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Mass

(27,315 posts)
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 10:12 AM Jan 2014

Job report in perspective and why it is important to not react to one month numbers

By now, we should be used to job reports numbers that are contradictory. This month is not different as other have already posted: lousy job numbers, better unemployment numbers.

As a principle, given that unemployment ignores people like me, who have been unemployed for a long time and do not believe they will find a job and try to find different sources of income (all legal), or even people who are very much underemployed, I find the job numbers more important (even if they are not perfect either, not giving information about what type of jobs were created). This said, this month number should not be given too much importance as an individual number. Let's all take a deep breath and wait to see what January and February give.


http://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2014/01/10/live-from-new-york-its-jobs-friday-8/


January 148,000

February 332,000

March 142,000

April 199,000

May 176,000

June 172,000

July 89,000

August 238,000

September 175,000

October 200,000

November 241,000

December 74,000


But it is also clear this month's numbers are not great.
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Job report in perspective and why it is important to not react to one month numbers (Original Post) Mass Jan 2014 OP
December job totals disappoint ProSense Jan 2014 #1
I think it's a good thing that the numbers are disappointing. Dawgs Jan 2014 #2
So far the markets seem to be shrugging it off. MoonRiver Jan 2014 #3
Always great signs when the stock market is what matters on a progressive blog. Mass Jan 2014 #4
Some of us are counting on our mutual funds to help with retirement. MoonRiver Jan 2014 #5
How is your mutual fund going to be impacted by daily moves. Mass Jan 2014 #7
I was simply making an observation. MoonRiver Jan 2014 #8
More people giving up in despair. woo me with science Jan 2014 #6

ProSense

(116,464 posts)
1. December job totals disappoint
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 10:19 AM
Jan 2014
December job totals disappoint

By Steve Benen



When it comes to U.S. job creation, the latter half of 2013 looked quite good, and there was ample reason to believe the year would end on a high note, giving the economy some momentum going into the new year.

That didn’t happen, at least according to initial estimates. The new report from Bureau of Labor Statistics shows the U.S. economy added only 74,000 jobs in December, far below economists’ expectations. The unemployment rate dropped to 6.7% – its lowest point since October 2008 – but that appears largely to be the result of people dropping out of the workforce.

Indeed, though the drop in the jobless rate may appear encouraging, this is a pretty dreadful jobs report – 74,000 jobs for December is the lowest monthly total in two and a half years...Indeed, the revisions from October and November showed an additional 38,000 U.S. jobs that had been previously unreported.

That said, December’s awful numbers are a reminder – to policy makers, to the Fed, to the public – that a robust economic recovery has still not arrived. For congressional Republicans to undermine the economy on purpose by cutting off extended unemployment benefits makes it that much more difficult for the job market to return to where it needs to be.

All told, so far in calendar year 2013, the economy added 2.18 million jobs, while the private sector alone created 2.21 million jobs.

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http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/december-job-totals-disappoint
 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
2. I think it's a good thing that the numbers are disappointing.
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 10:32 AM
Jan 2014

If nothing else, it may put focus where it needs to be; which is obviously on jobs and the economy.

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
5. Some of us are counting on our mutual funds to help with retirement.
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 10:47 AM
Jan 2014

Why is that bad or contrary to liberal values?

Mass

(27,315 posts)
7. How is your mutual fund going to be impacted by daily moves.
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 10:49 AM
Jan 2014

Trends is what matters (and right now, it is expected the stock market will fall, as it has increased way too much).

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
8. I was simply making an observation.
Fri Jan 10, 2014, 10:59 AM
Jan 2014

Daily fluctuations can be indicative of long term trends. I think you are being just a little over-sensitive.

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