just called dispatch again Oscarmonster13 Jan 2014 #8
Good luck, Oscarmonster13! Hope it's over soon. n/t pnwmom Jan 2014 #10
soundslike they had a warrant to search... if he was charles manson they'd be dionysus Jan 2014 #15
ya, but with vests and rifles and the whole shebang? Oscarmonster13 Jan 2014 #17
What else is there for a SWAT team to do? NutmegYankee Jan 2014 #25
I would not assume the reason for which the cops were after the guy on your street. Jenoch Jan 2014 #28
The cops like to play with their toys. Mariana Jan 2014 #36
Not to be a grammar cop, but Calvary might not Jenoch Jan 2014 #27
This happened in my neighborhood about 10 years ago... for weed. ScreamingMeemie Jan 2014 #11
Had a whole swarm of cops descend on my neighborhood with guns to arrest my neighbor's teen boy. Vattel Jan 2014 #14
It's fun to raid houses and neighborhoods Mariana Jan 2014 #37
Had a swat team in my neighborhood last year Liberty Belle Jan 2014 #18
welp, i guess the saga continues... Oscarmonster13 Jan 2014 #19
That's probably because he knew someone busted his door down firsttimer Jan 2014 #23
it must have just been the mechanism or somehting... Oscarmonster13 Jan 2014 #33
Or checking to see what got stolen. Mariana Jan 2014 #38
I find it interesting, if you don't mind the observation. Savannahmann Jan 2014 #30
maybe because I beleive they are the 'good guys' to some extent Oscarmonster13 Jan 2014 #35
"they put the door back together and left" JustABozoOnThisBus Jan 2014 #31
i guess they had just busted the strikeplate/doorknob? Oscarmonster13 Jan 2014 #32
When all you have is a screwdriver, everything looks like a repair job.c LanternWaste Jan 2014 #43
"one had a fucking RIFLE!" snooper2 Jan 2014 #39
"I walked out and asked if they needed anything" ecstatic Jan 2014 #40
well duh! Oscarmonster13 Jan 2014 #45
This happened in my neighborhood once rusty fender Jan 2014 #41

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
1. I wouldn't have called them.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 10:41 PM
Jan 2014

I don't like cops. Let them do their own job. Not taking sides in the war on drugs.

Warpy

(111,255 posts)
2. For pot, probably not
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 10:45 PM
Jan 2014

If I'd smelled chemical smells on the breeze from that direction and suspected he was cooking meth or worse, you bet I'd have made the call.

Since these guys were loose about the whole thing after they photographed the inside of the house, they likely didn't find meth cooking gear or lots of weapons. He's probably got a grow lite operation in his basement.

Oscarmonster13

(209 posts)
5. can't be a grow, unless he's got good air filters
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 10:48 PM
Jan 2014

I have had grow houses near me before, and the smell is not easy to mask. Nope, it's something else. I am thinking since he was from another state, it's something that followed him...

...and he hits his dog too, so you bet I hope he gets nailed!

Oscarmonster13

(209 posts)
3. usually I am wary of cops...
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 10:46 PM
Jan 2014

BUT this guy lives on my street and my kids have even talked to him, borrowing wood for their kid-fort......I don't need this kind of riff-raff in my neighborhood. Not to mention, as a domestic violence survivor, I think a lot of cops do good work and really *do* intend to protect us. I want my kids to feel the same.

It's the assholes who fuck up protestors or who get off on powertripping at traffic stops who give them a bad name, IMO

catbyte

(34,381 posts)
9. Yeah, they're macho asses until you need them.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:12 PM
Jan 2014


I'm the daughter of a man who was a cop for 30 years. He was the most ethical, fair, compassionate man I ever met. That's a mighty wide brush with which you're painting them.
 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
12. Cops should NEVER abuse their power.....
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:18 PM
Jan 2014

I don't know your dad but I never met a cop who did not abuse their power at some time. Harass someone just to harass them. Rough up a suspect. Etc. Maybe he was one of the miracle ones who didn't.

Cops are paid to protect. Not be assholes.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
20. That's interesting because every time I've needed them, they were useless and still assholes
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 12:31 AM
Jan 2014

about it. So tell us, how many of the bad cops did your father testify against in court?

catbyte

(34,381 posts)
22. Don't pull that crap with me. Let's just disband all police forces & take the law into
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 01:57 AM
Jan 2014

our own hands, shall we? YEE HAWWWWWWW! And I don't have to justify the actions of my father to the likes of you, who was a better human being than you or I could ever hope to be.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
24. Uh yeah, right. never an answer. Tell you what, I know the criminals in my neighborhood and
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 02:15 AM
Jan 2014

I fear them far less than the cops, and this is a great improvement over LA. Like I said, every time I've had need of the police in almost 50 years they only made things worse, never resolved any issues, cost me a lot of extra money because of their involvement, and were consistently assholes about it every step of the way.

So, your sainted father cop never in 30 years saw any corruption in the department, well that’s really cool, but not that many of us can live in Mayberry.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
26. I have two brothers who are cops.
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 02:29 AM
Jan 2014

I have a cousin who is a chief of police. Another cousin is a chief deputy. Most of their calls were situations where they were there to help people, such as medical calls. One of my brothers was hassled by a chief because he did not write up enough traffic citations. Not all cops in all jurisdictions are assholes.

Th1onein

(8,514 posts)
44. The problem is, though, that there are plenty of bad cops.
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 09:05 PM
Jan 2014

And the "good" cops are not so good that they will turn in the bad ones.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
42. The ones you know may in fact be. The ones I know are not..
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 04:34 PM
Jan 2014

The ones you know may in fact be. The ones I know are not; though I have encountered the macho type often before-- mostly in El Paso and Galveston rather than Fort Worth and Dallas

However, I realize we all of us have our biases.

minivan2

(214 posts)
29. My coworker got busted for Marijuana.
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 03:00 AM
Jan 2014

We were heading back to the office and we passed by the cops. They started following us and when we go to my car I got out and they told me to stay in the car.

At this point I was thinking, "Shit, what happened, did we run a red light?"

Turns out my co-worker had Mary Jane in his trunk. I got frisked, emptied my pockets. Luckily they let both of us go, but I haven't seen my friend since.

I hope they legalize pot here in CA soon. I don't do it but it will sure help our prisons.

LumosMaxima

(585 posts)
4. That happened right in front of my house once after a shooting a block away.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 10:48 PM
Jan 2014

It was really scary. I had a dog who needed to pee, too. I did what you did -- just hid out at the back of the house until it was over.

Oscarmonster13

(209 posts)
8. just called dispatch again
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:06 PM
Jan 2014

told them the car is still there but I am afraid to go outside and my kids are uncomfortable too...she asked me if I wanted the sheriff to call me, I said "no, I just want the calvary to come and handle it!"

ready to hit the deck if things get narly out there, come ON guys....hurryup!

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
15. soundslike they had a warrant to search... if he was charles manson they'd be
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:23 PM
Jan 2014

more in a hurry to get him (if they have anything on him)

Oscarmonster13

(209 posts)
17. ya, but with vests and rifles and the whole shebang?
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:35 PM
Jan 2014

my kids are fucking freaked out, my youngest keeps telling me to call them again, cuz he's scared...

...this isn't fair to get us all riled up and freaked out just for something stupid. And I fail to believe that they would need THAT many cops in gear to just pick up a guy on a warrant... must be something worse. But we'll probably never know...

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
25. What else is there for a SWAT team to do?
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 02:15 AM
Jan 2014

They do so many drug raids to justify their existence. Overkill on a drug raid has become the norm.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
28. I would not assume the reason for which the cops were after the guy on your street.
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 02:44 AM
Jan 2014

I don't know if it will help, but you could tell your children that the guy has nothing to do with you or uour family and that the police will take care of it.

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
36. The cops like to play with their toys.
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 03:53 PM
Jan 2014

It doesn't necessarily mean your neighbor is a Really Bad Guy. Vests and rifles and whatever other goodies the cops have lying around, they'll bring them out on the slightest excuse.

 

Jenoch

(7,720 posts)
27. Not to be a grammar cop, but Calvary might not
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 02:33 AM
Jan 2014

a bad thing to think about in your situation. It is where Christ was crucified.

ScreamingMeemie

(68,918 posts)
11. This happened in my neighborhood about 10 years ago... for weed.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:18 PM
Jan 2014

DEA agents and cops shot out the lock and dragged the (mid-60s) couple (dressed in pajamas) at gunpoint out onto their well-manicured lawn.

Turns out they had a few marijuana plants. It was overkill and they lost their home. He went to jail.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
14. Had a whole swarm of cops descend on my neighborhood with guns to arrest my neighbor's teen boy.
Mon Jan 6, 2014, 11:22 PM
Jan 2014

They showed the boy a video of some drug-dealing gang members and said, "That's you right?" And he said, "No" and pointed out that the kid in the video had a big tattoo that was strangely missing from him. The cops just had the wrong kid. My neighbor's boy is not in a gang and doesn't sell. Weird to think they needed an army to arrest one kid, but I guess it is a war on drugs.

Liberty Belle

(9,535 posts)
18. Had a swat team in my neighborhood last year
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 12:08 AM
Jan 2014

For a nut job who was shooting randomly, hundreds of shots, with a high-powered rifle. We were told to stay inside with windows drawn; and stayed on the far side of the house. Very scary. He finally killed hmself, after threatening to kills cops and everyone else.

Oscarmonster13

(209 posts)
19. welp, i guess the saga continues...
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 12:25 AM
Jan 2014

the car left before the troops got here. I called and told dispatch. so there. I have done my duty...

now I just wish my kids felt safer, me too
fuck.

 

firsttimer

(324 posts)
23. That's probably because he knew someone busted his door down
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 02:08 AM
Jan 2014

You said they put it back together?

I don't think they had a carpenter with them to fix it where he didn't notice.

Oscarmonster13

(209 posts)
33. it must have just been the mechanism or somehting...
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 03:42 PM
Jan 2014

...but whoever showed up last night was there for a good hour-and-a half...cleaning up evidence?

Mariana

(14,856 posts)
38. Or checking to see what got stolen.
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 03:57 PM
Jan 2014

If YOU came home and your door had been broken in, would you assume it was cops? I wouldn't. I'd assume it was burglars.

 

Savannahmann

(3,891 posts)
30. I find it interesting, if you don't mind the observation.
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 07:01 AM
Jan 2014

But I find it interesting that you are operating under the assumption that the neighbor is guilty because the police are after him. Despite seeing no evidence of dealing, or other major crimes you are still reacting like many people who believe that the police are there to help. In all honesty, I usually react the other way after seeing the police persecute too many innocents.

My rules are simple. If they want him, let them find him. I don't know shit. When I see the police making an arrest, I don't assume that the guy is guilty and the cops just saved someone. I assume that the guy is at most accused, but usually innocent, and the cops are fucking with him because he flipped them the bird, or he just happened to be near a crime that happened, and thus guilty by their convoluted logic.

Hell, knowing the way that the cops over-react to anything, your neighbor probably hasn't paid his student loans.

#t=13

Oscarmonster13

(209 posts)
35. maybe because I beleive they are the 'good guys' to some extent
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 03:49 PM
Jan 2014

Like I said before, I've been protected by the cops in the past and have generally had good reason to trust them. I've had boyfriends who have had trouble with the law and I am glad I was never on that side of the exchange, for sure.

Yes, I admit, these events have shaded my opinion of him...even more so since he has talked with the kids on the street(including mine), and that makes me feel more protective and wary. My daughter is the one who never really liked him, because we'd seen him hit his dog on more than one occasion and wanted to call animal services ...but we never had any way to prove it, didn't know what to say...

But in the end, I guess he's the one that has to worry about the cops, oh well.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,339 posts)
31. "they put the door back together and left"
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 07:37 AM
Jan 2014

Those cops must be pretty handy, to repair a kicked-in door ...

"good as new, no need to sue"

Oscarmonster13

(209 posts)
32. i guess they had just busted the strikeplate/doorknob?
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 03:40 PM
Jan 2014

I didn't go over there to look, but if all it took was a screwdriver, that must have been it.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
43. When all you have is a screwdriver, everything looks like a repair job.c
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 04:37 PM
Jan 2014

When all you have is a screwdriver, everything looks like a repair job.

ecstatic

(32,701 posts)
40. "I walked out and asked if they needed anything"
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 04:05 PM
Jan 2014

That's the last thing I would have done, considering the men were armed and had a lot of adrenaline pumping. I'm surprised they didn't yell for you to go back inside.

Oscarmonster13

(209 posts)
45. well duh!
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 09:10 PM
Jan 2014

I didn't go out there when they had their guns drawn! it was as the last two were getting in their cars and leaving, very casually...

 

rusty fender

(3,428 posts)
41. This happened in my neighborhood once
Tue Jan 7, 2014, 04:16 PM
Jan 2014

but no SWAT, just helicopters and and police cars. The helicopters were buzzing the houses. I called the sheriff's dept. to find out what was going on. The dispatcher told me to stay indoors because they were pursuing very dangerous criminals.

After about an hour or so, the helicopters flew away. All that time I thought that the police were pursuing armed murderers, right? Because you wouldn't waste resources like that on routine criminals, right?

Later that night on the the local tv news it was reported that the dangerous criminals had written a bad check. Yup, all that for a bad check.

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