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msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 07:14 PM Jan 2014

I think I found the woman who died because of Christie's bridge closure.

91, died September 9 in Fort Lee?

Oh man...Governor....if I have the right woman, you just lost the Tony Soprano vote. My family's Sicilian....this will resonate in NYC/NJ.

Here's the story on the bridge closure...and EMS delays


http://www.northjersey.com/fortlee/GWB_lane_closures_delayed_EMS_response_in_Fort_Lee.html?mobile=1&ic=1&iphone=1


Edited to add...I haven't posted the name because I'm not 100 percent certain, and because the family hasn't come out publicly. But...I think I'm right.

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I think I found the woman who died because of Christie's bridge closure. (Original Post) msanthrope Jan 2014 OP
Depending on the circumstances ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2014 #1
If I was that family, I'd talk to a lawyer. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #2
BIG TIME! Should be worth millions and an impeachment! B Calm Jan 2014 #48
The brain starts to die after 3-4 minutes without oxygen. A slight delay could mean wonders. n/t TheBlackAdder Jan 2014 #51
Being discussed on Rev Al now malaise Jan 2014 #3
Link? riqster Jan 2014 #4
Updated my OP. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #7
Thanks. Holy fucking fuck... riqster Jan 2014 #14
No shit. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #16
I had not heard of this... KansDem Jan 2014 #5
I updated my OP to include the link to the EMS delays..... msanthrope Jan 2014 #6
Thanks! KansDem Jan 2014 #19
This is why we need freaking adults in positions of power. LisaLynne Jan 2014 #8
+1 area51 Jan 2014 #55
Great catch! Thanks! nt pnwmom Jan 2014 #9
I don't want to post the name, since the family hasn't come out publicly..but msanthrope Jan 2014 #10
Ah, yes. I hope they sue. nt pnwmom Jan 2014 #13
I would. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #15
Good research. Sienna86 Jan 2014 #11
Easy. Anyone with the google. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #12
Gov. Blowhard, you have a problem. n/t ProSense Jan 2014 #17
Yeah...I'm waiting for some more reporting on this....but I think Mr. Christie msanthrope Jan 2014 #18
Christie Lied, People Died...knr joeybee12 Jan 2014 #20
This is now being reported by Mediaite. nt sufrommich Jan 2014 #21
Did they post the name??? I won't until either the family or a reputable news source does. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #22
No,they're just calling her a 91 year old woman.nt sufrommich Jan 2014 #23
I hope someone speaks to the family soon. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #40
This is a tragedy for this woman and her loved ones and all the medical services that were delayed Cha Jan 2014 #24
Petty acts..with big consequences. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #26
Isn't that horrible how Christie and his reptile brain never thought something like this could happe Whisp Jan 2014 #33
Zactly what I've been thinking, Whisp.. The Cha Jan 2014 #34
All a republican ever thinks of is himself. Hubert Flottz Jan 2014 #47
Ruh, roh. MsPithy Jan 2014 #25
What a stupid, childish thing to do this was... First Speaker Jan 2014 #27
The non-mobile version has a map bananas Jan 2014 #28
Its on Huffington Post now,still no name but sufrommich Jan 2014 #29
K & R !!! WillyT Jan 2014 #30
A first, eh??? msanthrope Jan 2014 #35
I Calls 'Em As I Sees 'Em... WillyT Jan 2014 #36
Fair enough. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #41
Christie now has blood on his hands! nt sheshe2 Jan 2014 #31
Wow, even foxy news website has it as its top story n/t tom_kelly Jan 2014 #32
Is this what Americans can expect Shankapotomus Jan 2014 #37
Christie Kremed! nt valerief Jan 2014 #38
You should copyright that! nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #39
Kick for morning crowd. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #42
Excellent find! randome Jan 2014 #43
Less than 5 minutes on google...two cities. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #44
God help that asshole Christie IF that woman's family. . . DinahMoeHum Jan 2014 #45
Murdering pricks! Hubert Flottz Jan 2014 #46
The conduct is fitting of a loose cannon. Political retribution in the format they decided is Jefferson23 Jan 2014 #49
They're naming her now on CNN, too...family made a statement... countryjake Jan 2014 #50
Yep...that's who I had. nt msanthrope Jan 2014 #52
Did you know Port Authority cops who were fending off angry commuters... countryjake Jan 2014 #53
Lawsuit(s) in 3 - 2 - 1 ffr Jan 2014 #54
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
1. Depending on the circumstances ...
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 07:18 PM
Jan 2014

I see a wrongful death action in the near future.

I wonder how Christie will balance his Presidential campaign schedule with dispositions?

KansDem

(28,498 posts)
5. I had not heard of this...
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 07:23 PM
Jan 2014

I read about the delayed search for the 4-year-old, but don't know about the 91-year-old.

Is there a link to the news article?

Thanks...

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
10. I don't want to post the name, since the family hasn't come out publicly..but
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 07:27 PM
Jan 2014

she's not hard to find. Two cities......

 

msanthrope

(37,549 posts)
18. Yeah...I'm waiting for some more reporting on this....but I think Mr. Christie
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 07:53 PM
Jan 2014

is in a bit of hot water.

Cha

(297,180 posts)
24. This is a tragedy for this woman and her loved ones and all the medical services that were delayed
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 08:12 PM
Jan 2014

due to deliberate closing of the GWB and brings light on the endangering recklessness of the act.

"Emergency responders also were late in getting to a third medical emergency that first morning of the lane closures. It took Favia nearly an hour to arrive at a building where a person was experiencing chest pains “due to standstill traffic on Route 46 East. The Mutual Aid ambulance coming from Palisades Park and paramedics coming out of Leonia were also delayed due to the excessive traffic,” he wrote."

I can imagine how pissed these hard working EMT workers are.. and everyone affected by the revenge closing.

thanks msanthrope

 

Whisp

(24,096 posts)
33. Isn't that horrible how Christie and his reptile brain never thought something like this could happe
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 09:15 PM
Jan 2014

happen?

Or maybe he did but thought he'd never get caught. Which is worse?

This is an unbelievable story - holy blankety blanks. What an evil man!

People have to realize that even though they may not agree with everything the President does, HE WOULD NEVER IN A MILLION YEARS DO SOMETHING LIKE THIS!

I'm just floored. oboy.

Cha

(297,180 posts)
34. Zactly what I've been thinking, Whisp.. The
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 09:21 PM
Jan 2014

Height of Stupidity that it would take to think this couldn't really hurt people and that it wouldn't blow up in their evil plotting faces.

That Bridget Anne Kelly, Deputy Chief of Christie's Staff, is an especially demonic piece of work.

MsPithy

(809 posts)
25. Ruh, roh.
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 08:33 PM
Jan 2014

The jail time for anyone found guilty of a crime for this incident just went from the minimum security, "country club," to THE BIG HOUSE!

First Speaker

(4,858 posts)
27. What a stupid, childish thing to do this was...
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 08:38 PM
Jan 2014

...my God. But appropriate, for a party with a long and dishonorable history of ratfucking. That poor old lady...

bananas

(27,509 posts)
28. The non-mobile version has a map
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 08:49 PM
Jan 2014

It has an embedded google map with an overlay showing how the traffic flow was changed:

http://www.northjersey.com/fortlee/GWB_lane_closures_delayed_EMS_response_in_Fort_Lee.html

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From Sept. 9-12, 2013, local access to the George Washington Bridge toll plaza from Fort Lee was changed from three lanes to one lane. This caused extensive traffic problems in Fort Lee that lasted until noon. How the traffic flow was changed:

<embedded google map showing how the traffic flow was changed>

sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
29. Its on Huffington Post now,still no name but
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 08:49 PM
Jan 2014

they're reporting that 4 emergency vehicles were delayed because of the bridge lane closings. This story is going to explode.

Shankapotomus

(4,840 posts)
37. Is this what Americans can expect
Wed Jan 8, 2014, 09:34 PM
Jan 2014

from a Christie Presidency? Political payback on the states and cities that don't support your election? People dying needlessly?

This woman is dead because of the political culture Christie brought with him into office.

A person is dead because of political shenanigans. Christie should step down.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
43. Excellent find!
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 11:45 AM
Jan 2014

[hr][font color="blue"][center]Treat your body like a machine. Your mind like a castle.[/center][/font][hr]

Jefferson23

(30,099 posts)
49. The conduct is fitting of a loose cannon. Political retribution in the format they decided is
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 04:23 PM
Jan 2014

beyond what most civilized people would be able to dismiss..even the most cynical regarding
politics. Christie did not even need to play heavy handed to win, the only demographic he
lost was the youth vote.

This venture which involves the closing of lanes on the GWB is also displaced as it would not
and did not impact the mayor, personally. It was implemented it appears at the very citizens who they
believed were his opponents voters in the race.

Altering the flow of traffic to inflict harm, and harm befell one woman, fatally. The disregard
is astonishing....what else is he capable of doing? Those who voted for him need to come to
terms with that reality.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
50. They're naming her now on CNN, too...family made a statement...
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 05:34 PM
Jan 2014

Florence Genova died the day Christie and his cronies went after the mayor of Ft. Lee.

Woman Says Lane Closings Were Not to Blame for Her Mother’s Death

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/01/10/nyregion/woman-says-lane-closings-were-not-to-blame-for-her-mothers-death.html?_r=0

The daughter of a 91-year-old woman from Fort Lee, N.J., who died on the day of a major traffic jam precipitated by top aides to Gov. Chris Christie said on Thursday that she did not believe the inability of an ambulance to reach her mother’s house was a factor in her death.

“I honestly believe it was just her time,” said Vilma Oleri, whose mother, Florence Genova, died on the morning of Sept. 9, the first day that the closing of local lanes leading to the George Washington Bridge set off the snarls.

countryjake

(8,554 posts)
53. Did you know Port Authority cops who were fending off angry commuters...
Thu Jan 9, 2014, 06:33 PM
Jan 2014

during those four days, actually were saying that it was Mayor Sokolich's decision to close the lanes?

See this pdf. of the Mayor's letter to Baroni on Sept. 12:

http://online.wsj.com/public/resources/documents/nygwb1017.pdf

ffr

(22,669 posts)
54. Lawsuit(s) in 3 - 2 - 1
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 02:33 AM
Jan 2014

Go!

If there's a relationship that can be established between someone losing their life due this act of retribution, I don't think it's a stretch of the imagination to see those people being held personally accountable for their actions and the state for empowering their seemingly petty crimes.

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