Rendell on Hilliary: Americans want somebody who can reach across the aisle.

[ZX86]

Go fuck yourself! I am so tired of disingenuous assholes (especially Democratic ones) talking about what the American people want when it's obvious they are corporate whores who want nothing more than to serve their corporate masters.

[TwilightGardener]

1. OMG. Just....no.

[JVS]

2. What kind of crack is Rendell smoking? Republicans hated her back in the 90s and still do.

[kelliekat44]

22. And here I thought Obama was hated by Dems because he reached out too much to the GOP? nt

[arcane1]

3. The aisle can bite me.

That was one of the things that pissed me off with Obama once he was sworn in: the excessive talk about wanting everything to be "bipartisan".

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

56. That will only change if the American people and the Corporate Media change the double standard.

American people never hold the Republicans accountable for failing to govern. They expect Democrats to. Democrats are expected to be bipartisan, to compromise. Even when you poll mainstream Democrats, most want bipartisanship. It's like we're conditioned to be overly fucking cordial and diplomatic with these assholes. Republicans are never held to that standard.

So blame Obama all you want. This disease of compromise and bipartisanship is not just afflicted on Obama; the entire Democratic Party Establishment is afflicted with it, as is the entire mainstream Democratic voting public.

Until American voters stop expecting Democrats to act nice and hold Republicans accountable for being destructive, things will never change. We'll continue to get charlatans like Ed Rendell and Harold Ford, Jr. representing us in the Democratic Party.

[arcane1]

65. "The entire Democratic Party Establishment is afflicted with it"

Amen!

[ZX86]

4. When Democrats win we're supposed to compromise.

When Republicans win we're supposed to honor the mandate.

I am so sick of this!

[PeteSelman]

5. Rendell is total third way, DLC or whatever they call Republicans in our party.

He's just a dick. Seriously.

[Samantha]

14. He also belongs to Fix the Debt

He has always been a Trojan horse. Just changes his saddle from time to time.

Sam

[Enthusiast]

42. Yes. He has always been a Trojan Horse.

We need to make this clear until MSNBC quits including him on their programs. We simply do not buy into his bullshit.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

58. But that's what I'm not understanding about all these pro-Hillary threads and pro-Hillary liberals.

Do we not understand that Ed Rendell was probably her biggest cheerleader, apart from Geraldine Ferraro (RIP) in 2008? And Ed Rendell is the quinessential DLCer. And the only reason he's on these shows is because we all can be assured of one thing: he'll bash Obama every chance he gets.

[Autumn]

6. So do I. I want someone who will reach across the aisle

and slap the shit out of those fucking idiot pukes, every time they open their sorry mouths to say what the American people want. And while we are discussing what we want, I want someone who will slap a few blue dogs too

[Scuba]

40. +8,749

[Enthusiast]

43. "I want someone who will slap a few blue dogs too." Me too!

[mindwalker_i]

7. We want someone who can reach across the aisle

with a pair of brass knuckles.

[GeorgeGist]

8. +1

[ZX86]

9. Yeah right.....

When I vote for a liberal Democrat what I really want is Republican lite.

[BeyondGeography]

10. Fast Eddie thinks this is helpful

[brooklynite]

11. An opposing viewpoint you don't want to hear...

Pennsylvania is a Democratic State. It has voted for every Democratic Presidential candidate since 1992.

It is NOT a progressive State. Its voters have voted for Santorum in the past and for Toomey and Corbett in 2010.

Governor Rendell was one of the most popular Democratic Governors of Pennsylvania. He is also one of the most politically savvy. Doesn't mean that he doesn't support positions dear to most progressives, but he's also smart enough to know how to get elected and how to govern in a mixed liberal/conservative electorate.

You're entitled to disparage him, and to advocate for more progressive alternatives, but remember that a progressive who doesn't get elected can't implement progressive policies and running moderates out of the Party hasn't been the most successful of policies for the Republicans.

We now return you to your outrage.....

[NuclearDem]

17. Ed Rendell is a member of Fix the Debt, which advocates cutting SS and other welfare programs

If that's the kind of "moderate" you're demanding we tolerate, then fuck that.

[BeyondGeography]

18. He's a state pol with zero insights nationally

Every time a Democrat takes a stand he's hand-wringing. Think back to the summer of 2012 when he wanted Obama and Reid to stop picking on Bain and Romney. He's to be ignored.

[Egalitarian Thug]

20. Philadelphia and Pittsburgh separated by Missouri. A long-time bastion of parasites

prospering from the labor of "them".

The parasite class keeps all of the money, pays no taxes, and does none of the work. The middle class pays all of the taxes and does most of the work, And the poor are kept to scare the shit out of the middle class to keep them going to those jobs.

[ZX86]

27. Wishy Washy Milquetoast Two Faced Spineless Toadies

with no vision are useless and obstruct progress and prolong suffering. Nobody erects statues or are written up in history books for being a groveling butt kisser to oligarchs and their goon squad of small time hustlers, narcissists, and sociopaths. Being popular in Santorum Land is nothing to crow about. Supporting positions dear to most progressives before pissing your pants and running away is no benefit. He needs to lead, follow, or get out of the way.

[Wilms]

34. Not going too well, is it?

[brooklynite]

35. Depends on your point of view...

...whether I've convinced people here or not, Rendell is still a respected political figure, and if Hillary chooses to run, millions of Democrats will vote for her. Works for me.

[Enthusiast]

45. People just don't know the truth about Rendell yet.

If they did he would no longer be a respected political figure.

Hopefully rank and file Democrats will learn the truth about Hillary too, before it is too late and she becomes the party's nominee for president.

[RandiFan1290]

41. Just like with Obama

The wealthy will win either way. They knew he would make the Bush tax cuts permanent and continue the corporate welfare.

[rhett o rick]

38. Yes settle for less because that's all we deserve. nm

[Capt. Obvious]

48. Santorum was a lunch bucket retail politician

We think of him as that religious nutjob but he was still able to get reelected once in a Democratic state based on his shoe leather and constituent politics.

He caught a wave into the Senate and he caught another wave out.

[Cali_Democrat]

50. LOL. nt

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

61. I understand that point of view, but Ed Rendell has been wrong about Obama almost all of the time.

He thinks he knows what Obama ought to do and was trying to tell him how to run his campaign. Note to Ed: If you were so good at running campaigns, your candidate would have won in 2008. She didn't. I like Hillary. I appreciate how Ed governed in a state like PA, given the political dynamics and the weird ideological makeup. But someone like Ed Rendell is a not a trusted Democrat. He is a slime bucket. He cannot be trusted to be a loyal Democrat, not when he trashes the party and the president--simply because his preferred candidate lost--every chance he gets.

Again, I admire him as a politician and as a statesman, but I neither trust nor like the guy. I think he's slime and he's not a team player. He is not someone that I would want to have as a spokesman on my team. He'll stab my black ass in the back each time. No, thank you! I'll take my chances.

[Ikonoklast]

64. What national office has Rendell held through winning an election?

His influence only extends to the Republican Turd Way fifth columnists who cheer him on.



Rendell did a shit job as governor, he handed the state to the Republicans who now control it.

[solarhydrocan]

12. It's more like a reach around...for some

[Aerows]

13. You can't cross the aisle with Republicans

unless you have an (R) behind your name, and even then, the nutjob tea party idiots will make that difficult. Does anyone think anyone even remotely connected to the Democratic party can cross the aisle? They think Boehner and McConnell aren't conservative enough. I'm pretty sure Attila the Hun would not be conservative enough for several of them.

[msongs]

15. we've had that the past 5 yrs and look where we've gotten nt

[Segami]

16. Ed Rendell Supported Alito Nomination

Former DNC Chairman, Governor Ed Rendell [D-PA]: “I Believe He’s A Qualified Judge. He Sits On The Third Circuit Court Of Appeals In Philadelphia. I Don’t Know If You Know This … My Wife Is A Third Circuit Court Judge.”


Fox News’ Bill Hemmer: “I’m Aware Of That, And Your History In Philadelphia Should Give You Pretty Good Knowledge Of Him.”


Rendell: “Right. She Has A High Opinion Of His Integrity And His Academic Standards. She Disagrees With Him On A Number Of Cases And Agrees With Him On Some. I Disagree With A Lot Of His Positions On Cases, But I Think The Tests Should Always Be One Party Wins The Election. As Long As The Supreme Court Justice Is Appointed Who Has High Academic Qualifications, Significant Integrity And Judge Alito Certainly Does, We Should Confirm Him Regardless Of Our Disagreement On The Way He May Interpret One Aspect Of The Law. I Think We’ve Fallen Into Such Partisanship In D.C., Not Just In This But In So Many Things, That It’s In Some Way Ways Tearing The Country Apart.”


Hemmer: “How Do You Think Your Democratic Colleagues Did On This Committee During This Process? Were You Proud Of Them?”


Rendell: “ Wasn’t Pleased. Certainly Some Did Well But Some Didn’t. I Wasn’t Pleased At The Nitpicking. I Think We Need To Go Back To The Days [When] One Party Wins. No One Fought Harder For John Kerry Than I Did … But [President Bush] Won The Election, And As Long As They Give Us Qualified Candidates … Sam Alito, Unanimously Recommended By The American Bar Association, A Qualified Judge.”


At least we now know that Ed Rendell is a DINO (D.emocrat I.n N.ame O.nly) and should be held in suspicion from this day forward.


https://fromtheleft.wordpress.com/2006/01/26/with-friends-like-this-ed-rendell-supports-alito-nomination/

[jsr]

24. +1

[Whisp]

19. Rendell is a sleeze.

fuck him and whatever he thinks. and he can take that to his masters too.

[octoberlib]

21. Ed "fix the debt" Rendell is the number one reason I hope ANYONE but Hillary gets the

nomination in 2016. Fucking slimeball.


http://flipthedebt.org/

[Bettie]

23. Like Obama, she can try to reach across the aisle

But she'll get her hand bit off just like him.

For me, she's still way too beholden to corporate interests, but better than anyone the other side might field.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

25. Does not wanting hillary make one Un-American?

My country is the world, and my religion is to do good. Thomas Paine

[hrmjustin]

28. Not at all.Nor vice versa.

[SamKnause]

26. Across the aisle

When one side of the aisle is insane, I do not want the president reaching across the aisle, or participating in bipartisanship.

I believe in science, biology, economics, math, facts, data, charts, grafts, etc.; across the aisle not so much.

Hillary is dishonest.
Hillary is a hypocrite.
Hillary is a warmonger.
Hillary is a TPP pusher and promoter.
Hillary has a problem with math; that was proven in the 2008 debates about raising taxes.


She would camp across the aisle because she agrees with the majority of the insane.

The first female president of the United States should not be Hillary.

[ZX86]

31. Not about Hilliary but....

what you say about Hilliary is true with the exception she agrees with the majority of the insane. Her ambition exceeds her good sense. She wants to be President. Having said that the SCOTUS appointments are way too important and I trust her implicitly. Once President her ambition will focus on her legacy. She won't fuck that up. Say what you will about her (and believe you me I do often) she's not stupid.

[hrmjustin]

29. I still like her.

[Phlem]

30. Wish I could rec this more than the one time.

-p

[NuclearDem]

32. Translation: "I want SS cut and my taxes kept low

and I think Hillary will do that."

[theHandpuppet]

33. Seems to me...

We already have too many Dems willing to lay down in the aisle and have the repukes walk all over them. Enough!!!!!!!!!!

[1StrongBlackMan]

36. Actually ...

a majority of the electorate DOES want a working government (i.e., led by someone that can/will reach across the aisle).

[KentuckyWoman]

37. Edward dear. It's the reachee not the reacher.

A body can reach across the aisle till doomsday it won't do diddly.

[winter is coming]

39. Reach across the aisle? I don't care if she does the Hokey Pokey; I don't want her. n/t

[WinkyDink]

44. Elected Republicans don't so reach; they all have teeny T. Rex arm-lengths.

[polichick]

46. Rendell and Clinton, a clear picture of Third Way "Dems" - no thanks.

[ecstatic]

47. She will be treated the same way President Obama

is. The gender, intelligence, independence, and last name thing will make the rethugs unable to control themselves, once again.

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

60. I agree, but not as bad as President Obama. Rethugs hate blacks much more than they hate white women

Sorry, but that's the truth. Notice that they pretended to love Bill and Hillary during the 2008 primaries. They still pretend to love Hillary now...until they think she's going to announce. They still hate her, but they will never hate her or her husband as much as they absolutely despise this black man. Never.

[FiveGoodMen]

49. Not unless they're wielding a mace

[JustAnotherGen]

51. Say what?

[Liberal_Stalwart71]

52. Rendell the asshole. He has been relentless in his attacks on Obama ever since the 2008 primaries.

He is invited on all the Sunday morning talk shows as the representative for the Democrats. Why? Because he can be trusted to bash Obama every chance he gets. He and Harold Ford, Jr.

Can't stand either one of them!!

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

53. Which way will she be crawling..er..reaching?

[deminks]

54. Is that what you did, Eddie? nt

[LanternWaste]

55. I'm not sure when it happened, but somewhere along the way, "I want.." became confused with...

I'm not sure when it happened, but somewhere along the way, "I want.." became confused with "American wants..."

[BobUp]

57. I'd like to reach across the aisle,

with a Muhammad Ali rope a dope.

[sabrina 1]

59. Did Rendell ever consider the idea of Republicans reaching across the aisle?

I guess he so wants to please them he's willing to reach deeper and deeper into the cess pit on the other side of the aisle.

Clearly these people are delusional and far from qualified to speak for the American people as his comment shows beyond any doubt. Maybe he should start reading his email or answer his phone, other than searching through for messages from their corporate donors.

[pampango]

62. Aside from Rendell and Hillary, polls show that people (other than tea partiers) support compromise.

http://www.people-press.org/2013/01/17/section-2-views-of-congress-and-the-parties/

The most resistant to compromise were conservative republicans and those who agree with the tea party. The most open to compromise were liberal Democrats and 'lean Democratic' independents.

Liberal Democrats were also more open to compromise than conservative Democrats which seems strange on the face of it. You would think that conservative Democrats would be more willing to compromise. In terms of policy beliefs they are closer to their 'conservative' buddies in the republican party.

Liberal Democrats must be more open to compromise for reasons other than policy positions since they are farther from republican policy choices than anyone else. Their willingness to compromise must be due to the fact that they are more open and tolerant of opposing views which is what you might expect from a group that values diversity and does not expect everyone to agree with them.

[Wolf Frankula]

63. I would Reach Across the Aisle

and swat the rethugs with a baseball bat.

Wolf